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post 1642202083 07-05-2021, 09:06 AM
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Fauci Claims Unvaccinated Comprise 99.2% of US COVID Deaths

https://globalnews.ca/news/8001754/u...inated-people/

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Yes, let's trust an inbred miscer with no sources over an actual medical researcher when it comes to a virus
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Horse chit but if it were true, then he can fuk right off telling everyone to get vaccinated. Clearly by his own #s it's not necessary.
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Daily reminder that the CDC redefined covid positivity for those who are vaccinated versus those who aren't so that the two aren't comparable.
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That guy is still trying to scare people huh
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
Horse chit but if true, then he can fuk right off telling everyone to get vaccinated. Clearly by his own #s it's not necessary.
This. I’m not good with math admittedly, but those numbers don’t add up to me. Also didn’t read article cuz I never trust either side of it from media to be honest. So is he counting in the deaths from the start when things first hit also, like when there was no vaccine? Then claiming them under anti Covid vaxxers?
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truth be known he has nit got the vaccine himself. id lay good odds on that
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Originally Posted By mp83⏩
Yes, let's trust an inbred miscer with no sources over an actual medical researcher when it comes to a virus
It doesn't have to be one or the other. Although the inbred comment is kind of weird.

This guy is on record being wrong about the virus and giving bad advice. He's also on record for receiving massive sums of cash for doing so.

Instead of just blindly picking someone to think for you, why not think for yourself? Don't know why that is so rare these days.
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Originally Posted By donkeydonger⏩
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Originally Posted By BeanGainClovis⏩
It doesn't have to be one or the other. Although the inbred comment is kind of weird.

This guy is on record being wrong about the virus and giving bad advice. He's also on record for receiving massive sums of cash for doing so.

Instead of just blindly picking someone to think for you, why not think for yourself? Don't know why that is so rare these days.
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Why is Fauci still employed? And why do people actually listen to him?
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Originally Posted By BeanGainClovis⏩
It doesn't have to be one or the other. Although the inbred comment is kind of weird.

This guy is on record being wrong about the virus and giving bad advice. He's also on record for receiving massive sums of cash for doing so.

Instead of just blindly picking someone to think for you, why not think for yourself? Don't know why that is so rare these days.
If a surgeon was removing a tumor from you, would you tell him "no thanks, I got this. I did my research and can do this better than you?", or would you let him handle it, even though there is a risk of him making a mistake?

What makes you think you are more qualified than Fauci or the entire scientific community? They all conclude overwhelmingly that getting the vaccine is the safest and smartest option.
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Originally Posted By mp83⏩
Yes, let's trust an inbred miscer with no sources over an actual medical researcher when it comes to a virus
This.
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Originally Posted By latverian41⏩
truth be known he has nit got the vaccine himself. id lay good odds on that
You’re also an alcoholic junkie
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Vaccinated deaths are never counted as covid deaths. Unvaccinated people who die of random other chit are counted as covid deaths.

The covid death numbers have been known to be bullchit for a very long time. Nobody cares what this retard says any more.
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Originally Posted By jamesfrancis1⏩
If a surgeon was removing a tumor from you, would you tell him "no thanks, I got this. I did my research and can do this better than you?", or would you let him handle it, even though there is a risk of him making a mistake?

What makes you think you are more qualified than Fauci or the entire scientific community? They all conclude overwhelmingly that getting the vaccine is the safest and smartest option.


We’re used to hearing about the ‘efficacy’ of vaccines. “Trials show the vaccine is 90% effective,” for example. But what does that actually mean?

It means that if the risk in the unvaccinated group was (say) 1% and in the vaccinated group (say) 0.1%, then the Relative Risk Reduction (RRR) is 0.9/1 = 90%. This is the number for efficacy quoted in studies.

But the Absolute Risk Reduction (ARR) in this example is 1-0.1 = 0.9%. For an individual, this is the important number, because it tells you by how much your risk should be lowered by taking the jab. That must then be compared to the risks from the jab.

And you need to ask: is that the risk reduction of merely testing positive? Mild symptoms? Severe disease? Death? It’s not always clear.

For most people, the ARR for Covid vaccines is extremely low, because for most people, the risk to begin with is very low. Because they sound far less impressive, you rarely hear ARRs quoted. Yet they are crucially important. This Lancet study shows the ARRs for cases (not deaths) for the various vaccines based on clinical trials. These are as follows:

Pfizer: 0.8%
J & J: 1.2%
Moderna: 1.2%
AstraZeneca: 1.3%

For younger age groups, it is far lower than this. Furthermore, younger people are far less likely to have serious symptoms so the ARR for serious illness and death is lower still.

Let’s have a look at the ARR for children.

In the UK, the probability of a child of school age dying of Covid in a 12 month period (the time vaccine antibodies might be expected to last) is about 1 in 700,000 (https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj....eHr46wfi0n-r-4. Annualised)

Other things being equal, this means 700,000 children need to be vaccinated in order to prevent 1 child Covid death. Leaving aside the absurd cost (ie huge profits to pharmaceutical companies), just one blood clot or other vaccine-induced death in 700,000 vaccinations would cancel out the benefit. Never mind the unknown long-term effects.

Yet impressive-sounding headlines like “Covid vaccine is 100% effective in kids ages 12 to 15” say nothing about the almost zero ARR.https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/31/covi...NUa3OhqOStEdoQ...
Understanding Absolute Risk Reduction (ARR) - not just the quoted efficacy - is key to weighing up the pros and cons of the vaccine for different people. For many, the vaccine risk won’t be worth the near-zero Covid risk reduction.

And it’s the ARR for deaths and serious illness, not ‘cases’ and mild symptoms, that matter.

Always look past the headlines.
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Originally Posted By jamesfrancis1⏩
If a surgeon was removing a tumor from you, would you tell him "no thanks, I got this. I did my research and can do this better than you?", or would you let him handle it, even though there is a risk of him making a mistake?

What makes you think you are more qualified than Fauci or the entire scientific community? They all conclude overwhelmingly that getting the vaccine is the safest and smartest option.
Wtf is this comparison?? Lol ..this foooking guy.
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Yeaaah, 99.2% of covid deaths are from unvaccinated, meanwhile people who got the vaccine are still getting covid and cases of enlarged hearts coming up.


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Originally Posted By CellyTech⏩


We’re used to hearing about the ‘efficacy’ of vaccines. “Trials show the vaccine is 90% effective,” for example. But what does that actually mean?

It means that if the risk in the unvaccinated group was (say) 1% and in the vaccinated group (say) 0.1%, then the Relative Risk Reduction (RRR) is 0.9/1 = 90%. This is the number for efficacy quoted in studies.

But the Absolute Risk Reduction (ARR) in this example is 1-0.1 = 0.9%. For an individual, this is the important number, because it tells you by how much your risk should be lowered by taking the jab. That must then be compared to the risks from the jab.

And you need to ask: is that the risk reduction of merely testing positive? Mild symptoms? Severe disease? Death? It’s not always clear.

For most people, the ARR for Covid vaccines is extremely low, because for most people, the risk to begin with is very low. Because they sound far less impressive, you rarely hear ARRs quoted. Yet they are crucially important. This Lancet study shows the ARRs for cases (not deaths) for the various vaccines based on clinical trials. These are as follows:

Pfizer: 0.8%
J & J: 1.2%
Moderna: 1.2%
AstraZeneca: 1.3%

For younger age groups, it is far lower than this. Furthermore, younger people are far less likely to have serious symptoms so the ARR for serious illness and death is lower still.

Let’s have a look at the ARR for children.

In the UK, the probability of a child of school age dying of Covid in a 12 month period (the time vaccine antibodies might be expected to last) is about 1 in 700,000 (https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj....eHr46wfi0n-r-4. Annualised)

Other things being equal, this means 700,000 children need to be vaccinated in order to prevent 1 child Covid death. Leaving aside the absurd cost (ie huge profits to pharmaceutical companies), just one blood clot or other vaccine-induced death in 700,000 vaccinations would cancel out the benefit. Never mind the unknown long-term effects.

Yet impressive-sounding headlines like “Covid vaccine is 100% effective in kids ages 12 to 15” say nothing about the almost zero ARR.https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/31/covi...NUa3OhqOStEdoQ...
Understanding Absolute Risk Reduction (ARR) - not just the quoted efficacy - is key to weighing up the pros and cons of the vaccine for different people. For many, the vaccine risk won’t be worth the near-zero Covid risk reduction.

And it’s the ARR for deaths and serious illness, not ‘cases’ and mild symptoms, that matter.

Always look past the headlines.
You do realize that death isn't the only thing you're trying to prevent by vaccinating, right? You realize you are trying to prevent the spread of the disease, the effects of the disease, and potential mutations, right? Also, it's incredibly stupid to look at the absolute risk reduction. You might have a 10% chance to get a girl pregnant without wearing a condom, and while wearing a condom, that risk might drop to 1%. You might then argue it's a 9% risk reduction. But it means your risk is reduced by a factor of 10 using a condom. That is a substantial benefit to using the condom over not using it. You seem to think Covid either kills or it doesn't and leaves you perfectly fine, and doesn't have any long term effects otherwise. You also seem to think that you vaccinate a group purely to reduce risk to that group rather than widespread vaccination being beneficial to reduce risk to the entire population, including the most vulnerable people.

TLDR: You clearly have no real education in epidemiology or public health or immunology. You're an antivaxxer moron, and you have no clue what you're talking about. This is why you aren't paid to do the job, and people like Fauci are. Very fancy graphic though. 10/10. Did some Russian comrades provide it to you or did you make it yourself?
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Originally Posted By cgh⏩
Why is Fauci still employed? And why do people actually listen to him?
Vested interests is my best guess.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1510766804...dDbGljaz10cnVl
Originally Posted By CellyTech⏩


Let’s have a look at the ARR for children.

In the UK, the probability of a child of school age dying of Covid in a 12 month period (the time vaccine antibodies might be expected to last) is about 1 in 700,000 (https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj....eHr46wfi0n-r-4. Annualised)

Other things being equal, this means 700,000 children need to be vaccinated in order to prevent 1 child Covid death. Leaving aside the absurd cost (ie huge profits to pharmaceutical companies), just one blood clot or other vaccine-induced death in 700,000 vaccinations would cancel out the benefit. Never mind the unknown long-term effects.

Yet impressive-sounding headlines like “Covid vaccine is 100% effective in kids ages 12 to 15” say nothing about the almost zero ARR.https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/31/covi...NUa3OhqOStEdoQ...
Understanding Absolute Risk Reduction (ARR) - not just the quoted efficacy - is key to weighing up the pros and cons of the vaccine for different people. For many, the vaccine risk won’t be worth the near-zero Covid risk reduction.

And it’s the ARR for deaths and serious illness, not ‘cases’ and mild symptoms, that matter.

Always look past the headlines.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
Vested interests is my best guess.

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Well duh, most people died before the vaccine came out
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It's true,

99.2% of united states covid deaths are unvaccinated

but how many of those covid deaths are from covid?
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Originally Posted By BeanGainClovis⏩
It doesn't have to be one or the other. Although the inbred comment is kind of weird.

This guy is on record being wrong about the virus and giving bad advice. He's also on record for receiving massive sums of cash for doing so.

Instead of just blindly picking someone to think for you, why not think for yourself? Don't know why that is so rare these days.
He's a baby, negged me with some weird comment about being a Trumper. Trump is 100% prov-vaccine, so I don't get it.
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Originally Posted By mp83⏩
Yes, let's trust an inbred miscer with no sources over an actual medical researcher when it comes to a virus
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