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post 1651476583 11-25-2021, 09:25 AM
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Is the incel problem actually a lot more common than people think it is?

As in young men being able to date or get laid with decent looking girls and pretty girls, not landwhales or ugly females

when I was in college, the decent looking white guys with status could get average looking girls if they were socially popular, but still struggled a lot

guys without status pretty much got no girls

even above average looking guys didn't get actually attractive girls if they didn't have status
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post 1651476743 11-25-2021, 09:27 AM
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I have a few incel friends, but it's almost 100% their fault. I also have friends at every level of social status, looks, height, etc. who get laid too.

Sloots are literally retarded children. Incels overcomplicate it by assigning them agency and critical thinking skills that they neither want not possess.
post 1651477623 11-25-2021, 09:44 AM
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The reason is 70% obesity rate among American females. Go to Eastern Europe and you see average guys with good looking women.
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Originally Posted By TomWanks
I have a few incel friends, but it's almost 100% their fault. I also have friends at every level of social status, looks, height, etc. who get laid too.

Sloots are literally retarded children. Incels overcomplicate it by assigning them agency and critical thinking skills that they neither want not possess.
incel personalities are usually a product of their environment. like over-bearing immigrant parents, abusive parents, early exposure to drugs(legal and illegal), poverty upbringing(bad nutrition, stunted growth, low self esteem etc).



These people will never be popular or have status because their upbringing doomed them.
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Originally Posted By Slaydom
incel personalities are usually a product of their environment. like over-bearing immigrant parents, abusive parents, early exposure to drugs(legal and illegal), poverty upbringing(bad nutrition, stunted growth, low self esteem etc).



These people will never be popular or have status because their upbringing doomed them.
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post 1651477973 11-25-2021, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted By PectoralBrah
I’m 30, and I have a lot of friends who I’ve known since high school who are incels. It’s their fault completely. They chose to play video games 24/7 and hang out on the internet. Suffice to say, internet’s a helluva drug
you need the right type of social circle to get a girlfriend

it has to be cool and hip popular young people

if your friends are all nerds or geeks, you have 0 social access to decent looking girls

social circle is pretty much the only way to meet girls, almost no one does by walking up to randoms at the mall
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i went to undergrad 2005-2010 (at one of the most densely populated school full of hbb's in the country, ded srs prolly top 3), and let me tell you boyo is was waaaay different back then, as even your average dude (6.5-7) could still pull about a 7 if he had something else going for him like being a football player or could play an instrument, or could pull off the bad boy look (super fukkin easy at these uni's where mommy and daddy send their good little girl off to).

now take that 7 you used to be able to get, cut it in half and thats basically the standards nowadays while also being a 7 yourself and needing status on top of it.
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Originally Posted By friesbruh
i went to undergrad 2005-2010 (at one of the most densely populated school full of hbb's in the country, ded srs prolly top 3), and let me tell you boyo is was waaaay different back then, as even your average dude (6.5-7) could still pull about a 7 if he had something else going for him like being a football player or could play an instrument, or could pull off the bad boy look (super fukkin easy at these uni's where mommy and daddy send their good little girl off to).

now take that 7 you used to be able to get, cut it in half and thats basically the standards nowadays while also being a 7 yourself and needing status on top of it.
i think today, football men can still get girls easily

they are literally gods on campus
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Seems to be pretty common if Bill Maher is talking about it.

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Incel slang like X-cel, "cope" and "it's over" have proliferated all over the internet. It wouldn't have gained such popularity if guys didn't identify with inceldom tosomedegree....

Inceldom is a hell of a lot more common than you'd think.
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post 1651478623 11-25-2021, 10:00 AM
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Its extremely common, last official tally was almost 1 third of young men technically qualify as incel and that was years ago. It's worse now.

There's a reason red pill youtube has exploded into the mainstream. Its incredibly common now but a lot of society wants to downplay it because they don't want to face having to solve it.
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Originally Posted By dusky99
The reason is 70% obesity rate among American females. Go to Eastern Europe and you see average guys with good looking women.
somewhat agree with this too. Means more guys chasing fewer viable options
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Don't really care. Let them wallow in their own life. Makes it easier for the rest of the guys who are actually worth their weight.
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Originally Posted By Slaydom
incel personalities are usually a product of their environment. like over-bearing immigrant parents, abusive parents, early exposure to drugs(legal and illegal), poverty upbringing(bad nutrition, stunted growth, low self esteem etc).



These people will never be popular or have status because their upbringing doomed them.
I think you've revealed a lot about yourself with this post brah.

My environment is a product of me. Not the other way around.
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Getting laid isn't the problem. It's keeping women loyal. They have too many options. Men built social systems around the fact that they could deprive their woman of those options in order to invest in them and their children with them. With that taken away, you get no kids being born because men don't trust sloots to not sloot on them, and sloots always think they can do better.

Until women are made property of men again, nothing will change.
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most people i see through work are married and most people i knew in highschool were married.

but there are a few cases where older coworkers are talkinga bout their sons where its likely they are an incel but the boomer doesnt know the terminology for it. one 40 year old dude that lived alone with a cat, he was prob an incel too.
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Every guy who socializes regularly gets poon. Guys who don't are mostly incels. It's their own fault but there are a lot of them. Just read youtube comments.
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Originally Posted By imbored21
Every guy who socializes regularly gets poon. Guys who don't are mostly incels. It's their own fault but there are a lot of them. Just read youtube comments.
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girls are different. I see even the most subhuman girls talking about their bf or how they once dated their teacher/boss.
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Originally Posted By PectoralBrah
I don’t think it was that that bad in 2010. I graduated high school in 2009, and plenty of girls told me I was cute and asked to go out with me, and in college a lot of girls would approach me at frat parties. I was like 5’6 120lbs in high school as well. Tinder is what really changed the game in 2012. It’s literally Chad or bust for most girls now.
guys have to settle hard now. It's so embarassing beeing seen in public with my Tinder matches man. I can't even imagine bringing one to my family. All my female family members are dating Chads lol.
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Originally Posted By yewotm8
Getting laid isn't the problem. It's keeping women loyal. They have too many options. Men built social systems around the fact that they could deprive their woman of those options in order to invest in them and their children with them. With that taken away, you get no kids being born because men don't trust sloots to not sloot on them, and sloots always think they can do better.

Until women are made property of men again, nothing will change.
Yikes strong misogyny
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Originally Posted By TomWanks
I think you've revealed a lot about yourself with this post brah.

My environment is a product of me. Not the other way around.
I have cousins from different branches of the family who come from similar economic backgrounds. The cousins who grew up in a loving environment turned out to be well-adjusted adults. The cousins from neglectful/abusive parents are all emotionally unstable.

The first few years of a child's life can have a dramatic impact. Some individuals might be able to overcome the environmental influence they experienced as a child, but most will not. It takes an individual with strong character to beat the odds.
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus
I have cousins from different branches of the family who come from similar economic backgrounds. The cousins who grew up in a loving environment turned out to be well-adjusted adults. The cousins from neglectful/abusive parents are all emotionally unstable.

The first few years of a child's life can have a dramatic impact. Some individuals might be able to overcome the environmental influence they experience they had as a child, but most will not. It takes an individual with strong character beat the odds.
my observation is all the females and CHads went on to get married/kids and live a normal life. All the average/ugly guys didn't make it or married a landwhale. :/
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Originally Posted By imbored21
my observation is all the females and CHads went on to get married/kids and live a normal life. All the average/ugly guys didn't make it or married a landwhale. :/
Simply being handsome may have been enough in 2020, but in 2021 and 2022, with so much skew in the sexual market place.... being handsome is just one of the minimum requirements. A dude would have to be at least 6'2" and millionaire status just to make the cut....

legalized prostitution wouldn't solve the incel problem.....only realistic sex robots and VR can return the SMP skew back to equilibrium.
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My old friends aren’t incels, many of them never became men. Some of them are successful (one actually won an Emmy for his work for his work), but a lot of them never got married and/or had a functional marriage. I think it might have been the decline of men in to more “primitive” mentalities. Conquerors, conquests, but a bit uncivilized.

If you have incel friends, it’s probably by Gods grace that you made it. Srs We are usually the average of those we surround ourselves with, I have found this to be true of n my own experiences
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I think most guys go through periods of being alone and single. On the other hand, most girls could easily set up a string of relationships from middle school to marriage with little effort. Can literally monkey branch from first kiss to first kid without being single for a second. Women definitely don't realize how different dating is for them. The whole "Easy mode" meme rings true in this area, at least in 1st world countries.
So not quite "Incel," but really a lot of people will think a dude is an incel or gay if he's single most of the time. Meanwhile if a woman is single most of the time, "She's living her BEST life! Yass qweeiin!"
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Originally Posted By PectoralBrah
I’m 30, and I have a lot of friends who I’ve known since high school who are incels. It’s their fault completely. They chose to play video games 24/7 and hang out on the internet. Suffice to say, internet’s a helluva drug
That isn’t always true. Some people who aren’t the best looking, and have an autistic personality can really struggle to naturally connect with women. Even if they try and put themselves in situations repeatedly.
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Originally Posted By CrimsonSteel
I think most guys go through periods of being alone and single. On the other hand, most girls could easily set up a string of relationships from middle school to marriage with little effort. Can literally monkey branch from first kiss to first kid without being single for a second. Women definitely don't realize how different dating is for them. The whole "Easy mode" meme rings true in this area, at least in 1st world countries.
So not quite "Incel," but really a lot of people will think a dude is an incel or gay if he's single most of the time. Meanwhile if a woman is single most of the time, "She's living her BEST life! Yass qweeiin!"
This is true, but I think women have a different set of obstacles than men. The most obvious is getting pregnant. The other is that the more men they rack up, the less desirable they are for an alpha. This is a natural human issue, because primitive man and male mammals are supposed to spread their seed, but female mammals only require the seed of one male. I don’t think the act applies today, but there is still an inherent and natural mindset that’s difficult to overcome. Our sex drive is extremely primitive and all you have to do is look at posts on misc to see this still applying after millions of years. Oof
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Originally Posted By TomWanks
I have a few incel friends, but it's almost 100% their fault. I also have friends at every level of social status, looks, height, etc. who get laid too.

Sloots are literally retarded children. Incels overcomplicate it by assigning them agency and critical thinking skills that they neither want not possess.
From my experience dealing with incels a lot of them not only overcomplicate it, they have a gross misunderstanding of women, thinking women are just like men. "Women can't be incels because they can get sick anytime they want" and so on

Don't get me wrong a lot of the things they bitch about do carry weight to them (divorce, dating game being ****ed, etc) but more often than not I seriously wonder how many of them even bother talking to women in the first place
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