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post 1652929813 12-21-2021, 10:57 AM
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Which would you hire?

Man and woman, both 30yo. Equally qualified for the job, both skilled and ambitious.

They wonโ€™t be working directly with you, but for your company in a critical position.

Do you flip a coin?
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post 1652929923 12-21-2021, 10:59 AM
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Woman. Theyโ€™re more reliable and wonโ€™t butt heads with me.
post 1652929943 12-21-2021, 10:59 AM
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Hire the one without kids or a drinking problem
post 1652929963 12-21-2021, 11:00 AM
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the female then threaten to to fire her to make her my sex slave
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post 1652929973 12-21-2021, 11:00 AM
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Depends, possibly the man because i wouldn't wanna get stung by that maternity leave nomsayn
post 1652930073 12-21-2021, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted By SeymourGains⏩
Whichever is crippled or a minority, preferably both
Gl ever being able to fire them
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post 1652930093 12-21-2021, 11:02 AM
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Doesnt matter I'm firing both of them day 1
post 1652930223 12-21-2021, 11:04 AM
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The man. He will be less trouble and will just do the work without drama.
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post 1652930283 12-21-2021, 11:04 AM
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Depends on their mentality (ambitious is not enough... I would wanna know how they would react under pressure etc...).

If after talking to them I can't tell who has the better "mentality", then it would depend on the job characteristics.


If job is "neutral" (example: IT programmer - he/she will not have high pressure moments, he/she will not have to deal with the public etc ), then, the man. (cuz no pregnancy)
post 1652931123 12-21-2021, 11:16 AM
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When you consider all things that should be weighed to determine "qualification" it would be virtually impossible to come out "equal"
One has to have an edge on the other in one of the many factors

Perhaps the decision maker isnt looking deep enough?
post 1652931273 12-21-2021, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted By GODself⏩
Depends on their mentality (ambitious is not enough... I would wanna know how they would react under pressure etc...).

If after talking to them I can't tell who has the better "mentality", then it would depend on the job characteristics.


If job is "neutral" (example: IT programmer - he/she will not have high pressure moments, he/she will not have to deal with the public etc ), then, the man. (cuz no pregnancy)
IT programming is not "neutral". Often times these programmers will need to work in a team as well as collaborate with other teams to get the software just right.
post 1652931403 12-21-2021, 11:19 AM
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Please never run a small business if you pick the woman in this situation. Much more likely to be forking out maternity leave pay, and dealing with the absence.

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Next question: you have limited resources for airport security, 2 people are going through security and you can only properly check one of them. One is an old woman, and one is a young middle eastern man. Do you flip a coin?
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post 1652931443 12-21-2021, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted By donblaximus⏩
When you consider all things that should be weighed to determine "qualification" it would be virtually impossible to come out "equal"
One has to have an edge on the other in one of the many factors

Perhaps the decision makerisnt looking deep enough?
I see what you did there
post 1652931473 12-21-2021, 11:21 AM
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Hire the woman so you can sexually harass her; plus you'll automatically get to pay her less. Win! Bonus points if you can get her to blow you on Fridays.
post 1652931483 12-21-2021, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted By donblaximus⏩
IT programming is not "neutral". Often times these programmers will need to work in a team as well as collaborate with other teams to get the software just right.
Depends on the work. If they need to do team work, then id hire the man.
post 1652931613 12-21-2021, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted By donblaximus⏩
When you consider all things that should be weighed to determine "qualification" it would be virtually impossible to come out "equal"
One has to have an edge on the other in one of the many factors

Perhaps the decision maker isnt looking deep enough?
Letโ€™s all try not to be autistic for the sake of this thought experiment. Thank you.
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post 1652931653 12-21-2021, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
Please never run a small business if you pick the woman in this situation. Much more likely to be forking out maternity leave pay, and dealing with the absence.

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Next question: you have limited resources for airport security, 2 people are going through security and you can only properly check one of them. One is an old woman, and one is a young middle eastern man. Do you flip a coin?
Would pick the man. Kinda obvious that one.
post 1652931813 12-21-2021, 11:26 AM
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The man easily if all else is equal. Iโ€™ve managed enough men and women to know that women are usually more trouble. If they do a good job they usually get too big for their pants and act as if they should be calling shots and controlling others. They also start a lot of drama and snitch on every little thing. Itโ€™s not always the case but more so than men ime.
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post 1652931893 12-21-2021, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted By EagleOfWar⏩
The man easily if all else is equal. Iโ€™ve managed enough men and women to know that women are usually more trouble. If they do a good job they usually get too big for their pants and act as if they should be calling shots and controlling others. They also start a lot of drama and snitch on every little thing. Itโ€™s not always the case but more so than men ime.
This. All the problems I had on my previous jobs were with women.
post 1652931903 12-21-2021, 11:27 AM
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the least white or least straight one. need to conform to weimerica's diversity requirements
post 1652932123 12-21-2021, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted By Leonydus⏩
the least white or least straight one. need to conform to weimerica's diversity requirements
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
Letโ€™s all try not to be autistic for the sake of this thought experiment. Thank you.
What's autistic is asking a question just so someone else can tell you an answer you want to hear.
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post 1652935423 12-21-2021, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted By GODself⏩
Depends on the work. If they need to do team work, then id hire the man.
I believe someone's ability to work in a team environment is more based on an individual level.
post 1652935453 12-21-2021, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
Letโ€™s all try not to be autistic for the sake of this thought experiment. Thank you.
Hehe ok but I never understood the use of time towards pontification of non real world scenarios.

What is the value in these types of exercises? Im seriously open to understanding. My brain just doesn't work that way.
post 1652935593 12-21-2021, 12:23 PM
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Men are a lot less of a liability in 2021, so theres that..
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Statistically who takes the least amount of time off?

There's your answer.
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Originally Posted By donblaximus⏩
Hehe ok but I never understood the use of time towards pontification of non real world scenarios.

What is the value in these types of exercises? Im seriously open to understanding. My brain just doesn't work that way.
Fun thought experiments on discrimination, highlighting instances where itโ€™s generally rational to discriminate but unfair on the particular individual.

Another example is police stopping young black men more than any other demographic, given statistically higher likelihood of crime.
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Originally Posted By monster0ultra⏩
I want to agree with this because people in diversity hire roles make my life hell (project managers, "scrummasters", and their ilk).

But, the average asian female coder is better than the average white male coder, just saying.
Odd, I have two close friends, both programmers and both lived in China for several years and they tell me the exact opposite. Maybe they're just hiring better people?
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Originally Posted By monster0ultra⏩
I want to agree with this because people in diversity hire roles make my life hell (project managers, "scrummasters", and their ilk).

But, the average asian female coder is better than the average white male coder, just saying.
cant remember the last time i met an asian female coder. 9 times of out 10, its an asian dude, an indian dude, or a white dude.
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