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10-06-2021, 11:59 AM
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is poverty the biggest predictor of violent crime?
if not, what is?
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10-06-2021, 12:00 PM
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Poverty and then being a dinger or not.
10-06-2021, 12:00 PM
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yeah and unfortunately it's a vicious cycle
poverty parents raise poverty kids and it just keeps repeating at a rate faster than the kids who escape poverty
poverty parents raise poverty kids and it just keeps repeating at a rate faster than the kids who escape poverty
10-06-2021, 12:03 PM
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If you look at poverty around the world, regardless of color, culture etc, crime is highest among the poor. The problems are replicated everywhere.
Americans pretend that its racism, but in fact, there is far more evidence this isn’t true. This is why the Marxist solutions are, will, and always have been a devastating solution.
Americans pretend that its racism, but in fact, there is far more evidence this isn’t true. This is why the Marxist solutions are, will, and always have been a devastating solution.
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10-06-2021, 12:04 PM
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being raised by criminals/pieces of ****
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10-06-2021, 12:06 PM
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Lack of strong father figure and being raised by a single mother who gets trains ran through her
10-06-2021, 12:08 PM
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Culture and it's not even close.
Wealthiest 10% of black families in the United States have a murder rate >20x that of the poorest 10% of white families.

When the covariance of Race and Family Income are compared:
http://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levi...onship1999.pdf
Wealthiest 10% of black families in the United States have a murder rate >20x that of the poorest 10% of white families.

When the covariance of Race and Family Income are compared:
For whites, homicide rates were unrelated to income in the 1986-95 period. In fact, the very lowest homicide rates were reported in the poorest white neighborhoods. For blacks, the pattern was less pronounced. The worst black neighborhoods experienced higher homicide rates in later years, but the rise in homicides in these neighborhoods was much smaller than the proportionate increase in the richer black neighborhoods. Murder rates in the 75th to 90th income percentile more than quadrupled for blacks; rates for the highest 10 percent of blacks more than doubled.
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A one-standard-deviation change in median family income ($7,650), evaluated at the sample mean, raises the homicide rate by about 50 percent. When other covariates [aka race] are included, the impact of family incomeis roughly halved and loses statistical significance. A 5 percent increase in the percentage of residents that are black (holding income constant) has approximately the sameimpact on homicide rates as a $1,000 increase in family income.
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A one-standard-deviation change in median family income ($7,650), evaluated at the sample mean, raises the homicide rate by about 50 percent. When other covariates [aka race] are included, the impact of family incomeis roughly halved and loses statistical significance. A 5 percent increase in the percentage of residents that are black (holding income constant) has approximately the sameimpact on homicide rates as a $1,000 increase in family income.

http://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levi...onship1999.pdf
10-06-2021, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Leonydus⏩
YEa I remember reading the stat saying black people who are middle class or are rich kill/commit violent crimes against every other race in the same class too. It's clearly a culture problem but statistics are racist.
10-06-2021, 12:18 PM
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If you want to discuss crime for Specific cultures in the US, and this is a different story. Crime is always higher low income areas, but crime rates in black communities did not skyrocket until after the welfare state. It is a direct cause and effect of “socialist oppression”
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10-06-2021, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Leonydus⏩

Are both places listing only crimes committed by residents only or is it all crime including outsiders?

I only ask because around here the poor people are killing each other in the poor neighborhoods then go into the rich neighborhoods to do the same because that's where the good stuff is to steel.
10-06-2021, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Thomas Sowell has written extensively on how the welfare state and Democrat "plantationism" ruined African-Americans. It is interesting stuff.If you want to discuss crime for Specific cultures in the US, and this is a different story. Crime is always higher low income areas, but crime rates in black communities did not skyrocket until after the welfare state. It is a direct cause and effect of “socialist oppression”
Fatherlessness plays a huge issue in criminality, due to absence of positive role model. So the kids start to idolize the gang sub-culture and immoral rappers who preach violence and misogyny. I would say the "it's not race, it's poverty" argument has been exposed as totally flawed though and is just liberal cope. Within the black community there are high rates of crimes not associated with obtaining wealth, like rape, assaults (without taking anything) and murder.
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10-06-2021, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
This.If you want to discuss crime for Specific cultures in the US, and this is a different story. Crime is always higher low income areas, but crime rates in black communities did not skyrocket until after the welfare state. It is a direct cause and effect of “socialist oppression”
BRB government creates programs that incentivize single motherhood, joblessness, and dependence-- all of which are strongly correlated to negative outcomes. Black family wealth on average is lower than the national level, so black families are disproportionately incentivized to perform worse. Black families perform worse. Degenerate "hood" subcultures that value single motherhood, joblessness, and dependence emerge.
Not rocket science.
Originally Posted By maori-rap⏩
Repped. Tom Sowell, Shelby Steele, Larry Elder, Jason Riley, Condoleezza Rice, Clarence Thomas, Jessie Peterson, Walter E. Williams, Ben Carson. And that's all right off the top of my head.Thomas Sowell has written extensively on how the welfare state and Democrat "plantationism" ruined African-Americans. It is interesting stuff.
Fatherlessness plays a huge issue in criminality, due to absence of positive role model. So the kids start to idolize the gang sub-culture and immoral rappers who preach violence and misogyny. I would say the "it's not race, it's poverty" argument has been exposed as totally flawed though and is just liberal cope. Within the black community there are high rates of crimes not associated with obtaining wealth, like rape, assaults (without taking anything) and murder.
Fatherlessness plays a huge issue in criminality, due to absence of positive role model. So the kids start to idolize the gang sub-culture and immoral rappers who preach violence and misogyny. I would say the "it's not race, it's poverty" argument has been exposed as totally flawed though and is just liberal cope. Within the black community there are high rates of crimes not associated with obtaining wealth, like rape, assaults (without taking anything) and murder.
BRB black conservatives advocating for the policies needed to improve positive outcomes for black Americans all lynched by the propaganda machine for being race traitors and "ignoring" the racism that was supposed to have held them back.
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10-06-2021, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
marxist solutions are an act of war against the people of a country hence why we're in a cold war with the 2% that control all media and banks.If you look at poverty around the world, regardless of color, culture etc, crime is highest among the poor. The problems are replicated everywhere.
Americans pretend that its racism, but in fact, there is far more evidence this isn’t true. This is why the Marxist solutions are, will, and always have been a devastating solution.
Americans pretend that its racism, but in fact, there is far more evidence this isn’t true. This is why the Marxist solutions are, will, and always have been a devastating solution.
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10-06-2021, 12:42 PM
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