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post 1652710663 12-17-2021, 11:46 AM
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Optimus Omicron Prime Variant, time to finally get vaccine and boosters?

Omicron Threatens Red America
Tucker Carlson could do it. So could Laura Ingraham, Mark Levin or Donald Trump himself.

One of these conservative figures could go on the air and explain that the omicron variant has placed much of their audience in grave danger. They could remind people that they have been skeptical of vaccines at times — but that omicron is different. It is so contagious that it may quickly sweep the country.

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As they issued this warning, they could still take their usual swipes at the political left, mocking panicky liberals for wearing masks outdoors and forcing children to sit apart in cold schoolyards. Conservatives don’t need to do any of that. They just need to take a COVID-19 vaccine — the “Trump vaccine” that could save their life.

I don’t have any illusions about how likely this scenario is, but I do think that unvaccinated Americans — who are disproportionately Republican — are now in even more danger than a few weeks ago. Omicron seems to be qualitatively more contagious than any earlier variant.

In South Africa, omicron spread twice as fast as the highly infectious delta variant. In Britain, officials have estimated that 200,000 people are becoming infected with omicron every day. In Denmark, omicron cases are doubling roughly every two days.

‘Needlessly’

In the U.S., partisanship is the biggest factor determining vaccination rates. If Democratic voters made up their own country, it would be one of the world’s most vaccinated, with more than 91% of adults having received at least one shot. Only about 60% of Republican adults have done so.

This vaccination gap has created a huge gap in death rates, one that has grown sharply during the second half of the year.

COVID deaths in both swing counties and heavily Biden counties have not risen over the past two months, even as nationwide case numbers have surged, according to data from Charles Gaba, a health care analyst. In heavily vaccinated communities, rising caseloads don’t automatically lead to rising death tolls.

In hundreds of U.S. counties, though, most adults still have not received a COVID vaccine shot.

“Just since this summer, 150,000 unvaccinated Americans have needlessly lost their lives despite the widespread availability of vaccines,” Dr. Peter Hotez of the Baylor College of Medicine, in Houston, said Thursday.

Vaccine skepticism stems in part from messages on social media and conservative outlets like Fox News, the Sinclair Broadcast Group and talk radio. Pundits on these platforms often stop short of telling people not to get vaccinated, even as they send a general negative message about the shots.

They criticize vaccine mandates, sensationalize rare side effects and describe vaccination as a personal choice. They certainly do not deliver the clear message that scientists and Democratic politicians have: Get vaccinated, please, as soon as possible.

The fact that many conservative pundits are vaccinated themselves would make a pro-vaccine message from them even stronger. It would surely be more persuasive than anything that President Joe Biden, Dr. Anthony Fauci, Rochelle Walensky or a New York Times journalist could say.

Biden, at the White House on Thursday, tried his best, saying, “We are looking at a winter of severe illness and death if you’re unvaccinated.”

Less severe, more damage?

There is still a chance that omicron will be less bad than scientists fear. Some early evidence suggests it is less severe than earlier versions of the virus. And a substantial number of unvaccinated Americans have also had COVID before, giving them some level of immunity.

Still, unvaccinated people appear to be in real danger. For one thing, immunity wanes over time. For another, millions of adults have no immunity, having been neither vaccinated nor infected.

Finally, omicron appears to be so contagious that even a modest decline in severity — such as the decline estimated in an early analysis from South Africa — could still lead to a large spike in deaths, as Dr. Robert Wachter of the University of California, San Francisco, explained to me.

Some basic arithmetic makes the point: Imagine that the risk of death is 30% lower from an omicron case than a delta case — but that omicron leads to a tenfold increase in cases. This combination would lead to a substantial increase in deaths.

“It’s bad number times a decent number, and you end up with a bad number,” Wachter said.

For vaccinated Americans, omicron creates a complicated set of questions, including: When should I get boosted? (Now, experts say.) When should schools close? (Rarely.) How much should older people change their behavior? (It depends on their health, and it’s a vexing question regardless.)

For the unvaccinated, however, the best medical advice is clear: Get a shot that may save your life. The question is whether unvaccinated Americans will hear that message from the voices they trust.
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post 1652710743 12-17-2021, 11:47 AM
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post 1652710773 12-17-2021, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted By Azrairc
For the unvaccinated, however, the best medical advice is clear: Get a shot that may save your life
post 1652710883 12-17-2021, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted By volleys
post 1652711123 12-17-2021, 11:54 AM
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No

I’m pretty sure I have omicron - will find out in 30 mins

And it’s legit 1/5th as bad as the common cold and for me lasted 16 hours
post 1652711343 12-17-2021, 11:58 AM
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lol @ some chitty NYT column written by an equally chit "journalist"

"omicron is spreading needlessly"

meanwhile it was mostly the vaccinated that spread it due to vacations "DURING A PANDEMIC". Sounds like they did not do their part to slow the spread. Like what do they want, a magic wand to poof it all away or somehow if 100% of people were vaccinated this would all go away.

just lol.

imagine re-opening the issue of lockdowns and wanting to close down schools. now knowing the damage that it caused.
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post 1652711703 12-17-2021, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad
No

I’m pretty sure I have omicron - will find out in 30 mins

And it’s legit 1/5th as bad as the common cold and for me lasted 16 hours
arent you triple jabbed? how can this be? you wear a mask at home right?
post 1652711783 12-17-2021, 12:07 PM
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keep your blood clotting, heart inflammatory jab and i'll take my chances with the common cold
post 1652711803 12-17-2021, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus
arent you triple jabbed? how can this be? you wear a mask at home right?
No I’m double jabbed
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If you test positive, can you cough in an envelope and mail it to me?
Absolutely
post 1652711963 12-17-2021, 12:09 PM
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lol @you if you think I read that wall off text, kunt
post 1652712193 12-17-2021, 12:13 PM
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Get the vax and the 4 boosters or you'll risk getting the sniffles.

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post 1652712673 12-17-2021, 12:20 PM
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remember when people joked about he 8th booster but that will be here pretty soon
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post 1652713433 12-17-2021, 12:31 PM
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Alec Baldwin has killed more people than Omicron.
post 1652713953 12-17-2021, 12:38 PM
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Don’t understand why they’re using the same playbook (fear) to coerce people who didn’t get the jab to get the jab. If you still haven’t gotten the jab, fear has nothing to do with it.
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