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Neutral Finland, Sweden warming up to joining NATO
Through the Cold War and the decades since, nothing could persuade Finns and Swedes that they would be better off joining NATO — until now.
Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has profoundly changed Europe’s security outlook, including for Nordic neutrals Finland and Sweden, where support for joining NATO has surged to record levels.
https://apnews.com/article/finland-s...0c495ce6ffdb88

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has profoundly changed Europe’s security outlook, including for Nordic neutrals Finland and Sweden, where support for joining NATO has surged to record levels.
https://apnews.com/article/finland-s...0c495ce6ffdb88

03-04-2022, 08:03 AM
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whenever I see a map of that part of the world I wonder how much Sweden feels cucked by Norway for being just a strip of coastline
03-04-2022, 08:08 AM
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looking at the map it's not hard to understand why
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How the Finns Deter Russian Invasion
If you want ordinary people to make your society occupation-proof, you have to teach them to kill well before they need to do so.
"In Finland, adolescent males report for a short and intense period of military training, followed by shorter refreshers for most of their adult life. The training is not, as in the Israeli model, a few years of dedicated service. Nor does it emphasize military discipline, such as keeping one’s bunk tidy and shoes polished, or the Prussian-style transformation of citizen-recruit into fighting machine. Instead, it prepares civilians to be ready to join their unit and harass and kill invaders. A country of Finland’s size can rapidly field nearly 1 million trained soldiers."
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...ession/623334/
If you want ordinary people to make your society occupation-proof, you have to teach them to kill well before they need to do so.
"In Finland, adolescent males report for a short and intense period of military training, followed by shorter refreshers for most of their adult life. The training is not, as in the Israeli model, a few years of dedicated service. Nor does it emphasize military discipline, such as keeping one’s bunk tidy and shoes polished, or the Prussian-style transformation of citizen-recruit into fighting machine. Instead, it prepares civilians to be ready to join their unit and harass and kill invaders. A country of Finland’s size can rapidly field nearly 1 million trained soldiers."
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...ession/623334/
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Finland very likely to join NATO...
NATO to expand? Chief says Finland — which borders Russia — would be warmly welcomed to the alliance
Local media outlets have shownFinnish support for NATO membership hitting a record highfollowing Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.
Speaking to CNBC’s Hadley Gamble on Friday, NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg said Finland’s move to consider joining the NATO military alliance was a direct result of Russia’s invasion of its neighbor on Feb. 24.
“The message from NATO and from me is that it is for Finland to decide,” Stoltenberg said.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/08/russ...in-allies.html
NATO to expand? Chief says Finland — which borders Russia — would be warmly welcomed to the alliance
Local media outlets have shownFinnish support for NATO membership hitting a record highfollowing Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.
Speaking to CNBC’s Hadley Gamble on Friday, NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg said Finland’s move to consider joining the NATO military alliance was a direct result of Russia’s invasion of its neighbor on Feb. 24.
“The message from NATO and from me is that it is for Finland to decide,” Stoltenberg said.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/08/russ...in-allies.html
04-08-2022, 03:36 AM
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Nato should also invade Belarus, making a beautiful long front for vatniks.
04-08-2022, 04:09 AM
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Putin is the world's best NATO salesman.
Last 3 US Presidents, hey Finland join our NATO = nuh
Last 3 US Presidents, hey Germany pay NATO dues = nuh
Putin...hold my beer
2 weeks later, the Krauts are doubling their military spending and chucking 100 BIO Euros in on top and Finland wants to join NATO.
Last 3 US Presidents, hey Finland join our NATO = nuh
Last 3 US Presidents, hey Germany pay NATO dues = nuh
Putin...hold my beer
2 weeks later, the Krauts are doubling their military spending and chucking 100 BIO Euros in on top and Finland wants to join NATO.
"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand."
04-08-2022, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted By Mr
WMD is now the only way out for Putin?Putin is the world's best NATO salesman.
Last 3 US Presidents, hey Finland join our NATO = nuh
Last 3 US Presidents, hey Germany pay NATO dues = nuh
Putin...hold my beer
2 weeks later, the Krauts are doubling their military spending and chucking 100 BIO Euros in on top and Finland wants to join NATO.
Last 3 US Presidents, hey Finland join our NATO = nuh
Last 3 US Presidents, hey Germany pay NATO dues = nuh
Putin...hold my beer
2 weeks later, the Krauts are doubling their military spending and chucking 100 BIO Euros in on top and Finland wants to join NATO.
04-08-2022, 05:18 AM
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China and Russia are trying to trigger a change in world order. Global economy is having a meltdown, you think anyone cares about any of these irrelevant nations joining NATO?Putin is the world's best NATO salesman.
Last 3 US Presidents, hey Finland join our NATO = nuh
Last 3 US Presidents, hey Germany pay NATO dues = nuh
Putin...hold my beer
2 weeks later, the Krauts are doubling their military spending and chucking 100 BIO Euros in on top and Finland wants to join NATO.
Last 3 US Presidents, hey Finland join our NATO = nuh
Last 3 US Presidents, hey Germany pay NATO dues = nuh
Putin...hold my beer
2 weeks later, the Krauts are doubling their military spending and chucking 100 BIO Euros in on top and Finland wants to join NATO.
Sometimes you have to sacrifice a pawn to achieve a greater result....
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04-08-2022, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted By greenleaf⏩
Media outlet "polls" deciding military alliances now?Finland very likely to join NATO...
NATO to expand? Chief says Finland — which borders Russia — would be warmly welcomed to the alliance
Local media outlets have shownFinnish support for NATO membership hitting a record highfollowing Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.
Speaking to CNBC’s Hadley Gamble on Friday, NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg said Finland’s move to consider joining the NATO military alliance was a direct result of Russia’s invasion of its neighbor on Feb. 24.
“The message from NATO and from me is that it is for Finland to decide,” Stoltenberg said.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/08/russ...in-allies.html
NATO to expand? Chief says Finland — which borders Russia — would be warmly welcomed to the alliance
Local media outlets have shownFinnish support for NATO membership hitting a record highfollowing Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.
Speaking to CNBC’s Hadley Gamble on Friday, NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg said Finland’s move to consider joining the NATO military alliance was a direct result of Russia’s invasion of its neighbor on Feb. 24.
“The message from NATO and from me is that it is for Finland to decide,” Stoltenberg said.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/08/russ...in-allies.html
Putin has made you guys go full retard lmfao
I should have gone on the websites to vote...
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they should have let Russia join , but of course NATO was created to counter Russia , er the Soviet Union power. So then NATO would have no reason to exist and would quit collecting funds. I suppose the Russians are the same people as the SU so i guess that gives NATO the right to continue ****ing with them?
04-08-2022, 10:27 AM
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Alright fine, let them join. It's good to have a reinvigorated NATO. Then the US should pull out and/or substantially reduce its financial life support of NATO.
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Putin strengthening NATO like never before
Russia is a NATO Partner just like Ukraine, since that happened in 1994 -
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/51288.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partnership_for_Peace
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia...NATO_relations
[although Russia was suspended after the 2014 invasion of Ukraine]
Russia was on a path towards friendship and partnership and membership with the West but Putin and his sponsors didn't like that very much bc it would mean the certain end of their oligarchy and hyper-corrupt kleptocracy.
Once lunatic sociopath USSR-idolizing KGB/FSB cold warrior Putin took control of Russia with the aid of the '99 apartment bombings that his allies at the FSB did on his orders, of course all of that changed and Putin has since carried Russia into national insanity now.
Once Putin and his fellow rodents are removed then Russia will be on a path to friendship and partnership and membership with the other European countries again.
Originally Posted By Leonydus⏩
It's everyone's fault but Putin's right?they should have let Russia join , but of course NATO was created to counter Russia , er the Soviet Union power. So then NATO would have no reason to exist and would quit collecting funds. I suppose the Russians are the same people as the SU so i guess that gives NATO the right to continue ****ing with them?
Russia is a NATO Partner just like Ukraine, since that happened in 1994 -
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/51288.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partnership_for_Peace
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia...NATO_relations
[although Russia was suspended after the 2014 invasion of Ukraine]
Russia was on a path towards friendship and partnership and membership with the West but Putin and his sponsors didn't like that very much bc it would mean the certain end of their oligarchy and hyper-corrupt kleptocracy.
Once lunatic sociopath USSR-idolizing KGB/FSB cold warrior Putin took control of Russia with the aid of the '99 apartment bombings that his allies at the FSB did on his orders, of course all of that changed and Putin has since carried Russia into national insanity now.
Once Putin and his fellow rodents are removed then Russia will be on a path to friendship and partnership and membership with the other European countries again.
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I don't know if this is good or not. The first thing that comes to mind, I hope the European countries pay their NATO dues. I've prefer to not see America involved in another conflict. If we are in a conflict or just a military build up hopefully I hope Americans don't end up paying for most of the military expenses.
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Originally Posted By greenleaf⏩
Don't think so. Russia can still win on the battlefield and if they fail, they can just dig in and claim a win.WMD is now the only way out for Putin?
Originally Posted By foXs⏩
China is going to get a change in world order and this Ukraine deal is going to accelerate it at Russia's expense. That's why Xi signed off on Putin's foolhardy adventurism, bar a nuclear war this only benefits China. Putin most certainly does care if NATO extends it's borders, since one of his many excuses to invade a peaceful European nation was 'but NATO on muh borders!' - good job NATO salesman, you just excerbated that problem.China and Russia are trying to trigger a change in world order. Global economy is having a meltdown, you think anyone cares about any of these irrelevant nations joining NATO?
Sometimes you have to sacrifice a pawn to achieve a greater result....
Sometimes you have to sacrifice a pawn to achieve a greater result....
"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand."
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
Hard to tell, maybe it's because Russia keeps on invading its neighbours and only 80 years ago invaded Finland? Try to imagine if Germany invaded the Netherlands in 2014 and successfully seized some territory, is it possible that France might want to join some kind of defense league pivoted against German aggression?Why though? Being neutral has served them well.
"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand."
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen⏩
Rabbi LukeLissen, Putin is no mad man, the west is however under the control of mad men. just look at the state of it.Putin strengthening NATO like never before
It's everyone's fault but Putin's right?
Russia is a NATO Partner just like Ukraine, ever since that happened in 1997 -
https://www.google.com/search?q=when...a+nato+partner
Russia was on a path towards friendship and partnership and membership with the West but Putin and his sponsors didn't like that very much bc it would mean the certain end of their oligarchy and hyper-corrupt kleptocracy.
Once lunatic sociopath USSR-idolizing KGB/FSB cold warrior Putin took control of Russia with the aid of the '99 apartment bombings that his allies at the FSB did on his orders, of course all of that changed and Putin has since carried Russia into national insanity now.
Once Putin and his fellow rodents are removed then Russia will be on a path to friendship and partnership and membership with the other European countries again.
It's everyone's fault but Putin's right?
Russia is a NATO Partner just like Ukraine, ever since that happened in 1997 -
https://www.google.com/search?q=when...a+nato+partner
Russia was on a path towards friendship and partnership and membership with the West but Putin and his sponsors didn't like that very much bc it would mean the certain end of their oligarchy and hyper-corrupt kleptocracy.
Once lunatic sociopath USSR-idolizing KGB/FSB cold warrior Putin took control of Russia with the aid of the '99 apartment bombings that his allies at the FSB did on his orders, of course all of that changed and Putin has since carried Russia into national insanity now.
Once Putin and his fellow rodents are removed then Russia will be on a path to friendship and partnership and membership with the other European countries again.
Putin built Russia up after communism crashed it to the ground, now the west wants to surround Russia with NATO bases and weaponry to bring Russia to heel for the WEF messianic globalists.
NATO has always been hostile toward Russia, its the reason NATO was created.
im sure you'd love to see Putin replaced with a more "open for business" type of leader like Zelensky, biden, macron, truduea etc
we must do everything we can to prevent a strong Russia right?
if China were hostile toward America, and Canada's government was overthrown with Chinese puppets who allowed Chinese Military bases along the border do you suppose America would just sit idly by?

"USSR-idolizing sociopath Putin"

please do not reply to me with 20 links from your pro-nato propaganda sources. Putin had a clear red-line for years and NATO crossed it, infact 3 days before the invasion Kamala harris was in Munich giving a speech on why Ukraine should join NATO. Ukraine should be a neutral buffer state, as wlel as Finland.
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
Its just a stupid poll done by news media, literally holds the same power as when the news asks you if you think your local sports team has a shot at the championshipWhy though? Being neutral has served them well.
Then there is a question posed by said media and they ask the team owner
This was not an official polling of the country in any capacity, it holds the same weight as a poll done in the US by PBS
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Are there any more pathetic countries in world than Finland and Sweden? Those mutherf'ers been bragging about how much better they are than everyone else while spending all their money paying Africans to take over and abuse their women. Now they are scared and want the US to protect them against the Russians without contributing anything at all. As if even Putin wants anything to do with taking over frozen ****lia.
If there is anything more worthless than Ukraine to the US it would have to be Finland and Sweden. Putin has proven beyond any doubt he is an absolute clown for thinking the US wouldn't take advantage of the opportunity to decimate his pathetic military in Ukraine. Did he really think the tiny country of Israel won 8 straight wars against the entire Arab world that surrounds them on their own? Just like Israel it isn't the heavily over matched and outnumbered Ukraine army and civilians pushing back the Russian's armored infantry, tanks, fighter jets, bombers, and hypersonic missiles. It is amateur hour for US special forces executing the mission to absolutely destroy any resemblance of Russian military power and cripple them for decades to come.
Putin went from having this image of being a very powerful, intimidating, world leader in command of a super power level military force to a complete coward. He clearly spent time planning, preparing, and openly positioning his forces for this invasion before actually deploying basically the full force of his military, air, naval, and ground troops expecting to overwhelm and take Ukraine immediately but didn't consider the reality the US would notice and take action to stop him. Now Putin has completely blown his load, China isn't coming to help, and he has no path to victory while his military is fragmented all over Ukraine with no support, supply lines, or air superiority just waiting to get destroyed by drones and javelins.
If there is anything more worthless than Ukraine to the US it would have to be Finland and Sweden. Putin has proven beyond any doubt he is an absolute clown for thinking the US wouldn't take advantage of the opportunity to decimate his pathetic military in Ukraine. Did he really think the tiny country of Israel won 8 straight wars against the entire Arab world that surrounds them on their own? Just like Israel it isn't the heavily over matched and outnumbered Ukraine army and civilians pushing back the Russian's armored infantry, tanks, fighter jets, bombers, and hypersonic missiles. It is amateur hour for US special forces executing the mission to absolutely destroy any resemblance of Russian military power and cripple them for decades to come.
Putin went from having this image of being a very powerful, intimidating, world leader in command of a super power level military force to a complete coward. He clearly spent time planning, preparing, and openly positioning his forces for this invasion before actually deploying basically the full force of his military, air, naval, and ground troops expecting to overwhelm and take Ukraine immediately but didn't consider the reality the US would notice and take action to stop him. Now Putin has completely blown his load, China isn't coming to help, and he has no path to victory while his military is fragmented all over Ukraine with no support, supply lines, or air superiority just waiting to get destroyed by drones and javelins.
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Russia threatensnew nuclear deploymentsif Sweden, Finland join NATO
Russia says a nuclear-free Baltic region would no longer possible if Finland and Sweden join NATO, alluding to additional nuclear deployments in Europe.
The comments come a day after Finland and Sweden said their decision on whether to apply for NATO membership would come within a matter of weeks.
Finland and Sweden are members of the EU, but not NATO, and the latter shares a 830-mile border with Russia.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/14/russ...join-nato.html

Russia says a nuclear-free Baltic region would no longer possible if Finland and Sweden join NATO, alluding to additional nuclear deployments in Europe.
The comments come a day after Finland and Sweden said their decision on whether to apply for NATO membership would come within a matter of weeks.
Finland and Sweden are members of the EU, but not NATO, and the latter shares a 830-mile border with Russia.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/14/russ...join-nato.html

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Finland is justdays awayfrom applying for NATO membership
After completing a few more steps, Finland will be ready to send its application to join the NATO military alliance, the country’s foreign affairs minister told CNBC Tuesday.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/10/finl...embership.html
After completing a few more steps, Finland will be ready to send its application to join the NATO military alliance, the country’s foreign affairs minister told CNBC Tuesday.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/10/finl...embership.html
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Originally Posted By Procta⏩
NATO protection in case Russia crosses the border for special military operation.that wont make them neutral anymore
what is the benefit of them joining? getting free US funds?
what is the benefit of them joining? getting free US funds?
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Originally Posted By brayar⏩
Oh look, another demoralized autist.A war between Russia and a bunch of white countries sounds like the Jews' wet dream. Dead white Christian men, which justifies importing hordes of Arabs and Africans to replace them.
Originally Posted By Procta⏩
Article 5 in case the retarded Russians decided to sperg out in the future.that wont make them neutral anymore
what is the benefit of them joining? getting free US funds?
what is the benefit of them joining? getting free US funds?
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