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We are living under technofeudalism (VID) this IS the great reset. Capitalism is OVER
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Technomonopolies and central banking have replaced capitalism with a system of techmonopolies that control absolutely everything and have everyone enslaved.
Its over for everyone.
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
Capitalism has always been the better alternative, that is why authoritarians hate it.Yanis is based as fuk. Chit cant believe capitalism was a better alternative to this crap.
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Originally Posted By JayJ350⏩
Doesn't matter that much now that it's been replaced. Look at what he said about the GDP collapse in GB and the stock exchange, he's spot on about big tech having unpresedented fiefdoms of absoulte control.Capitalism has always been the better alternative, that is why authoritarians hate it.
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
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Technomonopolies and central banking have replaced capitalism with a system of techmonopolies that control absolutely everything and have everyone enslaved.
Its over for everyone.
When do I get to get cybernetic implants in this dystopian technomonopoly?Cliffs:
Technomonopolies and central banking have replaced capitalism with a system of techmonopolies that control absolutely everything and have everyone enslaved.
Its over for everyone.
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Do we all eat molly and dance for techno feudalism?
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gradually, surreptitiously, until one day the bulk of human relations were market-based and feudalism was swept away, so capitalism today is being toppled by a new economic mode: techno-feudalism.
This is a large claim that comes on the heels of many premature forecasts of capitalism’s demise, especially from the left. But this time it may well be true.
The clues have been visible for a while. Bond and share prices, which should be moving in sharply opposite directions, have been skyrocketing in unison, occasionally falling but always in lockstep. Similarly, the cost of capital (the return demanded to own a security) should be falling with volatility; instead, it has been rising as future returns become more uncertain.
Perhaps the clearest sign that something serious is afoot appeared on August 12 last year. On that day, we learned that, in the first seven months of 2020, the United Kingdom’s national income had tanked by over 20%, well above even the direst predictions. A few minutes later, the London Stock Exchange jumped by more than 2%. Nothing comparable had ever occurred. Finance had become fully decoupled from the real economy.
But do these unprecedented developments really mean that we no longer live under capitalism? After all, capitalism has undergone fundamental transformations before. Should we not simply prepare ourselves for its latest incarnation? No, I do not think so. What we are experiencing is not merely another metamorphosis of capitalism. It is something more profound and worrisome.
Yes, capitalism has undergone extreme makeovers at least twice since the late nineteenth century. Its first major transformation, from its competitive guise to oligopoly, occurred with the second industrial revolution, when electromagnetism ushered in the large networked corporations and the megabanks necessary to finance them. Ford, Edison, and Krupp replaced Adam Smith’s baker, brewer, and butcher as history’s prime movers. The ensuing boisterous cycle of mega-debts and mega-returns eventually led to the crash of 1929, the New Deal, and, after World War II, the Bretton Woods system – which, with all its constraints on finance, provided a rare period of stability.
...This is a large claim that comes on the heels of many premature forecasts of capitalism’s demise, especially from the left. But this time it may well be true.
The clues have been visible for a while. Bond and share prices, which should be moving in sharply opposite directions, have been skyrocketing in unison, occasionally falling but always in lockstep. Similarly, the cost of capital (the return demanded to own a security) should be falling with volatility; instead, it has been rising as future returns become more uncertain.
Perhaps the clearest sign that something serious is afoot appeared on August 12 last year. On that day, we learned that, in the first seven months of 2020, the United Kingdom’s national income had tanked by over 20%, well above even the direst predictions. A few minutes later, the London Stock Exchange jumped by more than 2%. Nothing comparable had ever occurred. Finance had become fully decoupled from the real economy.
But do these unprecedented developments really mean that we no longer live under capitalism? After all, capitalism has undergone fundamental transformations before. Should we not simply prepare ourselves for its latest incarnation? No, I do not think so. What we are experiencing is not merely another metamorphosis of capitalism. It is something more profound and worrisome.
Yes, capitalism has undergone extreme makeovers at least twice since the late nineteenth century. Its first major transformation, from its competitive guise to oligopoly, occurred with the second industrial revolution, when electromagnetism ushered in the large networked corporations and the megabanks necessary to finance them. Ford, Edison, and Krupp replaced Adam Smith’s baker, brewer, and butcher as history’s prime movers. The ensuing boisterous cycle of mega-debts and mega-returns eventually led to the crash of 1929, the New Deal, and, after World War II, the Bretton Woods system – which, with all its constraints on finance, provided a rare period of stability.
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Originally Posted By JayJ350⏩
Many do like it. All capitalism is, is the free movement of capital. All traditional social order is a limit to commodification/growth in Capitalism. Capitalism gives massive amounts of power to large corporations, and why they love globalism and mass immigration.Capitalism has always been the better alternative, that is why authoritarians hate it.
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The end of Bretton Woods in 1971 unleashed capitalism’s second transformation. As America’s growing trade deficit became the world’s provider of aggregate demand – sucking in the net exports of Germany, Japan, and, later, China – the US powered capitalism’s most energetic globalization phase, with a steady flow of German, Japanese, and, later, Chinese profits back into Wall Street financing it all.
To play their role, however, Wall Street functionaries demanded emancipation from all of the New Deal and Bretton Woods constraints. With deregulation, oligopolistic capitalism morphed into financialized capitalism. Just as Ford, Edison, and Krupp had replaced Smith’s baker, brewer, and butcher, capitalism’s new protagonists were Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, and Lehman Brothers.
While these radical transformations had momentous repercussions (the Great Depression, WWII, the Great Recession, and the post-2009 Long Stagnation), they did not alter capitalism’s main feature: a system driven by private profit and rents extracted through some market.
Yes, the transition from Smithian to oligopoly capitalism boosted profits inordinately and allowed conglomerates to use their massive market power (that is, their newfound freedom from competition) to extract large rents from consumers. Yes, Wall Street extracted rents from society by market-based forms of daylight robbery. Nevertheless, both oligopoly and financialized capitalism were driven by private profits boosted by rents extracted through some market – one cornered by, say, General Electric or Coca-Cola, or conjured up by Goldman Sachs.
Then, after 2008, everything changed. Ever since the G7’s central banks coalesced in April 2009 to use their money printing capacity to re-float global finance, a deep discontinuity emerged. Today, the global economy is powered by the constant generation of central bank money, not by private profit. Meanwhile, value extraction has increasingly shifted away from markets and onto digital platforms, like ******** and Amazon, which no longer operate like oligopolistic firms, but rather like private fiefdoms or estates.
That central banks’ balance sheets, not profits, power the economic system explains what happened on August 12, 2020. Upon hearing the grim news, financiers thought: “Great! The Bank of England, panicking, will print even more pounds and channel them to us. Time to buy shares!” All over the West, central banks print money that financiers lend to corporations, which then use it to buy back their shares (whose prices have decoupled from profits). Meanwhile, digital platforms have replaced markets as the locus of private wealth extraction. For the first time in history, almost everyone produces for free the capital stock of large corporations. That is what it means to upload stuff on ******** or move around while linked to Google Maps.
It is not, of course, that traditional capitalist sectors have disappeared. In the early nineteenth century, many feudal relations remained intact, but capitalist relations had begun to dominate. Today, capitalist relations remain intact, but techno-feudalist relations have begun to overtake them.
If I am right, every stimulus program is bound to be at once too large and too small. No interest rate will ever be consistent with full employment without precipitating sequential corporate bankruptcies. And class-based politics in which parties favoring capital compete against parties closer to labor is finished.
But while capitalism may end with a whimper, the bang may soon follow. If those on the receiving end of techno-feudal exploitation and mind-numbing inequality find a collective voice, it is bound to be very loud
...To play their role, however, Wall Street functionaries demanded emancipation from all of the New Deal and Bretton Woods constraints. With deregulation, oligopolistic capitalism morphed into financialized capitalism. Just as Ford, Edison, and Krupp had replaced Smith’s baker, brewer, and butcher, capitalism’s new protagonists were Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, and Lehman Brothers.
While these radical transformations had momentous repercussions (the Great Depression, WWII, the Great Recession, and the post-2009 Long Stagnation), they did not alter capitalism’s main feature: a system driven by private profit and rents extracted through some market.
Yes, the transition from Smithian to oligopoly capitalism boosted profits inordinately and allowed conglomerates to use their massive market power (that is, their newfound freedom from competition) to extract large rents from consumers. Yes, Wall Street extracted rents from society by market-based forms of daylight robbery. Nevertheless, both oligopoly and financialized capitalism were driven by private profits boosted by rents extracted through some market – one cornered by, say, General Electric or Coca-Cola, or conjured up by Goldman Sachs.
Then, after 2008, everything changed. Ever since the G7’s central banks coalesced in April 2009 to use their money printing capacity to re-float global finance, a deep discontinuity emerged. Today, the global economy is powered by the constant generation of central bank money, not by private profit. Meanwhile, value extraction has increasingly shifted away from markets and onto digital platforms, like ******** and Amazon, which no longer operate like oligopolistic firms, but rather like private fiefdoms or estates.
That central banks’ balance sheets, not profits, power the economic system explains what happened on August 12, 2020. Upon hearing the grim news, financiers thought: “Great! The Bank of England, panicking, will print even more pounds and channel them to us. Time to buy shares!” All over the West, central banks print money that financiers lend to corporations, which then use it to buy back their shares (whose prices have decoupled from profits). Meanwhile, digital platforms have replaced markets as the locus of private wealth extraction. For the first time in history, almost everyone produces for free the capital stock of large corporations. That is what it means to upload stuff on ******** or move around while linked to Google Maps.
It is not, of course, that traditional capitalist sectors have disappeared. In the early nineteenth century, many feudal relations remained intact, but capitalist relations had begun to dominate. Today, capitalist relations remain intact, but techno-feudalist relations have begun to overtake them.
If I am right, every stimulus program is bound to be at once too large and too small. No interest rate will ever be consistent with full employment without precipitating sequential corporate bankruptcies. And class-based politics in which parties favoring capital compete against parties closer to labor is finished.
But while capitalism may end with a whimper, the bang may soon follow. If those on the receiving end of techno-feudal exploitation and mind-numbing inequality find a collective voice, it is bound to be very loud
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Originally Posted By ScramFranklin⏩
will watch laterMany do like it. All capitalism is, is the free movement of capital. All traditional social order is a limit to commodification/growth in Capitalism. Capitalism gives massive amounts of power to large corporations, and why they love globalism and mass immigration.
Capitalism isn't some "anti-authoritarian" philosophy. highly recommend checking out these videos
Capitalism isn't some "anti-authoritarian" philosophy. highly recommend checking out these videos
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Only way to combat this unsettling news is to eat some more animals
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02-20-2022, 06:52 PM
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You mean like EA, Netflix, FB, Google etc? All these companies got too big and took over everything.
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
interested to see how you feel about it, since Keith Woods is not a leftist, he's a fascist.will watch later
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
Yes. Big tech and media companies in general . Not just then tho, the entire financial sector too.You mean like EA, Netflix, FB, Google etc? All these companies got too big and took over everything.
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Joe Rogan just interviewed a reformed Islamic revolutionary about this exact topic. He thinks we have a very dystopian future unless we decentralize. I agree. We are on the verge of compete totalitarianism, will be once they get their way with social credit systems.
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Joe Rogan just interviewed a reformed Islamic revolutionary about this exact topic. He thinks we have a very dystopian future unless we decentralize. I agree. We are on the verge of compete totalitarianism, will be once they get their way with social credit systems.
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Originally Posted By bsrkoacar2⏩
fuarkjoe rogan just interviewed a reformed islamic revolutionary about this exact topic. He thinks we have a very dystopian future unless we decentralize. I agree. We are on the verge of compete totalitarianism, will be once they get their way with social credit systems.
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I believe what happened (and I think it was the plan all along) was that when fiat currency was adopted the central banks used their power to create money from nothing and used this infinite money supply to buy up literally EVERYTHING. Everything of importance from a standpoint of controlling society anyway. Of course they couldn't buy everything directly but they could ensure the money would be funneled to the institutions and proxies that could do it for them.
It's mind boggling that they were ever able to pull the scam off. I mean imagine just being able to create an infinite amount of money from nothing and the power you'd have if you could do that.
It's mind boggling that they were ever able to pull the scam off. I mean imagine just being able to create an infinite amount of money from nothing and the power you'd have if you could do that.
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Interesting, saving this for reading tonight. Keep this thread going for more info.
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Originally Posted By JoeDelts⏩
You right... switch away from gold standard, along with the constant process of government intervening and altering markets by way of subsidies in the most important industries means that free market capitalism hasn't really existed in major markets for decades.I believe what happened (and I think it was the plan all along) was that when fiat currency was adopted the central banks used their power to create money from nothing and used this infinite money supply to buy up literally EVERYTHING. Everything of importance from a standpoint of controlling society anyway. Of course they couldn't buy everything directly but they could ensure the money would be funneled to the institutions and proxies that could do it for them.
It's mind boggling that they were ever able to pull the scam off. I mean imagine just being able to create an infinite amount of money from nothing and the power you'd have if you could do that.
It's mind boggling that they were ever able to pull the scam off. I mean imagine just being able to create an infinite amount of money from nothing and the power you'd have if you could do that.
If the guvmint is ever involved, its not a free market. A simple understanding much like "we don't live in a democracy" but thanks to public education few people are interested in understanding the obvious difference.
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We’ve allowed this to happen.
We have no form of check and balances when it comes to new technologies.
Not all technology is good for humanity.
We have no form of check and balances when it comes to new technologies.
Not all technology is good for humanity.
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Originally Posted By BasedNobleman⏩
corporations will always intertwine with govt. Because there is profit in doing so. And if there was no regulation, they would still grow like weeds and consolidate power.You right... switch away from gold standard, along with the constant process of government intervening and altering markets by way of subsidies in the most important industries means that free market capitalism hasn't really existed in major markets for decades.
If the guvmint is ever involved, its not a free market. A simple understanding much like "we don't live in a democracy" but thanks to public education few people are interested in understanding the obvious difference.
Will post after watching...
If the guvmint is ever involved, its not a free market. A simple understanding much like "we don't live in a democracy" but thanks to public education few people are interested in understanding the obvious difference.
Will post after watching...
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Then, after 2008, everything changed. Ever since the G7’s central banks coalesced in April 2009 to use their money printing capacity to re-float global finance, a deep discontinuity emerged. Today, the global economy is powered by the constant generation of central bank money, not by private profit.Meanwhile, value extraction has increasingly shifted away from markets and onto digital platforms, like ******** and Amazon, which no longer operate like oligopolistic firms, but rather like private fiefdoms or estates.
^^^Well this is the main bit IMO.
An additional piece of evidence to support this argument is the increase in the number of “zombie companies.” A zombie company is one whose earnings before interest and taxes are less than or equal to its debt service [it coincides exactly with Minsky’s definition of speculative and Ponzi companies, taken together]. A zombie is a wonderful metaphor because a zombie moves and appears to be alive but is in fact dead. A zombie company also moves and appears to be alive—it generates activity, employs workers, and produces goods—but in reality is [almost] dead. It is [almost] certain to die given its inability to pay its debt with its own means. The number of zombie companies has increased exponentially in the United States in recent years, according to a Bank for International Settlements [BIS] report. Furthermore, the probability of remaining in a zombie state has increased. And in fact, zombification is a reality in almost every part of the world.
The interest coverage ratio for companies in the twenty-fifth percentile reached almost 0 just before the pandemic [their profits had almost disappeared]. Since then, the ratio has been negative [these companies recorded losses]. Observe that these companies have not recovered, while companies in other quartiles have. Their ratio is currently just above −1, which means that their losses [before interest] are nearly equal to their financing cost. This is a total disaster.At least 25 percent of US companies are financially dead.
If the interest rate increases then these walking dead companies will fall over and stop moving [likely a massive hit to employment].The interest coverage ratio for companies in the twenty-fifth percentile reached almost 0 just before the pandemic [their profits had almost disappeared]. Since then, the ratio has been negative [these companies recorded losses]. Observe that these companies have not recovered, while companies in other quartiles have. Their ratio is currently just above −1, which means that their losses [before interest] are nearly equal to their financing cost. This is a total disaster.At least 25 percent of US companies are financially dead.
That central banks’ balance sheets, not profits, power the economic systemexplains what happened on August 12, 2020. Upon hearing the grim news, financiers thought: “Great! The Bank of England, panicking, will print even more pounds and channel them to us. Time to buy shares!” All over the West, central banks print money that financiers lend to corporations, which then use it to buy back their shares (whose prices have decoupled from profits). Meanwhile, digital platforms have replaced markets as the locus of private wealth extraction. For the first time in history, almost everyone produces for free the capital stock of large corporations. That is what it means to upload stuff on ******** or move around while linked to Google Maps.
It is not, of course, that traditional capitalist sectors have disappeared. In the early nineteenth century, many feudal relations remained intact, but capitalist relations had begun to dominate. Today, capitalist relations remain intact, but techno-feudalist relations have begun to overtake them.
What are these specific fiefdoms gaining? Content and information.It is not, of course, that traditional capitalist sectors have disappeared. In the early nineteenth century, many feudal relations remained intact, but capitalist relations had begun to dominate. Today, capitalist relations remain intact, but techno-feudalist relations have begun to overtake them.
And what is the main value of said content and information? Mostly sales and marketing- getting people to do what you want them to do -buy stuff, vote for stuff, go places.
I don't believe you can build an entire economy oninfluence- actual goods and services [even virtual ones] must eventually change hands.
What's troubling about the "fiefdoms" that he has listed is that they have been allowed to become near monopolies.
Break the monopolies, save the world.

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