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post 1645761823 08-26-2021, 10:08 AM
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Pfizer vaccine is associated with an increased risk of myocarditis in young males.

Sorry if repost, but found this study on vaccine causing myocarditis (heart swelling) in young males and felt it might apply to young miscers thinking of getting the vaccine.

the study does note that coronavirus itself has a higher chance of causing the myocarditis than the vaccine. one thing though is that by taking the vaccine you are 100% guaranteed a chance of getting it whereas you'd have to actually get covid bad enough to impact your organs for covid itself to do that which is of course a small % in and of itself.

-From the article.
"The Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine is associated with an increased risk of myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart muscle, a large new study from Israel confirms. But the side effect remains rare, and Covid-19 is more likely to cause myocarditis than the vaccine is, scientists reported on Wednesday."

"In one recent study, which has not yet been published in a peer reviewed journal, researchers calculated that 12- to 17-year-old boys were about six times as likely to develop myocarditis after infection with the virus than after receiving one of the mRNA vaccines."

link is here as i don't want to just copy the entire ****ing thing and make the thread massive.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/25/h...s-vaccine.html

thoughts? anyone who's vaxxed have these side effects?
post 1645762663 08-26-2021, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted By DrumsNotDead
thoughts?
Many of us said this months and months ago and it was ignored as "conspiracy nonsense."

Don't even care anymore. Enjoy your vaccines.
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was just reading this the latest FUBAR a few hours ago -






Channel 7 journalist Denham Hitchcock in hospital with pericarditis after COVID-19 Pfizer vaccine
https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/cor...ng-b881983043z

As of 25 July, 84 cases of myocarditis and/or pericarditis had been reported in Australia to the Therapeutic Goods Administration following the Pfizer vaccine.
The cases were disproportionately men and teenagers under the age of 30 after their second dose of Pfizer.



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Originally Posted By Dan_S
Many of us said this months and months ago and it was ignored as "conspiracy nonsense."

Don't even care anymore. Enjoy your vaccines.
im not pressing for the vaccine dude, lol i'm against it.
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Originally Posted By DrumsNotDead
one thing though is that by taking the vaccine you are 100% guaranteed a chance of getting it whereas you'd have to actually get covid bad enough to impact your organs for covid itself to do that which is of course a small % in and of itself.
so odds of contracting COVID AND myocarditis is still < myocarditis from the vaccine itself?
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Kinda hard to have a revolt later down the line if the young, fighting age males are walking around with damaged tickers
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So you're much more likely to get myocarditis from covid-19 than the vaccine, good to know
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Originally Posted By DrumsNotDead
Sorry if repost, but found this study on vaccine causing myocarditis (heart swelling) in young males and felt it might apply to young miscers thinking of getting the vaccine.

the study does note that coronavirus itself has a higher chance of causing the myocarditis than the vaccine. one thing though is that by taking the vaccine you are 100% guaranteed a chance of getting it whereas you'd have to actually get covid bad enough to impact your organs for covid itself to do that which is of course a small % in and of itself.

-From the article.
"The Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine is associated with an increased risk of myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart muscle, a large new study from Israel confirms. But the side effect remains rare, and Covid-19 is more likely to cause myocarditis than the vaccine is, scientists reported on Wednesday."

"In one recent study, which has not yet been published in a peer reviewed journal, researchers calculated that 12- to 17-year-old boys were about six times as likely to develop myocarditis after infection with the virus than after receiving one of the mRNA vaccines."

link is here as i don't want to just copy the entire ****ing thing and make the thread massive.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/25/h...s-vaccine.html

thoughts? anyone who's vaxxed have these side effects?
Thoughts?

Yes. Looks like Moderna may be worse in this regard based on a Canadian study that is in pre-print.

Moderna Vax 2.5X Higher Rate Of Myocarditis vs. Pfizer Vax

https://www.biospace.com/article/hig...s-investigate/
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post 1645766193 08-26-2021, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted By katya422
Thoughts?

Yes. Looks like Moderna may be worse in this regard based on a Canadian study that is in pre-print.

Moderna Vax 2.5X Higher Rate Of Myocarditis vs. Pfizer Vax

https://www.biospace.com/article/hig...s-investigate/
Pfizer vax is 30 micrograms, Moderna is 100 micrograms, so it make sense
post 1645767293 08-26-2021, 11:32 AM
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Oh look another vaccine thread
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Originally Posted By anonkunbrah
Oh look another vaccine thread
Oh why is their so many threads about the world catching fire? let's talk abut the Olympics and fighting for the right to be LGBTQZYXR at 3 years old.
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I had myocarditis 10ish years ago. I was sidelined for like a month and still get daily chest pain. **** is no good
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Imagine being young and healthy and still taking the vaccine after knowing it does chit like this.
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i'm one of the younger posters here. got pfizer last week. will update if my heart explodes. have already ridden a bike in the past (1 tour) so probably not a great combo...
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post 1645769123 08-26-2021, 11:57 AM
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johnson and johnson with blood clots

pfizer with heart disease

will moderna strike next with cancer?

find out next booster on dragon ball z
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Originally Posted By Joseph1990
Oh why is their so many threads about the world catching fire? let's talk abut the Olympics and fighting for the right to be LGBTQZYXR at 3 years old.
I would just be content with them all getting merged into a single vaxxine thread
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So Covid gives you that too but at a higher rate ?

So only way to avoid it is to not get vaxxed or catch Covid ?
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I have a bicuspid aortic valve which means that I have technically two valves going to my heart and a super faint third valve in terms of pumping blood to my heart.

I feel that I might be potentially affected by this, I "technically" had a heart murmur as a kid, but apparently you tend to grow out of it as an adult.

I've had COVID previously in October 2020 and was curious about a 1 dose just to up the antibodies (I've been reading/watching a lot of studies about this) but this makes me hesitant.
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Originally Posted By thadderbox
I have a bicuspid aortic valve which means that I have technically two valves going to my heart and a super faint third valve in terms of pumping blood to my heart.

I feel that I might be potentially affected by this, I "technically" had a heart murmur as a kid, but apparently you tend to grow out of it as an adult.

I've had COVID previously in October 2020 and was curious about a 1 dose just to up the antibodies (I've been reading/watching a lot of studies about this) but this makes me hesitant.
You should have antibodies then. You can of course consult a physician, but I think your risk/benefit profile skews much more towards risk unless you have some other big health issue.
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Originally Posted By katya422
You should have antibodies then. You can of course consult a physician, but I think your risk/benefit profile skews much more towards risk unless you have some other big health issue.
I've been reading on the science of antibodies and it keeps changing to a point where it's now said to be a lifetime.

I was only considering the jab should things progressively get worse in terms of cases and variants as a measure, science does say that 1 dose can increase already existing antibody protection too.
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Doesn't the article say the associated risk of myocarditis with the actual virus is much higher?
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Originally Posted By BrianDaMan
Pfizer vax is 30 micrograms, Moderna is 100 micrograms, so it make sense
250 micrograms was proven to be too toxic...https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01893-0

I doubt they fuked anything up with lowering it to 100 micrograms of toxicity. not srs
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Originally Posted By Retoaded
Doesn't the article say the associated risk of myocarditis with the actual virus is much higher?
Yes

Chances are we'll all catch the virus eventually, so pick your poison
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Originally Posted By DrumsNotDead
one thing though is that by taking the vaccine you are 100% guaranteed a chance of getting it whereas you'd have to actually get covid bad enough to impact your organs for covid itself to do that which is of course a small % in and of itself.
How did you arrive at his
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Covid-19 can cause myocarditis.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7988375/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7199677/
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With the rise of myocarditis and blood clotting caused by the vaccines they now fabricate lies that the virus itself causes them too. Zero animal models inoculated with SARS-CoV-2 developed these problems. Notice how covid was strictly a respiratory disease until vaccine rollouts began? Now it can cause heart attacks too JFL.

Fukin lmao, doctors covering for their pharma overlords who pay their salaries as usual. Can't wait for the new claims that it causes cancer too.
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