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post 1625526763 12-14-2020, 02:53 PM
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Alan Roberts goes on INSANE rant against fitness industry "nobody should be bulking"

Inbetween all the cursing and shouting he roasts Greg Doucette and says nobody should be bulking or trying to hit a 500lb squat in 2020 because Covid will kill you if your body fat % is too high

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post 1625527413 12-14-2020, 03:00 PM
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I don't like that guy anymore. He seems to go after Greg in a nasty way and I think it's all because he's friends with Jeff and all that fake weights drama that went on YouTube.
post 1625527753 12-14-2020, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted By Cass40
I don't like that guy anymore. He seems to go after Greg in a nasty way and I think it's all because he's friends with Jeff and all that fake weights drama that went on YouTube.
I think you are this chicks husband posting under her identity.
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post 1625528023 12-14-2020, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted By Evil_D
I think you are this chicks husband posting under her identity.
I swear am not Mike.
post 1625528243 12-14-2020, 03:07 PM
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didnt want but 90% of people who bulk shouldnt be bulking

most people will gain more muscle between 8-12% bf and switch to mostly fat gain after 12% making bulking pointless and counterproductive
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post 1625528283 12-14-2020, 03:08 PM
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post 1625529003 12-14-2020, 03:16 PM
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I don't know this dude, but I wouldn't blame fitness youtubers on fitness not actually meaning fitness.
Fitness in that context means lifting and it already did before youtube being around not being fit. That's just what it is.
post 1625529333 12-14-2020, 03:21 PM
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Bloat or die

post 1625530323 12-14-2020, 03:32 PM
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do we neg op?

if i get 3 reps ill neg op
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post 1625531253 12-14-2020, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
didnt want but 90% of people who bulk shouldnt be bulking

most people will gain more muscle between 8-12% bf and switch to mostly fat gain after 12% making bulking pointless and counterproductive
so whats the strategy? Slightly above maintenance LONG "lean" bulking?
post 1625531563 12-14-2020, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted By EnochsProphecy
I used to like greg before he started doing all these useless natty or not and becoming an online persona. He started to get traction when he spoke about sarms. Decent info, sometimes wrong, sometimes right. Then he put out unnecessary drama videos and started changing his voice for whatever reason and became annoying to me. He then went after stephanie buttermore for no reason other than views.

A lot of people in the industry don't like him, but pretend to because they know his toxic fanbase will attack them if they say anything negative about greg. Allegedly there are people now doxing him and harassing his gf and family. There are legit psychopaths in the fitness industry. Guy might be digging his own grave.
greg has become a hyuge ******* but he's a youtub celeri now making good money during covid so i don't think he cares.

don't mind if he gets harassed. he's pathetic. he cudn't even say that simeon panda isn't natty.
post 1625531803 12-14-2020, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted By drvillain
so whats the strategy? Slightly above maintenance LONG "lean" bulking?
increasing your metabolism over time and focusing more on your workouts and protein intake than "calories" , macronutrient timing, and carb/calorie cycling.

Insulin sensitivity is one of the second biggest drivers of muscle growth and ultimately the regulator of if you are gaining fat or muscle with the calories you consume.
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post 1625532413 12-14-2020, 03:54 PM
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He looks like a ballsack
post 1625532873 12-14-2020, 03:57 PM
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As a now 30+ male I regret those college bulks srs. If you’re natty all that eating just gets you fat. Agree bulking is dumb.
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post 1625532883 12-14-2020, 03:57 PM
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Can't believe anyone still gives a fuk about any of this chit, let alone follow people on IG/youtube.

- Eat moderately and healthy most of the time to offset weekend binges on pizza, wings, and other tasty schit.

- Go to the gym 3 times a week and bust your ass for 30 minutes for maintenance. Go 4 to 5 days for any specific goal you're trying to reach.

/fitnessindustry.



Alas... *******s like this exist because people lack basic discipline and drive. Mind nuked at how mentally weak the general public is.
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post 1625533323 12-14-2020, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted By W1LLW
Can't believe anyone still gives a fuk about any of this chit, let alone follow people on IG/youtube.

- Eat moderately and healthy most of the time to offset weekend binges on pizza, wings, and other tasty schit.

- Go to the gym 3 times a week and bust your ass for 30 minutes for maintenance. Go 4 to 5 days for any specific goal you're trying to reach.

/fitnessindustry.

Alas... *******s like this exist because people lack basic discipline and drive. Mind nuked at how mentally weak the general public is.
people with less than stellar genetics (i.e. not black) and who grew up fat and/or unathletic need guidance.

just going to the gym for 30 minutes 3 times a week and eating "healthy" doesn't work for most normies.
post 1625533503 12-14-2020, 04:03 PM
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He makes a very valid point. Most of the "fitness " channels are merely clickbait and merch selling pages.
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post 1625533613 12-14-2020, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted By Extrabass
lol at macro timing

Lol at all this negligible bullchit



Typical ster0id meathead cope. You *******s over think everything. A natty lifter that goes to the gym 3 or 4 days a week doesn't need to consider these variables and they won't make any significant difference. Just get enough protein, progressive overload, sufficient calories, rest and that's it.
its proven fact that muscle protein synthesis is enhanced at specific times, and muscle glycogen replenishment is also VERY enhanced post workout.

Eating a carb heavy meal post workout VS 30 min before bed 8 hours after working out yields diferent results.

Eating a high fat meal pre workout as opposed to before going to sleep also yields different results.

Eating high fat with high GI carbs also yields different results.

this "negligible bullchit" is why some people gain fat more than muscle when bulking and others can eat 6000 calories a day and not gain fat.
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post 1625533803 12-14-2020, 04:06 PM
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I don't think anybody should be following this '500 calorie surplus per day' bulking nonsense. Not unless you have supreme genetics. The rest of us will just gain body fat.
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Originally Posted By PickyRonting
people with less than stellar genetics (i.e. not black) and who grew up fat and/or unathletic need guidance.
Cope.

Consistency beats out any specialized bullschit program you'll ever download or subscribe to 10 times out of 10. I've been going to the gym for over 15 years. For the vast majority of that time I was just doing bullschit bro-splits.

Specialized periodization/westside for skinny bastards type training only makes a difference if you're following them for 8months+. Most people cant even commit to a 6 month gym contract.
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post 1625534303 12-14-2020, 04:13 PM
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you have to be lean af for bulking to matter.

nearly everyone bulking is just fat fuks being fat fuks.
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post 1625534533 12-14-2020, 04:15 PM
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Who tf is Alan Roberts. Not gonna take advice from some nobody
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too long didn't watch and have no idea who that fukker is

but he is right most people can't bulk properly for sht.
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Not watched the vid but I generally agree with Alan.

you have to understand that his audience isn't BB.com or any group trying to look shredded. He is (at least within the last year and thne some) now focused more on general weight-loss/healthy habit building. think he bulked up to like 250lbs to get strong etc, then leaned out and realised that it was fcking pointless. His joints felt like schit, he felt like schit, he compared to now looked like schit etc.

The vast, vast,vastmajority of people in the west nowadays are fat. As in overweight, going on obese. If you can look down and your gut doesn't hang over your belt, let alone you can see your six pack, you're in a growing minority of people. If your gut reaction is "but I'm already lean, my gains" then congrats, you can ignore his message because it doesn't apply to you.
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Originally Posted By Extrabass
This is BS cope.

Calories in, calories out. That's literally the fundamental basis of weight gain, weight loss or maintenance. Stop overthinking it

Just hit your macros, and push for progressive overload. Like literally that's it. Or if you wanna bring up a lagging body part increase frequency. There's nothing else to consider
Every fukking loser who talks about cals in/cals out for WEIGHT LOSS... Key word WEIGHT (not FAT LOSS), is a fukkin idiot and doesn't know chit and hasn't trained 100+ avg natty ppl.
Same with .77-1g/per lbs protein *******s.
But hey continue to belief what you WANT to belief (because its easier - and you suck) and then go google things to complete your confirmation bias. Your source will be some idiot who wants to appeal to everyone.

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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
didnt want but 90% of people who bulk shouldnt be bulking

most people will gain more muscle between 8-12% bf and switch to mostly fat gain after 12% making bulking pointless and counterproductive
Good luck with your strength goals as a natty remaining 8-12% all year round.
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Didn't watch vid and don't know who Alan Roberts is, but he is correct about the bulking meme. Enhanced bbers told everyone to bulk and cut like they do, but nattys are missing the key ingredient: pharmaceuticals.

If you are natty just starting out, eat maintenance calories and lift with progressive overload in mind. Youwillgain muscle. No need to be chugging gallons of milk, putting on fat for no reason
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Originally Posted By Extrabass
He's 5'9 according to Google. You'd literally have to be retarded to bulk to 250lbs

Some of you guys are hopeless
Interesting lack of a reponse to anything I posted there, red.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
its proven fact that muscle protein synthesis is enhanced at specific times, and muscle glycogen replenishment is also VERY enhanced post workout.

Eating a carb heavy meal post workout VS 30 min before bed 8 hours after working out yields diferent results.

Eating a high fat meal pre workout as opposed to before going to sleep also yields different results.

Eating high fat with high GI carbs also yields different results.

this "negligible bullchit" is why some people gain fat more than muscle when bulking and others can eat 6000 calories a day and not gain fat.
Do you have any current proper studies. The anabrolic window was fairly debunked last I looked into it
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Originally Posted By Extrabass
lol at macro timing

Lol at all this negligible bullchit



Typical ster0id meathead cope. You *******s over think everything. A natty lifter that goes to the gym 3 or 4 days a week doesn't need to consider these variables and they won't make any significant difference. Just get enough protein, progressive overload, sufficient calories, rest and that's it.
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