Just some observations on this.

1. Mattdoesfitness is an idiot, he walked straight into a trap by a guy who had NO interest in anything he had to say, and a burning desire to prove he's lying about being natty.


2. More plates more dates is ashamed of himself for being a gear head and has an obsession to prove anyone else with a good physique must be on gear, because if he couldn't do it natty neither can anyone else.

3. Both these guys are narcissists but more plates more dates legit gives off serial killer vibes

4. I dunno if mattdoesfitness is natty or not, and I don't really care but I think he MIGHT be, (low chance but it is possible)

5. Mattdoesfitness will NEVER be able to prove he's natural to his haters, even if he is, there is no win for him and he was foolish to engage the conversation

6. Mike Thurston is smarter than he comes across to stay the hell away from this

https://youtu.be/TDOywZTbHK4


Anyway that's it, I dunno why people get so obsessed over this stuff, but it's just retarded honestly, just worry about your own training goals and body goals and don't waste energy on obsessively trying to prove so and so isn't natty, who cares, it makes no difference.

Stopped reading there because you're obviously retarded.

Derek is a legend, stfu

mattdoesfitness annoys me and i can't put my finger on it.

it's the way he's constantly doing the 'prayer' position with his hands to tense his arms, and the way he says "hello and welcome", sounds proper retarded.

I've also realised it's his lack of eyebrows that makes him look weird

Derek is mostly an insecure *******. He spams his channel so I don’t watch anymore.

Both Mike and Matt are not natural.

Both Mike and Matt look better than 95% of the gym goers ever will, natty or not.

Matt probably does something 'mild and safe' as he is a dad, and Mike probs blasts an unhealthy amount during parts of the year.

Focus on your self king.

He's not naturally extroverted and forces it on his channel so it comes off insincere.

He does make some OK content from time to time mostly just his eating challenge stuff. Background noise innit.

Thurston is as obvious as it gets, matt, like HONESTLY I think he has a great physique but it's not that mind blowing to me that I think yeah nailed on gear user. I know guys who have very similar physiques and yeah they run test-e but they also have 40 hour a week jobs, not great diets and don't train as a full time career so idk.

And yet here you are, making this thread...

I honestly don't know who these people are so I have no further input...

Just an observation as it's been spamming my feed

"more plates more dates legit gives off serial killer vibes"

Lol wtf are you talking about. He's a weird guy in some aspects but nothing about him seems violent. In fact he seems the opposite, to his detriment.

It's his piercing, unblinking stare that peers into your soul, frozen in time, forever.

Yeah true, he could be clean.. but i personally don't think that he's natty.yeah that's how you look at somebody who's lying to you.

I've had a friend who i always suspected was on gear do the same thing to me and his mates - even his dad once insinuated that he's on gear, but he kept doing mental games to make people think he's natty, like attacking other juice heads, etc.

It's like i get it, some guys actually look good and if they admit to gear use, it takes away from their accomplishment.

That's the thing people don't understand - to even LOOK like a meat head or juicer, you need good genetics, diet, and training.

Most guys end up still looking DYEL.

Have you ever used ped’s ?

Dereks channel is very accurate when it comes down to the science and everything of compounds. Sure he does these dumb click bait videos sometimes which are annoying like “15 year old on tren”.

Oh and manletdoesfitness is not natty

mike thurston is busy with... other things

https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=180439263