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post 1657371763 03-05-2022, 03:13 AM
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Former NSA John Bolton: Putin waiting for Trump NATO withdrawal in 2nd Term.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/b....com&r=US&IR=T
Bolton made the remarks during a virtual event with the Washington Post on the Russian invasion of Ukraine, where Bolton mostly offered critiques of current President Joe Biden’s foreign policy in the region. At the end of the event, he was asked by the Post’s Michael Duffy about how close Trump came to withdrawing the country from NATO, a translantic security alliance that includes the United States, Canada, and most of Europe.

“I thought he put his foot over it, but at least he didn’t withdraw then,” said Bolton, who wrote in his memoir about Trump’s consideration of withdrawing from NATO in 2018. “In a second Trump term, I think he may well have withdrawn from NATO. And I think Putin was waiting for that.”
Trump viewed NATO as a liability during his presidency, believing that European countries were not paying enough of their fair share of the burden of providing defense to the alliance. Bolton, a State Department official during the George W. Bush administration, was brought on to be Trump’s national security advisor in 2018 only to be ousted a year and a half later.

Bolton’s latest comments come just days after he told Newsmax that Trump “barely knew where Ukraine was,” pushing back on a host who said the former president had been “tough on Russia.”
NATO withdrawal thing makes sense now. Trump was wanting to leave NATO and strong-arm Zelensky into giving him something that he wouldn't give and likely didn't exist.


A pretty chilling counterfactual forms here. If Trump had his second term, it looks almost certain Ukraine would fall with America on Russia's side. It's entirely possible this invasion took place with Trump in office, US out of NATO etc. Also chilling is that Putin had been planning this for 4 years, Trump impeached for withholding aid to Ukraine, Manafort working for pro-Russian government in Ukraine....makes me wonder if the "Ukraine has secrets on your opponents" thing was put in Trump's head by Putin. The info drop on Hilary came from Putin, which changed the 2016 race along with help from Russian troll armies, then Ukraine is meant to have info on Biden's son?


I close by reminding you that leaving NATO wasn't a term 2 thing for Trump. It was something he didn't complete in term 1.



Are you still so sure collusion isn't a thing? *references Foundations of Geopolitics*
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/b....com&r=US&IR=T







NATO withdrawal thing makes sense now. Trump was wanting to leave NATO and strong-arm Zelensky into giving him something that he wouldn't give and likely didn't exist.


A pretty chilling counterfactual forms here. If Trump had his second term, it looks almost certain Ukraine would fall with America on Russia's side. It's entirely possible this invasion took place with Trump in office, US out of NATO etc. Also chilling is that Putin had been planning this for 4 years, Trump impeached for withholding aid to Ukraine, Manafort working for pro-Russian government in Ukraine....makes me wonder if the "Ukraine has secrets on your opponents" thing was put in Trump's head by Putin. The info drop on Hilary came from Putin, which changed the 2016 race along with help from Russian troll armies, then Ukraine is meant to have info on Biden's son?


I close by reminding you that leaving NATO wasn't a term 2 thing for Trump. It was something he didn't complete in term 1.



Are you still so sure collusion isn't a thing? *references Foundations of Geopolitics*
You forgot trump litterally placed more sancions on Russia than anything. Do you just regurgitate garbage or actually read the DOD and State department policies being implemented on their site? "literally"
post 1657372473 03-05-2022, 03:52 AM
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yea i hope Trump isnt elected again otherwise Russia might invade Ukraine...
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Another farcical Conspiracy Theory from ****ot OP. Also, I'm sure John Bolton is a very credible source.

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The orange worshipers won't like this
I don't answer questions
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What else is “chilling” to you phaqqot?
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I would just like to note I correctly called out Bolton ,as a conspirator, at the beginning of this thread when everyone thought I was being silly at first……


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Imagine actually believing this sh!t….
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/b....com&r=US&IR=T




NATO withdrawal thing makes sense now. Trump was wanting to leave NATO and strong-arm Zelensky into giving him something that he wouldn't give and likely didn't exist.


A pretty chilling counterfactual forms here. If Trump had his second term, it looks almost certain Ukraine would fall with America on Russia's side. It's entirely possible this invasion took place with Trump in office, US out of NATO etc. Also chilling is that Putin had been planning this for 4 years, Trump impeached for withholding aid to Ukraine, Manafort working for pro-Russian government in Ukraine....makes me wonder if the "Ukraine has secrets on your opponents" thing was put in Trump's head by Putin. The info drop on Hilary came from Putin, which changed the 2016 race along with help from Russian troll armies, then Ukraine is meant to have info on Biden's son?


I close by reminding you that leaving NATO wasn't a term 2 thing for Trump. It was something he didn't complete in term 1.



Are you still so sure collusion isn't a thing? *references Foundations of Geopolitics*
Russia invading Ukraine

Trumps fault

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post 1657373733 03-05-2022, 05:08 AM
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I’m gonna go ahead and quote that first post I made in cited thread for research purposes
Can't let a lib own the thread

Bring the popcorn.....



Pretty tough spot for the democrats, almost have no choice now with base demand- and could backfire enough to virtually strip all their power.






Trump screwed up hiring Bolton, and Bolton's buddy Romney has been sitting aside with good the entire time forming a senate impeachment coalition.

Bolton was the mole here, and the catalyst to all this
Bolton Pushed Trump to Release Ukraine Military Aid in July
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...y-aid-in-july/
'A lot to dish': Bolton shopping for a book deal
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...or-a-book-deal
John Bolton is reportedly out for vengeance — and a book deal
https://theweek.com/speedreads/86534...nce--book-deal
Mitt Romney says he is 'not planning' to endorse Trump for 2020 elections
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...2020-elections

Romney: Bolton firing 'a huge loss' for nation
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...oss-for-nation
John Bolton backs Mitt Romney
https://www.politico.com/story/2012/...-romney-071357
John Bolton, The Media's Favorite Undisclosed Romney Adviser
https://www.mediamatters.org/new-yor...romney-adviser
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Originally Posted By bignpisst⏩
The orange worshipers won't like this
so we are living in a hypothetical world now?
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Trump wanted NATO members to contribute more of their GDP to the organization. He wanted a stronger and more effective NATO that could actually do its job.



Edit: if it was easier for Putin to invade during Trumps term then he would have done it.
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He wanted to pull out of NATO or make other countries pay their fair share? Good.

You know what else Trump did? He never let Russia take Ukraine.

These are straight irrefutable FACTS

Inb4 chit smear memes depicting OPs mental state.
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John Bolton is an ugly war mongering traitor ****
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Bolton is one of the worst human beings ever to serve public office, right up there almost as bad as Hillary.
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How much aid in the hundreds of millions did Trump give Ukraine each year in office?

**** smearing abortion survivor.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Edward chitter hands ladies and gents.

2nd show completely different from the first.
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It would take too long to correct everything in the OP, but it is entirely false.

Regarding NATO, trump wanted the other countries to pull their weight. They weren’t spending the agreed upon amount of their gdp toward defense, and as in all deals, the US taxpayer was being hosed. The threat of leaving was to get the other countries to pull their weight.

Putin didn’t get Clinton info… the claim is that Russia hit dnc emails came from crowdstrike… a ukraine company headed by a former Clinton ally in the intel community. This person said under oath he had no direct evidence Russia hacked the dnc. The dnc emails were an inside job and not a remote hack. The narrative was convenient for the trump Russia investigation, however. Trump had every right to ask ukraine about crowdstrike.

Chalupa in the dnc also helped craft the black ledger in ukraine on manafort in an effort to tarnish trumps campaign. It proved to be entirely false… just like Clinton’s Alfa bank story and the dossier she paid for.

Ukraine is a breeding ground for the US establishment.

The fantasy in the OP is so far from reality
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Imagine libs citing war hawks like Bolton as voices of reason.

Welcome to honk honk world.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
How much aid in the hundreds of millions did Trump give Ukraine each year in office?

**** smearing abortion survivor.
You seem upset Dave.
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>I had to pick up the tab again.
>You didn't wash the dishes.
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>You were late to your share of the rent again.
>Get your schit together or you're own your own.

NATO:


Crazy what can happen when a collection of countries fail to get their schit together.
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Also, Ukraine isn't a part of NATO.
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Cool story bruh

...whatever fantasy helps you COPE a little harder

Reality: Russia invaded Ukraine twice under Biden, zero under Trump.

Ukraine sure received a lot of help from spineless NATO so far
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This is misinformation.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Also, Ukraine isn't a part of NATO, yet.
*fixed
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Oh look, Bolton must be trying to sell another book. Yawn.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Imagine actually believing this sh!t….
He believes it so much, he's willing to smear it on walls to get his point across!!










































and then rape a child
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