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post 1641022963 06-16-2021, 03:37 PM
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For all of those who are feeling pressured to get the vaccine



Cliffs:

mRNA strands cause cells to produce covid spike protein. They were not supposed to leave the injection site, they were not supposed to enter the bloodstream, and the spike protein itself was supposed to be a harmless signature (antigen) that the immune system could use as a target for future covid infection. All of these are false, and those injected get toxic spike protein all over their body and in their blood, that their own cells are making. They fuked up making the vaccine and pushing it through so badly that people are dying. Not worth the risk whatsoever, especially since bribing the nurse to put your name in the database without injecting would probably not cost that much.
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take it or don't take it can we just move on
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
it's a chitty situation, you could die and/or get complications from the vaccine that are pretty horrific, or you could die and/or get complications from COVID.

Get the vaccine -> immediate possibility of death or complications regardless of age
Get COVID -> first you have to actually contract COVID -> statistics show the chance of death is highest amongst the old with comorbidities + chance of side effects is unknown

might as well rot until they figure this chit out
Imagine being so stupid that you think you can actually die from COVID if you aren't already geriatric and infirm to the point that ANY virus is potentially lethal to you.

Can't believe how stupid people have become. Rational thinking and analytical thinking no longer exist.
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I'm willing to bet the people who warn about the vaccine have no problem using microwaves, cell phones, wifi, take preworkouts/steroids, eat processed crap. All chit that could affect you long-term
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Went to my endocrinologist today to to get my t levels checked.

He asked me if I got the vaccine, said no. He said “Well you should”

Said I wanna wait to make sure it’s safe and there’s no major short or long term side effects.
He said “well if it makes you feel better me and my family got it and we’re doing good”

Ok, well tell that to the CDC as they’re having an emergency hearing on heart inflammation due to vaccine lmao.

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This is what I had mention in another thread. The Spike protein is the issue at hand. Apparently no one else cared to keep up with all the information flowing about the vaccine.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
it's a chitty situation, you could die and/or get complications from the vaccine that are pretty horrific, or you could die and/or get complications from COVID.

Get the vaccine -> immediate possibility of death or complications regardless of age
Get COVID -> first you have to actually contract COVID -> statistics show the chance of death is highest amongst the old with comorbidities + chance of side effects is unknown

might as well rot until they figure this chit out
Ummm… No, if you take care of yourself the way you’re supposed to, you have 0.0000% chance to die or even be very sick from Covid. Or any other cold.
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Originally Posted By Lb54TG
Went to my endocrinologist today to to get my t levels checked.

He asked me if I got the vaccine, said no. He said “Well you should”

Said I wanna wait to make sure it’s safe and there’s no major short or long term side effects.
He said “well if it makes you feel better me and my family got it and we’re doing good”

Ok, well tell that to the CDC as they’re having an emergency hearing on heart inflammation due to vaccine lmao.

Foh
Get a different doctor - yours is a complete moron. And I don't say that because of the stupidity of pushing an unnecessary vaccine on his patients - I say that because he said "Well if it makes you feel better, my family and I got ours, and we're doing fine" the stupidity behind such a statement is too numerous to list, and it coming from an M.D. is even more embarrassing. Oh ok Mr Doctor, because anecdotally you're telling me you and 3 people in your family didn't drop dead, that makes it safe, how about that be the benchmark for all future clinical trials....we inject your family, and see how ya'll do. lol.
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash
take it or don't take it can we just move on
i wish.

but the government has made it: take it or get fuk'd traveling.
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Blank covid vaccine cards are already selling on Ebay. I just grabbed a couple of thousand.
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Originally Posted By yewotm8


Cliffs:

mRNA strands cause cells to produce covid spike protein. They were not supposed to leave the injection site, they were not supposed to enter the bloodstream, and the spike protein itself was supposed to be a harmless signature (antigen) that the immune system could use as a target for future covid infection. All of these are false, and those injected get toxic spike protein all over their body and in their blood, that their own cells are making. They fuked up making the vaccine and pushing it through so badly that people are dying. Not worth the risk whatsoever, especially since bribing the nurse to put your name in the database without injecting would probably not cost that much.
Will listen later cause I like Weinstein, but sounds like some pretty sensationalized claims here. With that said, what about the J&J vaccine, as that doesn't use mRNA. Did they discuss whether there are any reasons not to take that one?
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
did you use your rational thinking to consider the possibility of permanent lung scarring and loss of taste from covid?
The yearly flu that only kills the geriatric and people with multiple co morbidities
And I’d have to actually contract it first

Or

Unproven gene therapy that is revealed to have new previously unknown side effects almost weekly

Yeah tough choice
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Originally Posted By dbluevette
Blank covid vaccine cards are already selling on Ebay. I just grabbed a couple of thousand.
Chances are it'll need to be logged in your medical records in some database though. I doubt they'll accept just the card if you try to fly internationally.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
did you use your rational thinking to consider the possibility of permanent lung scarring and loss of taste from covid?
Did you consider both of those are made up bullchit that covid doesn't cause as proven in multiple animal models?
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Originally Posted By homers54321
I'm willing to bet the people who warn about the vaccine have no problem using microwaves, cell phones, wifi, take preworkouts/steroids, eat processed crap. All chit that could affect you long-term
haven't used a microwave in years, my preworkout is coffee, never used roids, eat 95% organic, R/O water system.

I have to use the wifi and cell phone ( those waves are bad for you too) but you can't function in the 21st century without those.

I can easily function without an experimental gene therapy where the manufacturer is not liable for injuries.
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Originally Posted By mulletwarrior
Will listen later cause I like Weinstein, but sounds like some pretty sensationalized claims here. With that said, what about the J&J vaccine, as that doesn't use mRNA. Did they discuss whether there are any reasons not to take that one?
The J&J still presents the spike protein so some concerns would overlap.

Katya422posted this video about a week agoand provided some good cliffs in the thread.
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Is that when I see protein? Immediately tj my mind comes the question? Whilst talking tj/about Elon misk? Then I think to myself when I donate sperm to starving Ethiopian families right? Will there be some type of misc reward system? Like for every 3 Ethiopian females I get pregnant and pay child support on? Then what you give me a 20% discount on protein powder? Like I honestly don’t even think I’m being unreasonable here or unrealistic with my request. Think of all the great benefits tj come tj the misk and all the good publicity misk can get. Ohh he just provided for three more Ethiopian families right now. Here’s your 20% off muscle milk coupon. And it can be like an advert campaign you know? Like the new version of sally struthers aka bbq misk. Giving all sorts of African families hope for protein discounts. Like? Damn then everyone will love you. And misk will be the heroes that saved the world turning their made up pandemic that they? Aptly put 19 at the cuz misCuck and turn it into? Cowed-19 then the world will rejoice

Okay I’m rambling right now I just thought 20% had a nice ring to it at the time in my head I actually don’t want any tangible anything from you. Rather the opposite you know the deal misk give back. The misk give back

20% think about it
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lol @ trying to discuss medical biology in the misc...bunch of ******* morons can barely get through the day.

Then wathcing a bunch of *******s on youtube shill whatever their beliefs are to get other retarded ****s to parrot whatever they say.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
did you use your rational thinking to consider the possibility of permanent lung scarring and loss of taste from covid?
Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
how about long term side effects? lung damage? loss of taste/smell?
You continue to spout this crap when I already corrected you last night; stop parroting CNN


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Originally Posted By pantiespending
Is that when I see protein? Immediately tj my mind comes the question? Whilst talking tj/about Elon misk? Then I think to myself when I donate sperm to starving Ethiopian families right? Will there be some type of misc reward system? Like for every 3 Ethiopian females I get pregnant and pay child support on? Then what you give me a 20% discount on protein powder? Like I honestly don’t even think I’m being unreasonable here or unrealistic with my request. Think of all the great benefits tj come tj the misk and all the good publicity misk can get. Ohh he just provided for three more Ethiopian families right now. Here’s your 20% off muscle milk coupon. And it can be like an advert campaign you know? Like the new version of sally struthers aka bbq misk. Giving all sorts of African families hope for protein discounts. Like? Damn then everyone will love you. And misk will be the heroes that saved the world turning their made up pandemic that they? Aptly put 19 at the cuz misCuck and turn it into? Cowed-19 then the world will rejoice

Okay I’m rambling right now I just thought 20% had a nice ring to it at the time in my head I actually don’t want any tangible anything from you. Rather the opposite you know the deal misk give back. The misk give back

20% think about it
Did you write this intoxicated?




Isn't the J&J a traditional vaccine? Just use this one if you're required to vaxxx.
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Imagine getting a vaccine for a virus with a 99.97% survival rate

Imagine getting a vaccine for a virus that a fat old man who eats McDonald’s everyday and never sleeps beat in 3 days (Trump)

Imagine getting a vaccine for a virus they tell you is so deadly yet places that largely ignored COVID guidance like Sweden and Florida have no mile long lines outside hospitals, bodies in the street, and life is completely normal if you don’t turn on the TV

If they make the vaccine mandatory to maintain a job, get a drivers license, shop for groceries, I’ll quit my job, drive an electric scooter, and work under the table. So should you.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
I am not talking about covid death, way to avoid the question.

Also, what science based evidence do you have that mRNA technology will change your DNA?mRNA vaccines have been in use for decades
On huuuuuuuuuumans? Sorry boyo, this is the first time on humans - we are all involved in the biggest clinical trial in history.
Originally Posted By ectoBgone
The J&J still presents the spike protein so some concerns would overlap.

Katya422posted this video about a week agoand provided some good cliffs in the thread.
Huh - will have to listen because I am obviously (like most of misc) not even close to an expert, but I always thought the potential concerns were in the way the spike proteins were delivered / manufactured. Sounds like the issue here is that this current attack method doesn't kill the underlying virus, but just kind of rips off the spike proteins and surrounds them w/ membrane so they are harmless. Wouldn't they eventually just die off?
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Originally Posted By yewotm8
mRNA strands cause cells to produce covid spike protein. They were not supposed to leave the injection site, they were not supposed to enter the bloodstream, and the spike protein itself was supposed to be a harmless signature (antigen) that the immune system could use as a target for future covid infection. All of these are false,
That's nice except none of this was ever claimed except maybe for ******** liberals. lol @ mrna not leaving injection site. Who was circulation and why do you think they inject into muscle instead of fat? lmao
spike protein was never harmless and there were a few papers suggesting that the binding of it to ace receptor is what causes long-term issues (at least in rats). As in it induced cell signaling;

so all of this chit you made up is false? who would have thought
Originally Posted By yewotm8
and those injected get toxic spike protein all over their body and in their blood, that their own cells are making. They fuked up making the vaccine and pushing it through so badly that people are dying. Not worth the risk whatsoever, especially since bribing the nurse to put your name in the database without injecting would probably not cost that much.
nobody is injected with spike protein itself. mrna is absorbed by immune cells. nowthosecells do produce it and move it to the surface of the cell but they don't just release it into the wild. They are attached. Immune system figures out that those spikes are not supposed to be there and denatures those proteinz.

Yes, there is IMO potential for some immune cells to actually interact with other cells in your body through the newly produced spike protein as a virus would to induce similar signaling (which is the only damage I see from vaccine and covid itself long-term). But the probability of it being folded and oriented correctly in the first place will be fairly small.


Brb, 350 cells exposed to spike protein on immune cell = RIP. But 350,000 spike proteins all over your body from covid = harmless flu. lmao, just lmao.


Honestly, if you think you WILL get covid at some point, you will walk away a winner with less damage from vaccine spike protein interactions versus 100-fold exposure to same chit from actual virus. If you think you can dodge ever getting infected, stay vax-free IMO.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
I went back to yesterdays' thread, saw your response. Intredasting. You can neg if you want, I'm asking legitimate questions out of curiosity, not trying to push a vaccine. I didn't take it myself. Below is the chain:

What symptoms are a result of COVID then?
Misc: limited exposure to covid's spike protein on immune cells is bad, LDAR, RIP.
Also Misc: unchecked exposure to covid's spike protein on virus itself is totally fine. Mild flu.
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Originally Posted By Fozzy13
lol @ trying to discuss medical biology in the misc...bunch of ******* morons can barely get through the day.

Then wathcing a bunch of *******s on youtube shill whatever their beliefs are to get other retarded ****s to parrot whatever they say.
Well it isn't just 3 random guys:
Dr. Bret Weinstein, biologist and professor

Dr. Robert Malone, the inventor of Mrna vaccine technology
https://www.emedevents.com/speaker-p...obert-w-malone

Mr. Steve Kirsch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Kirsch
They aren't anti-vaxxers in the general sense, or even anti Mrna vaccine. They say that these particular vaccines appear to be less safe than was originally purported by the manufacturers.
Originally Posted By ectoBgone
The J&J still presents the spike protein so some concerns would overlap.

Katya422posted this video about a week agoand provided some good cliffs in the thread.
Cliffs of cliffs:

- vaccine creators claimed that the spike protein would remain trapped inside cells that created it by a membrane and would not circulate freely through the body

- 2 different studies found the spike protein present in plasma
Malone says that he is less worried about the vaccine [lipid concentration] with regard to potential long term autoimmune effect and more worried about the circulating spike protein, which they were not aware of before. "The developers assured us this would not happen. The literature suggested that we would not have a free spike protein. Then Harvard and Brigham did studies and lo and behold we have free spike protein post vaccination."
- post-vaccine deaths are quite high in comparison to the norm; Kirsch says that OpenVaers team estimates the real number to be around 20,000

5,000 reported deaths for the US, 12,000 reported to the Yellow Card system in the UK

Around 1:10 Kirsch states that he contacted the people who run Open VAERs and they estimate the number is more like 20,000 which is more than all other vaccines combines for 30 years. Says when you look at adverse events it is also more than all other vaccines for 30 years combines. Says that the effects support the hypothesis that the spike protein is escaping the cells in the muscle tissue and entering circulation through the body.
- the vaccine concentrates in the ovaries, lymph nodes, and bone marrow and they discuss potential long term effects of this



- the vaccine concentrating in the ovaries seems to lead to an increase in miscarriages; at least for women who are 20 weeks or less

- some people are experiencing long term effects post vaccine which seem very similar to long haul covid

- the FDA is seeing low platelet counts and reactivation of latent viruses

All of them agree that children [very low risk from covid] and people who have already have covid should not have the vaccine.

ETA: The panel endorses prophylactic ivermectin as an alternative to vaccination to avoid infection/serious illness w/covid. Say there is a peer reviewed meta-analysis which supports the effectiveness of ivermectin.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
I am not talking about covid death, way to avoid the question.

Also, what science based evidence do you have that mRNA technology will change your DNA? mRNA vaccines have been in use for decades
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Originally Posted By Lb54TG
Went to my endocrinologist today to to get my t levels checked.

He asked me if I got the vaccine, said no. He said “Well you should”

Said I wanna wait to make sure it’s safe and there’s no major short or long term side effects.
He said “well if it makes you feel better me and my family got it and we’re doing good”

Ok, well tell that to the CDC as they’re having an emergency hearing on heart inflammation due to vaccine lmao.

Foh
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My vaccine card says I'm fully vaccinated.
So does mine, but it's written in crayon on an index card.
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