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01-16-2022, 07:17 PM
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Vid explains in under 5 mins how the CV injections are softkill genocide
"The reason we are being murdered with genetic altering drugs is its slow acting and it causes your body to malfunction and destroy itself so there is a "plausible deniability" factor. Unlike most poisons which leave more evidence of being the direct cause of death."
1,151+ pages of peoples accounts of Covid-19 vaccine damage:
https://vestibular.org/forum/dizziness/covid-19-vaccine-side-effects/
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01-16-2022, 07:26 PM
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Just 10 more years….
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01-16-2022, 07:26 PM
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01-16-2022, 07:35 PM
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But you'll click on youtube and other anti free speech social media endlessly. Give em a click.
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01-16-2022, 07:50 PM
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There are those of us who are anti vax because of personal freedom and the vaccines being ineffective, and there are nutjobs like OP that think the vaccines have prions and nanites that will sterile and kill the population. The media tries to lump us all in together thanks to *******s like OP.
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01-16-2022, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted By otisthebat⏩
Dont call yourself anti vax if you're just reluctant to take one emergency approved jab that the makers will only sell on the condition of absolute legal immunity
There are those of us who are anti vax because of personal freedom and the vaccines being ineffective, and there are nutjobs like OP that think the vaccines have prions and nanites that will sterile and kill the population. The media tries to lump us all in together thanks to *******s like OP.
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01-16-2022, 08:20 PM
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OP please stop posting, live life, and don't worry about politics. You are off the deep end with conspiracy theories and I mean this in as nice a way as possible. I would much rather have you as a neighbor than a liberal who wants everything banned and high taxes.
Just go outside and stay off the internet for a year or so.
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01-16-2022, 08:27 PM
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Dont listen to them OPIE keep up the good fight. As your fighting the good fight you will have nay sayers and you know who else did? Jesus of Nazareth
01-16-2022, 08:59 PM
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Dose one and two are the same, aren't they? And so is the booster from what I've seen.
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01-16-2022, 09:11 PM
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Where are the animal studies for the Phizer & Moderna?
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01-16-2022, 09:13 PM
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I think as of now people on the forum don't even read any opposing argument, no matter how cogently or politely presented, or how thoroughly researched, or how scientifically literate.
There's not one anti-vaxx argument, from either a loony or reasonably cautious person, that I personally haven't dealt with at length and rigour. If you don't believe me, then present your concern here and I'll address it.
There's not one anti-vaxx argument, from either a loony or reasonably cautious person, that I personally haven't dealt with at length and rigour. If you don't believe me, then present your concern here and I'll address it.
Back off, Warchild.
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01-16-2022, 09:39 PM
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How does she know this? Sounds like it’s just her theory. Whether this is the depopulation move or not, the elites have stated there should be 500 million - 1 billion people on the planet.
At the very least we are biotech test subjects for the fourth industrial revolution.
At the very least we are biotech test subjects for the fourth industrial revolution.
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01-16-2022, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
I'm concerned with the repeated "Booster Shots" being mandated. I've had my 2 and now I'm already paying the price with being extremely fatique & can't breath. Prior to being "Vaxxed" I was running 8k every 2-3 days, now I can't do jack.
I think as of now people on the forum don't even read any opposing argument, no matter how cogently or politely presented, or how thoroughly researched, or how scientifically literate.
There's not one anti-vaxx argument, from either a loony or reasonably cautious person, that I personally haven't dealt with at length and rigour. If you don't believe me, then present your concern here and I'll address it.
There's not one anti-vaxx argument, from either a loony or reasonably cautious person, that I personally haven't dealt with at length and rigour. If you don't believe me, then present your concern here and I'll address it.
Interestingly. I work in a gym, and noticed this is 90% of trainers & clients gassing out.
I for one, is getting terrified as repeated boosters feel like it will be the end of me.
Anti-dependent- enhancment/ Inmune fatique is a real thing. Over for what "OMICRON"?
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01-16-2022, 10:26 PM
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Oh no sounds cereal
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01-16-2022, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted By BlackHeart.au⏩
I'm concerned with the repeated "Booster Shots" being mandated. I've had my 2 and now I'm already paying the price with being extremely fatique & can't breath. Prior to being "Vaxxed" I was running 8k every 2-3 days, now I can't do jack.
Interestingly. I work in a gym, and noticed this is 90% of trainers & clients gassing out.
I for one, is getting terrified as repeated boosters feel like it will be the end of me.
Anti-dependent- enhancment/ Inmune fatique is a real thing. Over for what "OMICRON"?
Interestingly. I work in a gym, and noticed this is 90% of trainers & clients gassing out.
I for one, is getting terrified as repeated boosters feel like it will be the end of me.
Anti-dependent- enhancment/ Inmune fatique is a real thing. Over for what "OMICRON"?
Remember the maxim I post often whenever this topic comes up: Whatever the vaccine can do, the virus can do, and worse. Besides everything about previous mRNA vaccines being safe, there's not really a biological plausibility for mRNA vaccines to really do any long-term damage. They are absolutely minimal in composition and that is one of the major reasons I commend them.
The vaccine can't enter the cell nucleus to alter the DNA where it could potentially do serious damage. Then, mRNA is quite a volatile compound. It degrades quickly which is why it must be kept at low temperatures, and the short life of the compound plus its inability to enter the nucleus really rules out any potential for long-term damage.
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01-17-2022, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted By dakensta⏩
Yesterday, 09:17 PM
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01-17-2022, 12:54 AM
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This is prob the worst evidence I've seen posted on the misc against the vax lol
01-17-2022, 01:07 AM
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01-17-2022, 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted By LizzieTish⏩
Natural health doctor.
Seems to jump to a lot of conclusions here and I'm not sure where she is getting her information about the boosters. I don't think it's also playing out anything like her predictions there.
However, on the claims the vaccine somehow inhibits white blood cell production, I've seen one doctor actually test a patient before and after, with it being diminished after the vaccine. Seems like that would be easy to test and figure out, though. Makes me think more people by now, almost a year later, would have been able to show this.
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01-17-2022, 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted By mikebadg3⏩
Yep it’s all fun a games until a thread like this is posted and then the laughing stops.
Dont listen to them OPIE keep up the good fight. As your fighting the good fight you will have nay sayers and you know who else did? Jesus of Nazareth
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01-17-2022, 05:40 AM
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I don't trust the covid injections at all, but this video is ridiculous. A self proclaimed "natural doctor" says that the shots contain bacteria and hiv, and doesn't give a source? Seems legit…
01-17-2022, 03:59 PM
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https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/i...on-cases-up-60
Intracranial infection cases up 60-fold since vaccines rolled out
Steve Kirsch
Jan 15
"But it can't be caused by the vaccines, masks, or swabs since all are "safe and effective" according to the CDC. My experts think it is all 3. Infectious disease docs say nothing is wrong, ignore it.
I got the message below from one of my followers. It’s an anecdote, but it is not an isolated incident as you’ll agree from reading the comments. A 60-fold increase in intracranial infections (5/month vs. 1 per year). Nobody can figure out why. Only started happening after the vaccines rolled out.
You won’t hear of this since the surgeons aren’t going to speak out since they’ll lose their license (as noted in the message). That doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.
Steve, I got this message from my neurosurgeon friend…
“I just took care of an 11-year-old African American cheerleader (she is a “flyer” which means she is the person who is lifted up into the air during a stunt; they are usually very strong and have excellent balance while in the air) in amazing health who had a headache. She got worse and mother brought her to my hospital. She was in a coma and had a brain abscess. I had to put a tube in her head to save her life. Pure pus from her head…. And MRI showed a brain abscess as well as sinusitis, and she had a tooth infection.”
So I called my friend (the anti-Vax NS) and said WTF: she said she operated in 5 kids like this in the past month! We see normally one a year. We both said at the same time, “Masks!”
So I wrote to another ped NS friend in the Midwest and this is what he just sent me:
“Yes, it is raining intracranial infections here. We just did one and have done 10-12 since October. This is weird as it’s the wrong season for them. We get them in spring and only a sprinkling of them. ENT is having a similar issue with severe sinusitis’s in kiddies. We asked ID and they just shrug their shoulders”. [Ed note: ID is short for infectious disease ]
Steve, I asked my neurosurgeon friend to call you as she is still pro vaccine despite what she is seeing with her own eyes, but she is afraid that she could jeopardize her license. The other NS recently got fired for not getting the jab, so maybe she would speak with you. Thank you.
Masks? Vaccine? COVID test swabs stuck up your nose? All three?
The vaccination status of the patients wasn’t known (since we all know that the COVID vaccines never cause any bad effects, the physicians didn’t bother to ask such irrelevant questions).
According to my neurologist, the most likely cause is the vaccine, but masks could also be implicated (sinus infection that goes to the brain). She gave it 60:40 odds, where 60% it is the vaccine, 40% it is masks. Then I asked her about the COVID test swabs they stick up your nose and she said, “YES, that is a huge possibility.”
In short, it can be a combination of things. The vaccine weakens your immune system, the masking and/or swabs can initiate the infection, and perfect storm time… you get the result we see today.
In reading the comments, it’s also a mixed bag. Some implicate masks, others the vaccine (since it crosses the BBB and can cause inflammation). But it could potentially be PCR tests as well if you get a swab placed up your nose all the way.
Of course the CDC is never going to tell you any of this.
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I was hypothesizing with the Mrs. I think it may be all 3.
In the lab, we saw in increase of unusual organisms on sinus infection and throat infection cultures pre-vaccine. We cultured several masks and grew several diverse organisms and environmental pathogens.
So, first, we know the masks were/are a breeding ground for an atypical mix/ratio of microbes, where they don’t belong.
Second- you and I well know that the vaccines alter the immune system’s ability to fight off many organisms. T cell and till like receptor dysregulation, lead to a weaken of our innate immune response.
Third- add to the perfect storm, of wrong flora, in the wrong location, a trauma to the nasal mucosa, allowing those organisms into a broken small vessel, adjacent to the olfactory bulb. The fatty rich nerve sheath gets secondarily colonized and allows the organisms to now climb into the usually sterile intra cranial space causing abscesses.
Children normally have a strong innate immune response. It is altered after the shots.
Kelli (the Mrs.) being reasonably mask compliant (probably microbially shifted in her flora), had a tech that ramroded her sinus and caused bleeding for our last Maui trip, where you and I spoke. After that, she had a persistent gasoline smell. She and I had Covid a month ago. While in the antibiotic azithromycin, her smell returned to normal. She has had to mask for a few things recently and the gasoline smell is returning (naso biome microbial bad shift again).
I think the cause can be one and two, two and three, or all three.
I would like to know from the neurosurgeons what organism(s) were cultured and grew from the abscess in each case, and assess the commonalities and differences of the microbial milieu.
The study would be-
Culture the throat and sinuses, to assess the microbial flora, of age controlled cohorts of
- non maskers
- persistent compliant unvaccinated maskers (Such as a school district that requires them)
-compliant vaccinated maskers.
Compare the results to the organisms reported in the cases you presented from the docs and surgeons.
Something is indeed rotten in state of “the neuronal vaults of” Denmark.
Comments from doctors
Retired neurosurgeon wrote:
We need more data re this.
Brain abscess is typically a bacterial infection, and often can be related to otitis/ oral cavity infection. It can also be fungal. My guess is that if indeed there is an uptick in cases, the vaccine itself is unlikely to be a direct culprit; more likely some environmental factor, or potentially masking, if that can be shown to actually somehow be increasing cases of otitis media, or oropharyngeal infections, tooth decay, etc. Masking obviously is ineffective in mitigating upper respiratory dz transmission, but it's actual harmfulness in the general healthy population running around with their faces covered with cloth beaks emblazoned with icons and butterflies, alone in their cars, and in supermarkets, etc, half off their nose, is hard to prove conclusively.
Brain abscess used to be more common a few decades ago, and has steadily decreased in frequency. We image people much sooner, and hygiene, in general, has improved. I do agree the CDC has proven quite unreliable, an understatement, in so many ways. If there is an increased incidence, it will probably be in the CDC data, they just may well not call attention to it, and hope it goes under the radar.
ER doc wrote:
I called this out a year ago. Seems like so many patients were coming into the clinic with "sinusitis" - patients tend to overcall head congestion with a cold as sinusitis, but so many patients with the same complaint. I said I thought it was the masks but everyone shrugged it off. We know that anytime there is obstruction of normal outflow from the body, bacteria tend to colonize that area. And in a few unlucky people an infection can spread. I have never seen a brain abscess in someone who was not immunocompromised or an IV drug user. It can occur with protozoal infection but very rare in US. When you mess with Mother Nature, there are consequences. There's a reason the Greeks saw hubris as a fatal character flaw."
Intracranial infection cases up 60-fold since vaccines rolled out
Steve Kirsch
Jan 15
"But it can't be caused by the vaccines, masks, or swabs since all are "safe and effective" according to the CDC. My experts think it is all 3. Infectious disease docs say nothing is wrong, ignore it.
I got the message below from one of my followers. It’s an anecdote, but it is not an isolated incident as you’ll agree from reading the comments. A 60-fold increase in intracranial infections (5/month vs. 1 per year). Nobody can figure out why. Only started happening after the vaccines rolled out.
You won’t hear of this since the surgeons aren’t going to speak out since they’ll lose their license (as noted in the message). That doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.
Steve, I got this message from my neurosurgeon friend…
“I just took care of an 11-year-old African American cheerleader (she is a “flyer” which means she is the person who is lifted up into the air during a stunt; they are usually very strong and have excellent balance while in the air) in amazing health who had a headache. She got worse and mother brought her to my hospital. She was in a coma and had a brain abscess. I had to put a tube in her head to save her life. Pure pus from her head…. And MRI showed a brain abscess as well as sinusitis, and she had a tooth infection.”
So I called my friend (the anti-Vax NS) and said WTF: she said she operated in 5 kids like this in the past month! We see normally one a year. We both said at the same time, “Masks!”
So I wrote to another ped NS friend in the Midwest and this is what he just sent me:
“Yes, it is raining intracranial infections here. We just did one and have done 10-12 since October. This is weird as it’s the wrong season for them. We get them in spring and only a sprinkling of them. ENT is having a similar issue with severe sinusitis’s in kiddies. We asked ID and they just shrug their shoulders”. [Ed note: ID is short for infectious disease ]
Steve, I asked my neurosurgeon friend to call you as she is still pro vaccine despite what she is seeing with her own eyes, but she is afraid that she could jeopardize her license. The other NS recently got fired for not getting the jab, so maybe she would speak with you. Thank you.
Masks? Vaccine? COVID test swabs stuck up your nose? All three?
The vaccination status of the patients wasn’t known (since we all know that the COVID vaccines never cause any bad effects, the physicians didn’t bother to ask such irrelevant questions).
According to my neurologist, the most likely cause is the vaccine, but masks could also be implicated (sinus infection that goes to the brain). She gave it 60:40 odds, where 60% it is the vaccine, 40% it is masks. Then I asked her about the COVID test swabs they stick up your nose and she said, “YES, that is a huge possibility.”
In short, it can be a combination of things. The vaccine weakens your immune system, the masking and/or swabs can initiate the infection, and perfect storm time… you get the result we see today.
In reading the comments, it’s also a mixed bag. Some implicate masks, others the vaccine (since it crosses the BBB and can cause inflammation). But it could potentially be PCR tests as well if you get a swab placed up your nose all the way.
Of course the CDC is never going to tell you any of this.
Message from Dr. Ryan Cole
I was hypothesizing with the Mrs. I think it may be all 3.
In the lab, we saw in increase of unusual organisms on sinus infection and throat infection cultures pre-vaccine. We cultured several masks and grew several diverse organisms and environmental pathogens.
So, first, we know the masks were/are a breeding ground for an atypical mix/ratio of microbes, where they don’t belong.
Second- you and I well know that the vaccines alter the immune system’s ability to fight off many organisms. T cell and till like receptor dysregulation, lead to a weaken of our innate immune response.
Third- add to the perfect storm, of wrong flora, in the wrong location, a trauma to the nasal mucosa, allowing those organisms into a broken small vessel, adjacent to the olfactory bulb. The fatty rich nerve sheath gets secondarily colonized and allows the organisms to now climb into the usually sterile intra cranial space causing abscesses.
Children normally have a strong innate immune response. It is altered after the shots.
Kelli (the Mrs.) being reasonably mask compliant (probably microbially shifted in her flora), had a tech that ramroded her sinus and caused bleeding for our last Maui trip, where you and I spoke. After that, she had a persistent gasoline smell. She and I had Covid a month ago. While in the antibiotic azithromycin, her smell returned to normal. She has had to mask for a few things recently and the gasoline smell is returning (naso biome microbial bad shift again).
I think the cause can be one and two, two and three, or all three.
I would like to know from the neurosurgeons what organism(s) were cultured and grew from the abscess in each case, and assess the commonalities and differences of the microbial milieu.
The study would be-
Culture the throat and sinuses, to assess the microbial flora, of age controlled cohorts of
- non maskers
- persistent compliant unvaccinated maskers (Such as a school district that requires them)
-compliant vaccinated maskers.
Compare the results to the organisms reported in the cases you presented from the docs and surgeons.
Something is indeed rotten in state of “the neuronal vaults of” Denmark.
Comments from doctors
Retired neurosurgeon wrote:
We need more data re this.
Brain abscess is typically a bacterial infection, and often can be related to otitis/ oral cavity infection. It can also be fungal. My guess is that if indeed there is an uptick in cases, the vaccine itself is unlikely to be a direct culprit; more likely some environmental factor, or potentially masking, if that can be shown to actually somehow be increasing cases of otitis media, or oropharyngeal infections, tooth decay, etc. Masking obviously is ineffective in mitigating upper respiratory dz transmission, but it's actual harmfulness in the general healthy population running around with their faces covered with cloth beaks emblazoned with icons and butterflies, alone in their cars, and in supermarkets, etc, half off their nose, is hard to prove conclusively.
Brain abscess used to be more common a few decades ago, and has steadily decreased in frequency. We image people much sooner, and hygiene, in general, has improved. I do agree the CDC has proven quite unreliable, an understatement, in so many ways. If there is an increased incidence, it will probably be in the CDC data, they just may well not call attention to it, and hope it goes under the radar.
ER doc wrote:
I called this out a year ago. Seems like so many patients were coming into the clinic with "sinusitis" - patients tend to overcall head congestion with a cold as sinusitis, but so many patients with the same complaint. I said I thought it was the masks but everyone shrugged it off. We know that anytime there is obstruction of normal outflow from the body, bacteria tend to colonize that area. And in a few unlucky people an infection can spread. I have never seen a brain abscess in someone who was not immunocompromised or an IV drug user. It can occur with protozoal infection but very rare in US. When you mess with Mother Nature, there are consequences. There's a reason the Greeks saw hubris as a fatal character flaw."
"The reason we are being murdered with genetic altering drugs is its slow acting and it causes your body to malfunction and destroy itself so there is a "plausible deniability" factor. Unlike most poisons which leave more evidence of being the direct cause of death."
1,151+ pages of peoples accounts of Covid-19 vaccine damage:
https://vestibular.org/forum/dizziness/covid-19-vaccine-side-effects/
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01-17-2022, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Pterodactyl314⏩
Batsh*t insane conspiracy theory according to Mr Beer.
Yep it’s all fun a games until a thread like this is posted and then the laughing stops.
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...post1654219623
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...post1654219623
Originally Posted By Mr Beer⏩
Oh no sounds cereal
This is the shocking condition of the blood of her (Pfizer) vaccinated 17 yr old son also about 36 HOURS after being drawn on December 17, 2021. Notice the edges and cracks, clumping, coloring and sedimentation. The light coming through the bottom of the glass is making the surface cracks appear white. Look between the 6 and 8 o'clock position and you can easily see the long dark strands coming inward toward the center of the sample. Get a magnifying glass and you'll see how each end of the strands is curved. Conditions of low oxygen, high iron and high protein in such a sample of dried blood are ideal for the growth pathogenic organisms. To the best of our knowledge these photos illustrate the condition of the blood in nearly all vaxed people. It is a wonder that the heart can continue to push this virtually useless sludge through the body. This likely won't last for long.
Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi: Organs of dead vaccinated persons proves auto immune attack
https://odysee.com/@townofdanforthmaine:3/DrBhacktii:2
The fact that all these bioweapon pushers worldwide are still breathing is a testament to the abject stupidity/disbelief of actual reality of the vast majority globally.
"The reason we are being murdered with genetic altering drugs is its slow acting and it causes your body to malfunction and destroy itself so there is a "plausible deniability" factor. Unlike most poisons which leave more evidence of being the direct cause of death."
1,151+ pages of peoples accounts of Covid-19 vaccine damage:
https://vestibular.org/forum/dizziness/covid-19-vaccine-side-effects/
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01-17-2022, 06:48 PM
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If a Ctard like LizzieTish says something, my confidence that the opposite is true increases.
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01-17-2022, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted By LizzieTish⏩
Yeah amazing how we've spent the last 2 years injecting ~5 billion people around the world with a poison that functionally destroys their blood within hours but somehow we don't have 100s of millions of dead people as a result.
Batsh*t insane conspiracy theory according to Mr Beer.
This is the shocking condition of the blood of her (Pfizer) vaccinated 17 yr old son also about 36 HOURS after being drawn on December 17, 2021. Notice the edges and cracks, clumping, coloring and sedimentation. The light coming through the bottom of the glass is making the surface cracks appear white. Look between the 6 and 8 o'clock position and you can easily see the long dark strands coming inward toward the center of the sample. Get a magnifying glass and you'll see how each end of the strands is curved. Conditions of low oxygen, high iron and high protein in such a sample of dried blood are ideal for the growth pathogenic organisms. To the best of our knowledge these photos illustrate the condition of the blood in nearly all vaxed people. It is a wonder that the heart can continue to push this virtually useless sludge through the body. This likely won't last for long.
This is the shocking condition of the blood of her (Pfizer) vaccinated 17 yr old son also about 36 HOURS after being drawn on December 17, 2021. Notice the edges and cracks, clumping, coloring and sedimentation. The light coming through the bottom of the glass is making the surface cracks appear white. Look between the 6 and 8 o'clock position and you can easily see the long dark strands coming inward toward the center of the sample. Get a magnifying glass and you'll see how each end of the strands is curved. Conditions of low oxygen, high iron and high protein in such a sample of dried blood are ideal for the growth pathogenic organisms. To the best of our knowledge these photos illustrate the condition of the blood in nearly all vaxed people. It is a wonder that the heart can continue to push this virtually useless sludge through the body. This likely won't last for long.
Oh no sounds super cereal.
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01-17-2022, 09:48 PM
#26
Originally Posted By Mr Beer⏩
We just have a massive uptick in cancer and heart disease
Yeah amazing how we've spent the last 2 years injecting ~5 billion people around the world with a poison that functionally destroys their blood within hours but somehow we don't have 100s of millions of dead people as a result.
Oh no sounds super cereal.
Oh no sounds super cereal.
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01-17-2022, 10:23 PM
#27
Originally Posted By BlackHeart.au⏩
Cool. My point is that if COVID vaccines destroy blood function within hours, then more than half of the world's population would be dead by now.
We just have a massive uptick in cancer and heart disease
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01-18-2022, 06:20 AM
#28
Originally Posted By A-GAME⏩
They are, work in hospital here and everything is the same in terms of vials and diluent for the vaccine, there’s no dose 1 or 2 vials they all the same **** except the booster is given at half the dose
Dose one and two are the same, aren't they? And so is the booster from what I've seen.
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01-18-2022, 08:17 AM
#29
Originally Posted By Mr Beer⏩
I think there exists a possibility that the truth may lie somewhere between his stance and (not necessarily yours) those who demand it's perfectly safe and harmless.
Cool. My point is that if COVID vaccines destroy blood function within hours, then more than half of the world's population would be dead by now.
I fear there will be increased long-term issues, cancer/heart/autoimmune. I won't even speculate how much - but where do we draw the line there? What increase is acceptable for a leaky vaccine that offers a handful of months of decreased danger to a virus that only threatens a very specific sub-group of Americans/people?
For me - the line is pretty firm in that for what is being offered - there should be almost no danger. Especially since a LOT of people were told there was no danger and that it is being mandated on people, forcing them to take it whether they need it or not.
Unfortunately, it's not easy to determine where we are at right now. VAERS has had a massive uptick with this rollout. Tons of empirical stories about healthy people dropping from heart attacks. At the same time - there are those who are wildly against these vaccines and likely pumping out overzealous or outright false anti-vaccine narratives.
So, I do have to speculate here more, which I dislike doing, but looking at where we are right now?
- The vaccine is not particularly helpful for many Americans
- It is being forced on many, worse in other countries
- At the roll out, there was misinformation about it's safety
- Currently, there is massive censorship around this and only the pro-Pfizer/vaccine narrative is allowed
- Many unverified or uncertain stories about it being dangerous
- Anyone discussing alternative methods is censored/attacked, even Doctors and the inventor of mRNA technology (not just Joe Rogans)
My best guess – we are well past the point that it's past the line I drew a few paragraphs before. What tips me over - the mandates, the push for EVERYONE to get it, the lack of actual scientific debate/discussion, the censorship or alternative non-vaccine treatments.
I do not trust these people. I do not think there should be very much danger at all to justify them and I strongly suspect we are way past that point, that whatever danger they represent it is far more than it should be and I fear the future is even worse, that over time more negatives will be speculated about or found out about, if anyone is allowed to even discuss them openly.
I will remind everyone, or anyone still reading – whatever benefits the gene therapy offers - it wanes. If it does decrease bad health problems or if covid is a greater threat of heart issues, you get that benefit for a finite time. 4-6 months at most, the way it looks now and likely none for new variants.
What is that honestly worth? 4-6 months of some level of protection? That doesn't add up to very much for me and I would say the threat of the vaccine, which like you I do not think is killing millions, but as rare as they are – 4-6m of protection is probably not worth it and almost assuredly for many who covid represents a non-threat in the first place.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
- Arthur Schopenhauer
01-18-2022, 08:19 AM
#30
Originally Posted By BlackHeart.au⏩
Some of that is from lock down policies preventing people from getting preventative check ups
We just have a massive uptick in cancer and heart disease
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