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post 1664141233 07-09-2022, 12:41 PM
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Agreed. A good guy with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun..

Before he has killed 10 or 12 people. If you are lucky




That is all
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post 1664141493 07-09-2022, 12:46 PM
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If a good guy stops a mass shooting before it ever starts, do you even hear about it?
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OP and his kind don't believe in true freedom and will rely on other men to keep them safe if sht hits the fan. They are weak beta males who talk chit from the bottom of the totem pole.


But here you go, hundreds of good guys with gun scenarios that are rarely heard by anyone:

https://www.reddit.com/r/dgu/
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How about a good guy with nuclear weapons vs a bad guy with nuclear weapons?
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
If a good guy stops a mass shooting before it ever starts, do you even hear about it?
Nope.


Just like we rarely hear about the THOUSANDS of successful defensive gun uses in this country ever year.



But OP would rather those people be victims.


You hear your home broken into at 1am and you’re gonna want a gun or you’re a liar.
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
Before he has killed 10 or 12 people. If you are lucky




That is all
Using this logic cops shouldn't even respond to a mass shooting and should just let the guy run out of ammo.
Would kick em in the nuts
post 1664147503 07-09-2022, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted By Griggz⏩
OP and his kind don't believe in true freedom and will rely on other men to keep them safe if sht hits the fan. They are weak beta males who talk chit from the bottom of the totem pole.


But here you go, hundreds of good guys with gun scenarios that are rarely heard by anyone:

https://www.reddit.com/r/dgu/
all seem to be home defense. hardly the point
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post 1664147613 07-09-2022, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Antoine99⏩
Using this logic cops shouldn't even respond to a mass shooting and should just let the guy run out of ammo.
doesnt sound logical at all
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post 1664147773 07-09-2022, 03:10 PM
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That darn US constitution always bothers cucks when they don’t agree with any part of it.
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
Before he has killed 10 or 12 people. If you are lucky




That is all
youre right dude, defending yourself is stupid, we should just lay down and die gladly following what the mainstream media tells us.

self defense is so racist, we need more more beta bitch boys like you....
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Originally Posted By keyboardworkout⏩
How about a good guy with nuclear weapons vs a bad guy with nuclear weapons?
What about one good guy with a nuke vs 10 mini Ditkas?

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post 1664148703 07-09-2022, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted By jamalfudge⏩
What about one good guy with a nuke vs 10 mini Ditkas?
One nuke vs 1 pibble?
Would kick em in the nuts
post 1664148963 07-09-2022, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted By 4ea⏩
youre right dude, defending yourself is stupid, we should just lay down and die gladly following what the mainstream media tells us.

self defense is so racist, we need more more beta bitch boys like you....
didnt say dont defend yourself
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post 1664148993 07-09-2022, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
If a good guy stops a mass shooting before it ever starts, do you even hear about it?
This happens way more often than people think. For every crime with a gun, 4 crimes are stopped with a gun. But logic isn't what OP is looking for.
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post 1664149573 07-09-2022, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
This happens way more often than people think. For every crime with a gun, 4 crimes are stopped with a gun. But logic isn't what OP is looking for.
4 people stop 4 burglars in 4 different homes

mass shooter kills 12 in one go.. thats still three times as many people dead due to guns.. see how that works
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
Before he has killed 10 or 12 people. If you are lucky




That is all
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post 1664149933 07-09-2022, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
Before he has killed 10 or 12 people. If you are lucky
Did you know, according to the Active Shooter Incidents 20-Year Review by the FBI, out of 62 shootings in Education Environments, 19 were stopped by civilians without weapons? That's more than the 17 incidents stopped by police on the scene. Imagine if those civilians had weapons and could effectively save some lives.

Interestingly, military property and government property shootings had a 50% or greater "killed by police" result. None escaped the scene.

Also it should be noted that your "10 or 12" statement is pure fiction. There is no evidence that backs it up. Even the inflated FBI statistics suggest 8 to 9 deaths.
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
4 people stop 4 burglars in 4 different homes

mass shooter kills 12 in one go.. thats still three times as many people dead due to guns.. see how that works
Irrelevant. The fact is, when guns were banned in your country, the murder rate went up, not down. Look it up. Also, once the murder rate actually started to go down, it went down in the US by the same amount, despite the guns.
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
4 people stop 4 burglars in 4 different homes

mass shooter kills 12 in one go.. thats still three times as many people dead due to guns.. see how that works
Hundreds of thousands of lives saved

vs

Dying to a mass shooter (less likely than accidental drowning)

See how risk assessment works?
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By definition, a would-be mass shooter who is stopped before he can commit his act does not perform a mass shooting! Asking how many mass shooters have been stopped by armed civilians is like asking how many candles would've burned into house fires if they hadn't been blown out.

That said, here are some occasions when an armed civilian stopped what probably would have turned into a mass shooting:

Conyers, Ga., May 31, 2015: A permit holder was walking by a store when he heard shots ring out. Two people were killed. The permit holder started firing, and the killer ran out of the store. Rockdale County Sheriff Eric Levett said: “I believe that if Mr. Scott did not return fire at the suspect, then more of those customers would have [been] hit by a gun[shot] . . . . So, in my opinion he saved other lives in that store.”
Chicago, April 2015: An Uber driver who had just dropped off a fare “shot and wounded a gunman [Everardo Custodio] who opened fire on a crowd of people.” Assistant State’s Attorney Barry Quinn praised the driver for “acting in self-defense and in the defense of others.”
Philadelphia, Pa., March 2015: A permit holder was walking by a barber shop when he heard shots fired. He quickly ran into the shop and shot the gunman to death. Police Captain Frank Llewellyn said, “I guess he saved a lot of people in there.”
Darby, Pa., July 2014: Convicted felon Richard Plotts killed a hospital caseworker and shot the psychiatrist that he was scheduled to meet with. Fortunately, the psychiatrist was a concealed-handgun permit holder and was able to critically wound Plotts. Plotts was still carrying 39 bullets and could have shot many other people.
Chicago, July 2014: Three gang members fired on four people who had just left a party. Fortunately, one of these four was a military serviceman with a concealed-handgun permit. He was able to return fire and wound the main attacker while keeping the others at bay. The UK’s Daily Mail reported, “The night might have had a very different outcome had the incident occurred a year earlier [before Illinois’s concealed-handgun law was passed].”
Plymouth, Pa., September 2012: William Allabaugh critically wounded one man inside a restaurant and murdered a second man on the street outside. Luzerne County Assistant District Attorney Jarrett Ferentino said that without the concealed-handgun permit holder who wounded Allabaugh, “we believe that it could have been much worse that night.”
Spartanburg, S.C., March 2012: Armed with a shotgun, Jesse Gates kicked in a door to his church. Concealed-carry permit holder Aaron Guyton drew his gun and held Gates at gunpoint, enabling other parishioners to disarm Gates. Spartanburg County Sheriff Chuck Wright called the churchgoers heroes. Though Gates was stopped before anyone was harmed, he was still charged with one count of kidnapping and three counts of pointing and presenting a firearm.
Would kick em in the nuts
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D.C. Chief of Police DC Cathy Lanier disagrees with you. According to her, times have changed:

“What we tell them is the facts of the matter is that most active shooters kill most of the victims in 10 minutes or less, and the best police department in the country's going to be about a five-to-seven minute response . . .. I always say if you can get out, getting out's your first option, your best option. If you're in a position to try and take the gunman down, to take the gunman out, it's the best option for saving lives before police can get there. And that's-- you know, that's kind of counterintuitive to what cops always tell people, right? We always tell people, "Don't-- you know, don't take action. Call 911. Don't intervene in the robbery"-- you know-- you know-- we've never told people, "Take action." It's a different-- this is a different scenario . . . . You can be prepared and you can have a society that is resilient and alert and conscientious and safer without scaring people . . . . If you educate people on actions they can take to reduce their risk, then you can save some lives. And I think it's irresponsible for us not to do that . . . . That's not an option anymore.”


An analogy is that of the Monarch butterfly and the Viceroy moth. Viceroys are slow-moving, brightly-colored and tasty, which would ordinarily put them right at the top of every predator’s menu. Monarchs are slow-moving, brightly-colored and taste bad; once a predator has gotten hold of one or two of them, they’re so confused that they eventually stop going after Viceroys as well, because they can’t tell the difference between them. Concealed carriers look just like the rest of the population, and human predators are beginning to learn that that’s a problem. The wannabe mass-murderer at Clackamas Town Center, for example, was confronted with a credible threat of force by concealed carrier Nick Meli (in a supposedly gun-free zone whose signage he ignored!). Mr. Meli couldn’t pull the trigger, because he didn't have a clear shot, but the predator’s game plan didn’t include dealing with effective opposition, and he moved straight to his end game of suicide. He thought he was in a room full of Viceroys, and suddenly he discovered that (at least) one of them was a Monarch. We need more Monarchs in the population!
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
Irrelevant. The fact is, when guns were banned in your country, the murder rate went up, not down. Look it up. Also, once the murder rate actually started to go down, it went down in the US by the same amount, despite the guns.
our gun crime went from nothing to nothing. Meaningless
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How come in the movies one bad buy with a gun is able to take out 30-40 cops with far superior guns?
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