GF is barely responsive by thext and barely available throughout the day but as soon as she learns that I'm out with the boys she starts acting all clingy and want to know what I'm doing with who and when I'm going back home.

I mean why does it always come to me being around women or having the potential to meet other women for her to finally show interest ?

I can see the pattern now and it almost makes me want to act toxic and put up insta stories where I'm around girls on the regular just to keep her in check.

Can we please go back to the pre-internet dating scene ?

try men srs

if your girl isn't the one initiating all the conversations and annoying you with how often she wants to text/call/talk it's already over for you

how is your escort crush?

Ran away with a cuck wimp that would cry and beg her and would accept her getting shagged all day long before they could spend the night together.

Thank god I snapped out of becoming such a cuckhold.

gf gets weird when I open up and actually talk to her

She knows me as a quiet guy

then when I stop talking again she hangs all over me

It's always been this way, brah. Women require constant entertainment being spoon fed to them in order to "be happy". The more you settle down with them (i.e. start "seriously dating" them, move in with them, get engaged to them, marry them), the more difficult that becomes for you to accomplish.

Because you're no longer the new and interesting man anymore. Hence why she doesn't surprise you with stuff like sexy lingerie, dolling herself up *for you*, or giving you epic spontaneous bj's anymore. Those things are reserved for the next guy(s) she decides to bang. Ever wondered why one of the #1 signs of cheating/a woman planning to leave a man is if they start trying to improve their appearance (working out more, dolling themselves up more, dressing nicer than usual, buying sexy lingerie she never wears *for you*, etc.)? Well, now you know.

The reason they get clingy when you do stuff like go out with your buddies is because it demonstrates a slight variance in her routine of assuming they've got you 100% locked down at all times. That's why making a woman your world is something they'll claim to want for the most part, but it tends to backfire easily. Even if you're married, the key thing that keeps her wanting you is to feel like other women want you. Hence why you get nothing but dead starfish style sex from her (if anything) most of the time when you're busy working all the time and chit, but she'll magically feel like sucking your dink again if she starts feeling like she could lose you.

Ppl want what they can't have my dude.
Thats why its important to sometimes stfu , relax & keep it playa my dude

I dated girls that would rarely iniate contact other then to ask why i didnt hit them up? And id be thinking you could hit me up. Girls can be hypocrites

I think the only reason shed ask me that was out out of insecurity to check " did this guy ghost me " or does he still like me

This is exactly all that.

The moment they sense that they have you wrapped around their little finger is the moment they start losing interest. Gotta keep them on their toes at all time : I'm not saying that you must cheat or even flirt with other women but letting her know from time to time that you have options and could leave at moment's notice if you wanted as a reminder.

Triangulation works. Why do you think Narcissists are so effective for a while?

That's because women like mystery and excitement A LOT more than they like comfort and stability. Remember the ol' saying about how frustrating it is that women seem to adore "bad boy assshole" type guys so much? It's because guys that treat them/the relationship like chit are a constant source of the former.

To put it into perspective - When women decide to cheat/leave a guy for another man, they don't do it because they see a superior life involving comfort and stability with the new guy. They do it because they decide they're bored with that chit from their current guy, so they hook up with a new guy they perceive as exciting/interesting/mysterious/etc. Basically, all the typical pie in the sky "fairytale" bullchit women like to rail on about it.

every minute you are not cheating on your girl is a minute she spends losing interest

True

Like to add

every minute you are not beating on your girl is a minute she spends losing interest

if you want to turn a gal on, send her a stock photo of domestic abuse srs



why do all women like this

your gf sounds like trash srs, I hate women who act like that

I don't know. Some women like bad boys and like to get beaten. One of my Buddies told me his GF says likes to get beaten and choked during sex.

**** is risky in 2022 when you can get your ass in the clink.

That's how all women start to act once they start getting bored in relationships. If your gf/wife isn't texting you several times a day just to check in/bullchit with you, it means the relationship is already on thin ice as far as she's concerned. Whether her man is able/willing to accept that reality is another matter entirely.

bonrar achieved

Well, yeah. Women love attention. Among them are a select number who are willing to go to pretty far extremes to get it. Few things will garner them as much easy attention as being able to passively bitch and complain to her family/friends/coworkers about the chitty things an abusive assshole guy, who she chose to get involved with, does to her. Not to mention being able to gossip and gloat to her friends and female coworkers about all the rauchy, wild sex she still has with her man, even if he is an abusive prick. Then the women she clucks about it to get jellier than the many fat rolls of that old school miscer troll WetBreasts about it, and proceed to get depressed over how their men "Don't make them excited like that anymore".

Men have been trying to figure out women for millennia. Women aren't logical creatures

are you me

You don't. Men's attention is the one thing we have to dictate things. Every time she acts like that you give attention to her in response, you just show her how to get your attention on her terms through manipulation. And giving her attention when she is also not being reciprocative shows her that she's got you by the string.

Ditch her, establish boundaries and a set of balls, then find a woman that respects that.

texting throughout the day is fine, but if you're going out and she's acting super jealous and clingy like asking where you're going and who you're going to be with... yeah fuk that. women who are emotionally stable, not insecure and who trust you aren't gonna do that chit and play these games with you

IME, almost all women prefer that. If you show any weakness they dry up. Which is why I laugh at all this "Express yourself!" propaganda. It's essentially ratting on yourself, publicly, what a lot of these people do.

Men complain about this while simultaneously entertaining the women that exhibit this behavior.

Men who never wise up to the reality of women, yes. I'd lmao at a broad trying to play the hot and cold gimmick with me these days.

Here's a hint for the unware guys out there who still haven't figured it out yet: When a woman likes you, she will always be "hot" for you, or at least still very warm for you during the more boring times of a relationship in between the flaming hot periods. If she ever acts "cold" towards you for anything beyond a small bs fight you both get over and move on from quickly (as in, the same day it happened), she already stopped giving a chit about you and the relationship. She might not even fully realize it yet herself, but that's the reality of it none the less.

I never claimed it was a good thing if they acted clingy and emotional just because their guy does something as simple as seeing his friends. You must have me confused with the situation OP was describing with his gf.

you don't have to be toxic, you're brainwashed by PUA and redpill losers honestly lol

by far my best success with women came when I was myself, not someone I wasn't

if you "have to be" toxic towards a certain woman, guess what? she's trash

Lmfao based. I've had this exact same situation with my girl, no matter what you say or do they just don't listen or concede anything. I've had this sort of issue happen multiple times over the last 5 years and i've been thinking is it just a massive red flag? is this really wife material etc. It's clearly a lack of trust thus makes me not trust her out of spite and it creates such a toxic situation within the relationship that can last for weeks on end. Fkn sloots bro

Had this dynamic with my last ex

Ended over it. She couldn't admit any fault or accept any toxic behaviour. Toward the end I was only staying for the sex