I'll try and keep this post objective and not slip into the "woe is me" mindset that so many miscers have.

I can get interviews without much issues (15 or so out of 400-450 applications...which isn't terrible), and they go well (from my persepctive at least). I answer the interviewer's questions coherently and fully, providing examples where necessary. I take time to research the company. I ask relevant questions at the end of the interview.

However, it's just like a joke now. I am basically going into interviews 90% knowing that I've already failed. It's getting increasingly hard to stay positive with this revolving door of getting interview>researching company>dressing up and doing interview>getting the negative response the next day. It's frustrating as I am doing something wrong, I just can't work out what. I need to stress that the jobs I am applying for aren't CEO jobs that are outside of my skillset and experience. I wouldn't even apply if I felt that I wasn't qualified for the role.

I am working currently and have since age 19, so the "it's easier to get a new job if you have a job" reasoning does not seem to apply here.

Have any other miscers had a real struggle finding a new job and failing interview after interview? How did you finally break the pattern and climb out of the well?

maybe you can ask for specific feedback from the interviewer, as to the reason why they didn't go with you or what you did wrong. They might give you some bs answer but still it could give you some insight.

15 interviews is a lot mane ... unless you are just really unlucky, the industry you are trying to apply for is phucked up, at that point it seemslike it might be something you are doing. job hunts suck balls so much so I feel your pain, although I've never gotten rejected after 15 interviews. I don't think I've even had that many interviews in my life.

There's nothing really you can do but perhaps look at other industries/areas, attempt to get feedback from interviewers, etc. Maybe you are qualified for the job but you give off incel vibes IDK lol.

My friend there is alot of money out there if you put in the work.

Start moving lawns or cleaning getters , literally anything to avoid wage slaving .

But who was "labor shortage because nobody wants to work"?

Stem?

We have 0 clue what industry/field OP is in and the type of jobs he is looking for. Trying to use his situation as an illustration that there isn't a labor shortage, when there are all kinds of places struggling to find employees/are understaffed is dumb.

The feedback is somewhat mixed; we found a better fit, you are not a good fit, responses not detailed enough, didn't score high enough in test (this was BS as I was certain that I aced the test). Those are the ones I heard back from.

I really haven't had that experience for the most part. I guess it's situation-dependent. I have some skills and experience that are in fairly decent demand in my area, and a lot of companies are itching to hire someone ASAP.

However I will say there have been a few interviews where the person interviewing me (either the recruiter or the hiring manager) is being a real asswipe so I just 360 and walk out. A month later they're still posting the opening on linkedin. Huh...

What industry and state? I’m actively hiring right now in Louisiana.



Nvm just saw location as UK

Really need to know what the job position is. Sounds like it isn’t in very high demand.

Your average liberal logic.

I know what it's like I applied to well over 80 jobs and drove out to like 10 interviews before I finally snagged a job this month

They didn’t actually have openings, just wanted to see your stripper act for free.

I also assumed there are alot of job opportunities since no one now days wants to work. I'm assuming OP must be applying for CEO positions or something.

What’s your industry?

I feel like I’m good at interviews, so here’s my advice (I applied to maybe 20 places, got 3 interviews and offers on all 3 jobs. I wasn’t overqualified either).

1. Be charismatic and excited, especially in your tone of voice, even if you’re not naturally (I’m definitely not).

2. Be prepared. Pretty obvious one, but always wear atleast a shirt/tie, arrive 15 minutes early, have a notepad/pen and have paper copies of your resume (even with interviews via Zoom, still have one. That way if they start asking questions directly regarding your resume you have a quick reference what you put/how you worded it. You should have most of it memorized, but we all “blank” sometime.

3. Keep it on point. I know people who get asked “tell us about yourself” and then they ramble on about their life. Keep it 3/4 work related, 1/4 personal. For example: I’ve been an engineer at X company for Y years. I love learning, especially when it comes to AWS and Linux. Right now I’m studying for so-and-so certificate because I like being challenged. Aside from that, I lived in Z city and I have a German Shepherd dog.

4. Bring up side projects/personal goals. Talk about work you’ve done outside of your 9-5. Talk about certificates you’re trying to get. This shows ambition which is HUGE imo. (Or whatever is related to your field)

5. Understand the line of when you should be technical or not. You should be able to gauge your interviewer pretty early on. Are they an expert in the field or more HR-related. Moral of the story, don’t go into the nitty-gritty with someone who doesn’t understand what the fk you’re talking about.

6. Take notes and ask questions. Ask what technologies they use, etc. Since I don’t know your field it’s hard to structure questions about it. But I always end my interview with the same question, “I really appreciate the opportunity to interview, if there is one or two things that I should improve on or learn, what would they be”?

Hope that helps OP

Maybe it's dependent on the location and field of work, but from my experience companies are still pulling the same **** they usually pull as if they have all the leverage, even if they're struggling to fill positions.

Apply at a company where you actually know someone who works there. Unless they hate your guts, they'll rep you if referenced.

^Exactly what sooby said. ALWAYS ask for feedback from the interviewer. I've been explicitly told to ask for feedback from multiple recruiters over my career. Ask them "Is there anything you feel that could be holding me back from getting into this role?". It's so easy and let's the interviewer know that you're VERY interested in getting the job, without sounding desperate. Plus you can use the feedback in the next interview.

I've been going mainly for middle level admin roles roles in transport/haulage. Some outside of that, like business services.

Thanks for the responses guys. I will take it all on board.

its one of those weird things that need to be completely changed.
they care more about your social skills and eye contact (aka asskissing) more than your skills or experience

they have a checklist to follow and its not really up to them if they hire, its the check list

Literally the first thing Sooby mentioned, but probably the most important - Follow up with them, ask "is there anything I could have done better?" and "what made the other candidates stand out more?"

Since onboarding/hiring teams and most other business aspects in 2021 are assballs, you may not get a response or reason from them, but I would absolutely start following up and asking to see what they say.

You got anything that may come up as a red flag on a background check or past employment?

Ive been interviewing for 6 months.

I have had around 40 job interviews. I received 2 offers (and I rejected both of them) and I have been rejected the other 38 times.

Im interviewing for SaaS or Advertising Tech related sales roles and mid market to top companies in their respective fields like salesforce, oracle, etc.

Some interviews I flat out of bomb completely because I am unprepared and then I know why I get rejected. Other interviews I prepare for and feel like they went perfectly yet still get rejected.

Sometimes I think that interviewers just do not like me, and also I am 36... and I think that there is some agism as to why I am not getting hired. Honestly in my field I am applying to roles people in their mid twenties get.

None of these larger companies give feedback because A) They do not need to B) They may put them selves at risk for being sued C) The volume of applicants they are getting is too much of a workload.

I am going to keep trying but I need answers as well... its tough out there!

pay for an interview coach. a good one.

I've had 3 interviews and flopped all three LOL.

I got fired from a job in 2007. I have no criminal record and aren't on any 'bad lists' as far as I know. I have no debt issues, although I haven't really being going for financial roles, where they are more likely to check that kind of thing.

This thread is depressing.

The fact we have to dance like monkeys to work in a place that will take up our valuable free away from real connections such as family and solid friends shows we have our priorities wrong. We talk about social constructs, well corporate life is the biggest social construct and is clear proof of how dictators get in power. Everyone complies, we just smile and nod pretending we are excited for a job we are going to end up hating in about 6 months anyway.

Hire a coach, ask for feedback wtf?? the pseudo science behind hiring is amazing. The cognitive tests they make you go through are all lies, people will hire based on gut, past experience or because they know you. All you have to do is try to be more likeable and charismatic which is hard if you haven't got it. If you haven't got it then that just smile, be polite and listen to people when they talk and make them feel comfortable.

Everything to do w/job hunting sucks, and I don't really feel what I deal with/am used to lends itself to most people's situations, but...

There were times when I had to seek out jobs and it seemed no matter what I did, how kiss-assy I could become, how great I prepared, how many hoops I jumped through, nothing would land. Of course, the more you need something the harder it is to get, so once the right position came around I had no need for anything else for a while. I primarily do consulting work, and I get requests for interviews weekly to the point of being silly. Over the years I continued to take them even when I wasn't interested, because you never know how great something could be. Well, a few times that backfired and I ended up accepting the position on top of my existing position. Earlier this year I ended up with 2 offers at the same time, and currently juggle 4. Over the time there was noticeable difference in my own demeanor. Oddly, the more dismissive and confident I am with an "I don't need this ****, so don't waste my time" attitude, the better things seemed to go. In my rare situation, this is always true because I only take the gigs for extra $$. And these pay 6 figures each, not anything that is easily filled or have true candidates overflowing the inbox.

Would I have acted that way if I had nothing going on and the role was going to make or break my employment? I'd assume no, but the odds that these all worked out this way suggest I ought to. The recruiters I speak with know when they see the best candidates, which is usually me, and you know where you stand. Thinking back, the roles I got passed up for were either something I wasn't a perfect fit for anyway OR you could tell the place wanted someone they could exploit either with compensation, duties, or both.

I personally don't like to prepare and straight up tell the folks as much. I'm not reading the history of your company hoping to nail some pop quiz, sorry. I'll ask you what I want to know about applying my expertise to your business model, and you'll ask me what I can offer and where I fall short. The nature of my work doesn't follow a book and we always think on the fly, and that's how I like to interview. If they don't like it, that's their problem and I'll be fine elsewhere. The



Beyond practicing your interview demeanor and efforts, ensure your confidence BUT make sure it is 100% warranted. Don't be a dick, but don't come off as a chump. This is tough, I agree, as a fellow person who likes to please and do what it takes to get things moving. I've found that over the course of my career I need to worry about this less and it only helps if anything. You'd assume the opposite, but... I'm sure anything I say can be 100% for the wrong situation though, so take it all with a grain of salt. Not knowing your industry, experience, how you stack up against the candidate pool and how you can leverage your skills (how easy is it to evenFIND a "you"?), etc. makes all the difference. Me, I'm a top candidate across the entire country and the boost of remote work only exacerbates that so it almost handles itself.


I don't know how getting professional help will work out for you. I speak with lots of hiring committees, recruiters, etc. and try to get all I can from them. I've never taken anything away from anybody that I felt was worth noting. Not resume writers, interview coaches, hiring managers, nothing. This however is compared against all the knowledge I already had, so if you're quite freen with how to read everything related to hiring, etc. and haven't already thought/discussed it deeply, then perhaps it'd be much more helpful.

Have you tried a recruiter? I got most of my jobs via a recruiter or recruiting firm.

From my experience in a government job when our team was hiring people...

Most of the time they know who they will hire from within the company already even before the interview, and the 'open to the public' chit was just a formality. A lot of the time they won't hire the best person for the job but rather the guy who doesn't try as hard so he won't take your job.

I remember our boss would give us resumes to look over and we'd laugh at em and throw em in the bin and chit. Ended up hiring some weird kunt who didn't know chit.

So don't beat yourself up just keep applying, don't be so tryhard and just try and be personable instead. I've noticed people would rather work with a funny kunt than a professional srs.

People in my job that got promoted were the ones that went out to coffee and drinks and chit over the people who actually had crazy technical skillsets lol.

The "it's not about what you know, it's about who you know" isn't a meme and applies to the majority of office-type jobs.

just reading your misc posts i can tell that you give off bad vibes to people and they sense your weakness which is why nobody wants to give you a job..

I've had this happen before and it all comes down to how to feel about yourself, thus how you feel about other people and life, which is what people are picking up on.

Also IMO and experience, you cannot just leave a relationship which includes a job until the karma that has you tied to it is no longer - when the karma is resolved you'll just get let go or whatever and find your self in a new situation, living your karma.

Trust me brah. (SRS)