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post 1640405393 06-08-2021, 01:07 AM
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The more that times goes on the more i realise that helping others

and caring for them is actually doing them a disservice, predominately because you act an an enabler to the specific behaviour which is holding them back.

I used to be the mot negative black-piller known to man kind, did the whole zyzz party dance scene and ruined my life completely because i was a total narcissist.

Literally spend 3 years alone and miserable because i can't even hang out with anybody due to so much negatively, except other wierdos like conspiracy theorists, etc.

Then had a series of ego shattering experiences that showed me why my life was like that and how the world works, and i finally became free and happy.

There was nothing anybody could do at that point to stop my downward spiral, and even if i died it was inevitable.

So now i don't really feel sorry for anybody whose negative and depressed, i just try and avoid them.

Most of the time they just make an excuse for why their life is sh*t and then do f*cked up stuff to you out of jealously, because they can't deal with their own emotions like adults.
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post 1640405543 06-08-2021, 01:13 AM
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Just to give you an example, i wasted hours researching and pondering the fact that life is nothing more than a biochemical reaction that was predetermined from the start to react in accordance to the laws of physics via cause and effect - this stuff is scientifically backed AF.

The thing is though, one tiny thign didn't make sense - DNA replication.

There had to be more to life than what meets the eye, a great intelligence, a divine spark.

Somehow, i managed to discover that divine spark, and my life has been getting better and better since then.

It's true, life is predetermined, but by understanding how karma (or cause and effect) works, you can alter it, through the divine spark within - look at your own motivations and what drives you and you can basically know where you're headed, like when you go to the gym for any other reason than to make your self happy you're f*cking your self long term, i.e. going gym and taking supps to get back at that ex who dumped you
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post 1640406453 06-08-2021, 01:58 AM
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Nothing wrong with helping people, OP, as long as they use that help as a springboard to something better. Sometimes a little relief can make all the difference to people making a positive next step without falling back down again. But they have to really want to make a dedicated, positive change, and that comes 100% from within. No motivational pep talk or pressure from the outside can do that.

If they just want to use your help as temporary, parasitic fuel (like giving a crackhead $100 so that they can get high, and be back where they started the next day, none the wiser), then yeah, its better to just leave those people alone and not worry about them.
post 1640406693 06-08-2021, 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted By WrathOfPecan⏩
Nothing wrong with helping people, OP, as long as they use that help as a springboard to something better. Sometimes a little relief can make all the difference to people making a positive next step without falling back down again. But they have to really want to make a dedicated, positive change, and that comes 100% from within. No motivational pep talk or pressure from the outside can do that.

If they just want to use your help as temporary, parasitic fuel (like giving a crackhead $100 so that they can get high, and be back where they started the next day, none the wiser), then yeah, its better to just leave those people alone and not worry about them.
Dude i'm obviously not talking about helping your friend when things don't work out and he's feeling down about his breakup, i'm talking about giving way too much attention to some person who is constantly doing the same crap over and over, and expecting a different result, primarily because they have some sort of internal issue that stops them being stable and doing normal stuff like working and paying rent.

Like when i was younger i was already negative, and then i went onto the misc and learned the 'fact' that all women care about was looks, money, and status, and will always cheat, so i ended up in this self-affirming cycle of making money, looking good, and thinking chicks are cheating in me so i will never date them - thing is looks money and status does get you girls who cheat, and you ignore the ones who are actually down to earth(ish) and nice.

Ruined my life and spiralled out of control, and ended up more depressed than ever, and only started living normally recently, with 2021 being my first, 'normal' year in forever.
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post 1640407063 06-08-2021, 02:22 AM
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John 3:16 am I right bro?
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post 1640407193 06-08-2021, 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Just to give you an example, i wasted hours researching and pondering the fact that life is nothing more than a biochemical reaction that was predetermined from the start to react in accordance to the laws of physics via cause and effect - this stuff is scientifically backed AF.

The thing is though, one tiny thign didn't make sense - DNA replication.

There had to be more to life than what meets the eye, a great intelligence, a divine spark.

Somehow, i managed to discover that divine spark, and my life has been getting better and better since then.

It's true, life is predetermined, but by understanding how karma (or cause and effect) works, you can alter it, through the divine spark within - look at your own motivations and what drives you and you can basically know where you're headed, like when you go to the gym for any other reason than to make your self happy you're f*cking your self long term, i.e. going gym and taking supps to get back at that ex who dumped you
Your first paragraph was 100% correct. You just swung the pendulum too far to the other side (when you’ve spoken about consciousness being “one” amongst the entire human species) because it felt good.
post 1640407463 06-08-2021, 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted By II
John 3:16 am I right bro?
Not really, but it is a good quote now that i've read it
Originally Posted By andrew28⏩
Your first paragraph was 100% correct. You just swung the pendulum too far to the other side (when you’ve spoken about consciousness being “one” amongst the entire human species) because it felt good.
I've actually had a mystical experience and became happy ever since, sorta.

2017 - worst ever of my life, depressed with a bleak outlook for my life, last year of uni, graduated though and was happy for 2 weeks.

2018 - pretty bad again but OK, worked a lot and made a decent amount of money and met lots of cool people - always questioning meaning of life and still empty.

2019 was OK, still depressed, but became good, started new job, and all this crazy sh*t happened, spend next 10 months totally zonked out and retarded questioning reality.

2020 was pretty bad at times but also good, especially towards the end.

2021 had been mostly good actually, 9/10 year - don't question to point of life, and things are just working.

It's all about how you feel in the moment really, and then you look back at your life differently depending on how you feel.
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post 1640407503 06-08-2021, 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
I've actually had a mystical experience and became happy ever since.
Was it assisted by a substance?
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post 1640407603 06-08-2021, 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted By II
Was it assisted by a substance?
Nope.

Just happened.
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post 1640407673 06-08-2021, 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Nope.

Just happened.
Tell the story I'll listen, really into spirituality these days

edit: hittin the hay will read in the morning
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Yes I don’t really believe in helping people either.

Limited exception for your parents and your children whom I do believe you have an obligation to help.

But helping other people in your circle or random people is not good imo. Most likely your efforts will be futile or you will just get used by them.
I’ll help somebody else once but that’s it.

If you’re stuck in a hole and reach up, I’ll try to pull you out of that hole but if you’re face first in that sh!t trying to dig it deeper.....yea I’m not gonna jump in that hole to pull you out.
post 1640407953 06-08-2021, 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Yes I don’t really believe in helping people either.

Limited exception for your parents and your children whom I do believe you have an obligation to help.

But helping other people in your circle or random people is not good imo. Most likely your efforts will be futile or you will just get used by them.
Originally Posted By andrew28⏩
I’ll help somebody else once but that’s it.

If you’re stuck in a hole and reach up, I’ll try to pull you out of that hole but if you’re face first in that sh!t trying to dig it deeper.....yea I’m not gonna jump in that hole to pull you out.
Yeah dude it just doesn't work, because the problem is internal... we can't save people, etc.
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My current belief is that the only aspect of life that we can control is our choice to heal our karma or not. I believe the paths that arise from our choice to focus on our own karma are predetermined, but those that don't remedy their karmic lessons will suffer on negative paths.

Everyone is already enlightened, they just need to recognise it.
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It's good to be nice and help people when you can but it's impossible to help anyone make major changes/steps in their lives. People have to want to change and put in the effort. Most will fail
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Originally Posted By Porridgemonster⏩
My current belief is that the only aspect of life that we can control is our choice to heal our karma or not. I believe the paths that arise from our choice to focus on our own karma are predetermined, but those that don't remedy their karmic lessons will suffer on negative paths.

Everyone is already enlightened, they just need to recognise it.
Yeah dude same here, like when somebody triggers you you gotta learn to love and understand them, but still stay away - no need for that hard hitting alpha male BS.

Totally agreed on the already enlightened part, it's jut that the karma and strange beliefs are blocking it.
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It's good to be nice and help people when you can but it's impossible to help anyone make major changes/steps in their lives. People have to want to change and put in the effort. Most will fail
Yeah dude like i'm a prime example.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
You can only help people who both need and want help.
You can bring the horse to the water but you can't make it drink
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I’m a huge hypocrite though when it’s a girl I like.

Trying to save a girl who don’t wanna be saved used to be a problem of mine.
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Originally Posted By andrew28⏩
I’m a huge hypocrite though when it’s a girl I like.

Trying to save a girl who don’t wanna be saved used to be a problem of mine.
Yeah dude, i know what you mean.

Those cute girls with a baby face that just can't seem to get there sh*t together but have a good hear underneath, i have weak spot for those too brah - i have a weak spot for,her.
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Yea I dont have time for bull**** anymore. Friend becomes alcoholic or family members always hassles about money? I’ll make an effort up front but don’t have any issue severing a relationship completely
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Some places have good samaritan laws that require you to help in some form even if indirect.
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