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Intermittent Fasting gets bad news in new study
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/interm...ests-1.5474316
One group alternated between days of fasting and days in which they consumed twice their usual amount of calories. Another group alternated between days of fasting and days of eating 1.5 times their usual intake. The third group ate every day, but always 25 per cent fewer calories than normal.
In other words, one group practised fasting without reducing overall calorie intake, one group practised fasting with a reduced calorie intake, and one group did not fast but did reduce its calorie count by the same amount as the second group.
After the three weeks were up, the researchers report, the group that did not fast lost 1.9 kilograms on average, versus 1.6 kilograms for those who did fast and reduce their intake.
That difference was bigger than it sounds, because the non-fasting group lost nearly all of their body weight from fat, while the fasting group's weight loss was almost evenly split between fat and muscle.
The other group, members of which did fast but did not reduce their calorie intake, did not experience any significant weight loss.
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ouch, the fasting group lost both fat AND muscle!
group that fasted and didn't lower calories - lost nothing. Contrary to youtube tards.
One group alternated between days of fasting and days in which they consumed twice their usual amount of calories. Another group alternated between days of fasting and days of eating 1.5 times their usual intake. The third group ate every day, but always 25 per cent fewer calories than normal.
In other words, one group practised fasting without reducing overall calorie intake, one group practised fasting with a reduced calorie intake, and one group did not fast but did reduce its calorie count by the same amount as the second group.
After the three weeks were up, the researchers report, the group that did not fast lost 1.9 kilograms on average, versus 1.6 kilograms for those who did fast and reduce their intake.
That difference was bigger than it sounds, because the non-fasting group lost nearly all of their body weight from fat, while the fasting group's weight loss was almost evenly split between fat and muscle.
The other group, members of which did fast but did not reduce their calorie intake, did not experience any significant weight loss.
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ouch, the fasting group lost both fat AND muscle!
group that fasted and didn't lower calories - lost nothing. Contrary to youtube tards.
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06-17-2021, 11:15 AM
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I love how I see tt let it be clear I’d execute myself if they changed me from what I was with their Covid pandemic
Give all my things tj all my friends another 6 months I’ll be unknown...
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If I don’t get out? How do you expect tj get out I’m a soldier you’re some rich tech degenerates
Give all my things tj all my friends another 6 months I’ll be unknown...
No one gets out of alive, Seven7Sins
If I don’t get out? How do you expect tj get out I’m a soldier you’re some rich tech degenerates
06-17-2021, 11:20 AM
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So youre telling me that fasting doesnt break the laws of thermodynamics?
Mind blown. Did people actually believe they could lose weight just by doing IF and not being in a deficit?
Mind blown. Did people actually believe they could lose weight just by doing IF and not being in a deficit?
06-17-2021, 11:20 AM
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I dont fast to lose weight
i eat the same amount of calories as before too. just in a shorter window
not all diet choices are for weight loss or gain. theres more to the human body than that
i eat the same amount of calories as before too. just in a shorter window
not all diet choices are for weight loss or gain. theres more to the human body than that
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06-17-2021, 11:21 AM
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Let's do things the dumbest way possible and wonder why it doesn't work.
You have to fast everyday to get the benefits
You have to fast everyday to get the benefits
06-17-2021, 11:23 AM
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There is so many holes in this study
Also it does burn more fat when you leverage fasted cardio that’s how I got so lean in my AV
Also it does burn more fat when you leverage fasted cardio that’s how I got so lean in my AV
06-17-2021, 11:24 AM
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i'll take some muscle loss for convenience of being lean, wonder what their macros and training regiment was
also this study was most likely poorly done, you can't even rely on studies in 2021
also this study was most likely poorly done, you can't even rely on studies in 2021
06-17-2021, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted By monster0ultra⏩
It's not really BS assuming you're still hitting your macros properly. Problem is people associate IIFYM with eating pizza and cake while neglecting adequate protein intake.Broscience > studies.
Actually doing it and observing what works and what doesn't > some pencilnecks shuffling numbers around to "prove" their point.
6 meals a day of bro food to bulk, good. IF to cut, good. Running, good.
IIFYM, total BS.
Actually doing it and observing what works and what doesn't > some pencilnecks shuffling numbers around to "prove" their point.
6 meals a day of bro food to bulk, good. IF to cut, good. Running, good.
IIFYM, total BS.
Of course if the bulk of what you eat is garbage it's not going to end well. In order to actually fit your macros properly you do have to still actually eat relatively well
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06-17-2021, 11:44 AM
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The group that lost the most weight could have done intermittent fasting. It could be done by doing 1 meal a day. Or eating could be done in a block of time, such as 4 hours.
Skipping days seems like a stupid idea. If you're going to fast, why not actually fast for several days so you get the benefits?
Skipping days seems like a stupid idea. If you're going to fast, why not actually fast for several days so you get the benefits?
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06-17-2021, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
This. I always assumed IF worked because by setting time limits for yourself, you'd be less inclined to snack in the morning/night, and you'd be losing weight to a degree. Also the amount of food you can eat in a 6-8 hour window is smaller than a 16 hour window.So youre telling me that fasting doesnt break the laws of thermodynamics?
Mind blown. Did people actually believe they could lose weight just by doing IF and not being in a deficit?
Mind blown. Did people actually believe they could lose weight just by doing IF and not being in a deficit?
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Shocking, the people that ate more frequently and therefore could eat more dense foods with less calories (because they were spaced out) weighed more than those who just ate huge calorie dense food and then fasted.
When you need to have 2k cals in one hour time, you aint gonna eat vegetables, lean proteins, etc. You are going to eat **** like high fat meats, butters, peanuts, etc. Those food weight much less in average.
300 grams of difference in a 3 week period, i **** turds that weight twice that on a slow tuesday brah.
When you need to have 2k cals in one hour time, you aint gonna eat vegetables, lean proteins, etc. You are going to eat **** like high fat meats, butters, peanuts, etc. Those food weight much less in average.
300 grams of difference in a 3 week period, i **** turds that weight twice that on a slow tuesday brah.
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06-17-2021, 12:17 PM
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oh no i skipped breakfast, my muskles are shriiiinkiiiing!
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Sample size of 12 lean people per group, with imbalanced proportion of males to females. Not sure why they wasted their time to be honest.
Oh wait, a bunch of conflicting funding from Kellogg's and Nestle. I wonder why they may not like IF...
Oh wait, a bunch of conflicting funding from Kellogg's and Nestle. I wonder why they may not like IF...
Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
It appears they gave them porridge and meal replacement shakes in a controller environmentShocking, the people that ate more frequently and therefore could eat more dense foods with less calories (because they were spaced out) weighed more than those who just ate huge calorie dense food and then fasted.
When you need to have 2k cals in one hour time, you aint gonna eat vegetables, lean proteins, etc. You are going to eat **** like high fat meats, butters, peanuts, etc. Those food weight much less in average.
300 grams of difference in a 3 week period, i **** turds that weight twice that on a slow tuesday brah.
When you need to have 2k cals in one hour time, you aint gonna eat vegetables, lean proteins, etc. You are going to eat **** like high fat meats, butters, peanuts, etc. Those food weight much less in average.
300 grams of difference in a 3 week period, i **** turds that weight twice that on a slow tuesday brah.
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These "studies" are so fking retarded. Probably conducted in a college classroom amongst classmates where everybody is secretly cheating.
Might as well ignore any "diet" study out there. Because you can find one to match whatever narrative you want to make.
Might as well ignore any "diet" study out there. Because you can find one to match whatever narrative you want to make.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
If you aren't nattyI always tell people any diet with the word fasting in it is not optimal for keeping muscle while burning fat.
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It's all about calories in vs calories out. I prefer one meal a day because its easier for me. I have more energy in the afternoon and get to eat a real, filling meal at night. If you'd rather have 5 tiny meals than one big one then do that
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Im sorry but this has been widely debunked. Pls delete this thread.
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Originally Posted By Evolutionary1⏩
uhhh actually fasting is even worse if natty. If you are not natty you can get away with fasting more.If you aren't natty
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
Whatever you say paluhhh actually fasting is even worse if natty. If you are not natty you can get away with fasting more.
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What a stupid study - for the amount of time and for completely discrediting IF and how its supposed to function.
Of course the 2 groups that did IF did not lose more weight then the normal group when you increase their calorie intake on off days by 2x as much. SMH.
This is the state of science now, a complete joke.
Of course the 2 groups that did IF did not lose more weight then the normal group when you increase their calorie intake on off days by 2x as much. SMH.
This is the state of science now, a complete joke.
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