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calc 1 & 2? possible to pass if i suck at math?
does a ******* like myself stand any chance of successfully completing these classes if math has never been my strong suit?
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if you have a shaky foundation and can't do things like completing the square, etc. without looking it up, it will be very difficult imo
obviously attitude and determination can get you through however, like with many things
obviously attitude and determination can get you through however, like with many things
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Not sure about Calculus 2 however, I was never the strongest at math and I managed a solid B (or an A, took the class in 2012) in Calculus 1.
Hopefully I am not remembering incorrectly, but I don't believe I struggled with Calculus 1.
Hopefully I am not remembering incorrectly, but I don't believe I struggled with Calculus 1.
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Yes they are easy. Math, numbers aside, is just logic. If you can think logically then it should be easy. But you have to apply that logic in the context of numbers. That’s all calc 1-2 is. Following a set of established rules to get the answer through logic
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Yeah, you gotta have your algebra/trig/prereq basics pinned down. Or else you'll be lookin up definitions of definitions. But imo if you meet a certain baseline of intelligence, math is like lifting weights. All about that repetition and practice brah. You got to put in the hours.
Yes, some ****** may have better genetics for the maths, but just like lifting we are all competing against ourselves. I pretty much just practiced problems until I understood whatever method I was trying to learn. Once I understood it, I practiced problems more to get faster and better at it.
It helps to have equations with solved solutions as well. But so you can see step by step how you figure chit out. No pain no gain brah.
Yes, some ****** may have better genetics for the maths, but just like lifting we are all competing against ourselves. I pretty much just practiced problems until I understood whatever method I was trying to learn. Once I understood it, I practiced problems more to get faster and better at it.
It helps to have equations with solved solutions as well. But so you can see step by step how you figure chit out. No pain no gain brah.
Originally Posted By swolefnatic⏩
Exactly. Math is critical thinking.Yes they are easy. Math, numbers aside, is just logic. If you can think logically then it should be easy. But you have to apply that logic in the context of numbers. That’s all calc 1-2 is. Following a set of established rules to get the answer through logic
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Youtube is what helped me, patrickjmt especially
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Originally Posted By lockdev⏩
Yeah. Calc 2 is where I learned I couldn't coast anymore and had to put in the work.If you understand algebra and some trig, you'll be fine in Calc 1. Calc 2 will require a little extra effort.
Calc 1 really isn't hard if you are going in with a solid foundation.
Calc 1 really isn't hard if you are going in with a solid foundation.
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it isn't super difficult, but if you have a shaky foundation as others said it can get brutal quickly. concepts basically build upon concepts. I kinda made that mistake in university where I would sort of coast through things initially and then it got to the point where I just had to really sit down and review the basic concepts again before really learning the harder stuff.
it really just comes down to knowing/memorizing the rules then showing your proof and logic. also lots of practice with many different types of equations and logic. at least when I did it back in university, obviously getting the correct answer was part of it, but the most important part and what they are looking for is your approach and the steps you took to answer the question. From that standpoint it's easier because you don't have to arrive at the correct answer but as long as most of your logic/steps are sound, you'll get okay marks, at least for the longer and more complex questions.
for stuff like multiple choice and simple equations, yeah, they'll expect the correct answers.
it really just comes down to knowing/memorizing the rules then showing your proof and logic. also lots of practice with many different types of equations and logic. at least when I did it back in university, obviously getting the correct answer was part of it, but the most important part and what they are looking for is your approach and the steps you took to answer the question. From that standpoint it's easier because you don't have to arrive at the correct answer but as long as most of your logic/steps are sound, you'll get okay marks, at least for the longer and more complex questions.
for stuff like multiple choice and simple equations, yeah, they'll expect the correct answers.
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thats what concerns me is the foundation needed before thisif you have a shaky foundation and can't do things like completing the square, etc. without looking it up, it will be very difficult imo
obviously attitude and determination can get you through however, like with many things
obviously attitude and determination can get you through however, like with many things
i've only taken college algebra up until this point
Originally Posted By iamanalphamale⏩
gives me hope bro! i believe with enough applied effort on my end I will make it through come hell or high waterNot sure about Calculus 2 however, I was never the strongest at math and I managed a solid B (or an A, took the class in 2012) in Calculus 1.
Hopefully I am not remembering incorrectly, but I don't believe I struggled with Calculus 1.
Hopefully I am not remembering incorrectly, but I don't believe I struggled with Calculus 1.
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lmao i'm trying brah!Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
how screwed do you think i am if college algebra is my baseline?If you put the work in, if you don't have the proper foundation going in though...
Originally Posted By swolefnatic⏩
when you say apply logic through the context of numbers what does that mean?Yes they are easy. Math, numbers aside, is just logic. If you can think logically then it should be easy. But you have to apply that logic in the context of numbers. That’s all calc 1-2 is. Following a set of established rules to get the answer through logic
Originally Posted By Ntwadumela9⏩
college algebra is my baseline currently how much trig would i have to know in order to go in comfortably? how i see it is that if i'm willing to dedicate a couple hours a day to really figuring out and mastering these formulas and concepts i should stand a solid chanceYeah, you gotta have your algebra/trig/prereq basics pinned down. Or else you'll be lookin up definitions of definitions. But imo if you meet a certain baseline of intelligence, math is like lifting weights. All about that repetition and practice brah. You got to put in the hours.
Yes, some ****** may have better genetics for the maths, but just like lifting we are all competing against ourselves. I pretty much just practiced problems until I understood whatever method I was trying to learn. Once I understood it, I practiced problems more to get faster and better at it.
It helps to have equations with solved solutions as well. But so you can see step by step how you figure chit out. No pain no gain brah.
Exactly. Math is critical thinking.
Yes, some ****** may have better genetics for the maths, but just like lifting we are all competing against ourselves. I pretty much just practiced problems until I understood whatever method I was trying to learn. Once I understood it, I practiced problems more to get faster and better at it.
It helps to have equations with solved solutions as well. But so you can see step by step how you figure chit out. No pain no gain brah.
Exactly. Math is critical thinking.
Originally Posted By lockdev⏩
algebra, yes. trig...not so much lolIf you understand algebra and some trig, you'll be fine in Calc 1. Calc 2 will require a little extra effort.
Calc 1 really isn't hard if you are going in with a solid foundation.
Calc 1 really isn't hard if you are going in with a solid foundation.
Originally Posted By DontbeSwak⏩
will utilize. i also remember some khan(sp?) academy being very praised for mathematic help on youtubeYoutube is what helped me, patrickjmt especially
Originally Posted By mesobuild⏩
thats my plan boyo i just want to ensure i have the best chancesEasily. Study the main topics. Not a whole lot to it.
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Totally depends on your foundation (which is sounds like is not the best).
You can get thru Calc I even with a weak foundation, but Calc II will be much tougher.
I used to be relatively decent at math (Civil Engineer with a Math Minor), and getting thru Calc II was a grind for me. Oddly enough, Differential Equations proved to be easy for me and enjoyed it.
You can get thru Calc I even with a weak foundation, but Calc II will be much tougher.
I used to be relatively decent at math (Civil Engineer with a Math Minor), and getting thru Calc II was a grind for me. Oddly enough, Differential Equations proved to be easy for me and enjoyed it.
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refresh your algebra and a bit of trig and you'll be fine, if you don't study you'll probably suck ass at calc 2 since some of the methods of solving things can be less obvious, but calc 1 is easier than pre calc tbh.
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How did you do in college algebra? Because honestly if you’re good at factoring and distributing, with good attention to detail, you can get a B in Calc 1 without knowing any trig
All the trig that you do need to know can be basically written out on a single sheet of paper and the concepts taught to you in an hour.
Calc 2 is a different story, need to know trig identities and other stuff
If you’re motivated, seek out to master stuff you don’t understand on your own, and use resources like khan academy then you’ll be fine
All the trig that you do need to know can be basically written out on a single sheet of paper and the concepts taught to you in an hour.
Calc 2 is a different story, need to know trig identities and other stuff
If you’re motivated, seek out to master stuff you don’t understand on your own, and use resources like khan academy then you’ll be fine
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Originally Posted By IlChosenOne⏩
wut. did you go to some inner city school where they wrote out all the formulas, trig identities and unit circle on the board before every test? lmaoyou can get a B in Calc 1 without knowing any trig
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I was never good at math and had to put a lot of studying and effort into calculus when I took it, but I wound up getting decent grades in it.
At my uni I dun goofed though, instead of taking Calc 1 and Calc 2, I took Calc A, B and C which was a three semester sequence that went at a slower pace. I figured it'd be better for me since I always had to work my ass off at math and that the slower pace would help me. It turns out that Calc A was the same as Calc 1, and Calc B and Calc C was Calc 2 split up into two semeters. Calc B was all integrals, and Calc C was series, sequences and differential equations. Calc C absolutely tore me a new angus because it went way more in depth onto the hardest parts of Calc 2. Would have been better off taking the traditional 2 semester sequence.
At my uni I dun goofed though, instead of taking Calc 1 and Calc 2, I took Calc A, B and C which was a three semester sequence that went at a slower pace. I figured it'd be better for me since I always had to work my ass off at math and that the slower pace would help me. It turns out that Calc A was the same as Calc 1, and Calc B and Calc C was Calc 2 split up into two semeters. Calc B was all integrals, and Calc C was series, sequences and differential equations. Calc C absolutely tore me a new angus because it went way more in depth onto the hardest parts of Calc 2. Would have been better off taking the traditional 2 semester sequence.
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Depends on the time you put in to some degree, for a lot of people, no
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I had to take pre calculus as a pre req for cal 1 (in wk 3 now, derivatives)
Initially there is a whole slew of new vocabulary, derivative, derivative of a function, limit laws, lol i had to review long division cause i never used that chit prior
I would recommend Khan Academy to start brushing up on limits/derivatives. 5 more weeks to go for me
Initially there is a whole slew of new vocabulary, derivative, derivative of a function, limit laws, lol i had to review long division cause i never used that chit prior
I would recommend Khan Academy to start brushing up on limits/derivatives. 5 more weeks to go for me
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I just finished Calc I with an 88%. I had an A until final day
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Originally Posted By akmerle⏩
Same exact experience brah besides the math minor although I only needed like 3 more classes to get it. Also a licensed civil engineer.Totally depends on your foundation (which is sounds like is not the best).
You can get thru Calc I even with a weak foundation, but Calc II will be much tougher.
I used to be relatively decent at math (Civil Engineer with a Math Minor), and getting thru Calc II was a grind for me. Oddly enough, Differential Equations proved to be easy for me and enjoyed it.
You can get thru Calc I even with a weak foundation, but Calc II will be much tougher.
I used to be relatively decent at math (Civil Engineer with a Math Minor), and getting thru Calc II was a grind for me. Oddly enough, Differential Equations proved to be easy for me and enjoyed it.
Calc 2 humbled my partying @as. Changed my mindset in college. Had to take it again and put in the work. Everything after even physics dynamics diff equations didn't seem like such a grind
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Originally Posted By DrugsToGetBig⏩
And integral is like taking your clothes off.does a ******* like myself stand any chance of successfully completing these classes if math has never been my strong suit?
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A derivative is putting them back on.
Or is it the reverse?
Can't remember. I had a teacher who taught it like that.
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yeah man you'll be fine, just pay attention to the lectures and do practice problems. Get those calculus for dummy cheat sheets, they will help a lot.
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Yea go for it. There are different approaches to taking a course like calc. Some get through it mainly memorizing rules ... "what is the derivative of tan[x]", "how do I approach an integral of type X", etc. A nicer approach would be to understand the underlying theory and to see why are we even doing all this in the first place- sadly this doesnt get taught in a calc class that much.
There is nothing mysterious or super difficult about calc- studying enough and practicing lots of problems will get one through it, like other math classes. The material is more interesting than say, trig imo, which makes for a better learning experience. Students in a calc class typically struggle with algebra mistakes/being careful than actual calc mistakes. So if you have algebra and expression manipulation down well, that would be a big plus.
Edit: if you didnt take trig/pre-calc, I would probably take that first before jumping from algebra to calc
There is nothing mysterious or super difficult about calc- studying enough and practicing lots of problems will get one through it, like other math classes. The material is more interesting than say, trig imo, which makes for a better learning experience. Students in a calc class typically struggle with algebra mistakes/being careful than actual calc mistakes. So if you have algebra and expression manipulation down well, that would be a big plus.
Edit: if you didnt take trig/pre-calc, I would probably take that first before jumping from algebra to calc
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