Title was supposed to say Lucifer not Lucille.

His name is only mentioned ONCE in the Bible. And the guy who said Lucifer in the Bible was talking about the north star. Something along the lines of alas Babylon has fallen and the north star, lucifer, has fallen.

So it's just Satan. I think.

Honestly, when I used to read fiction I always preferred Hardy Boys books to that dark religious stuff.

Chet was a good friend, always up to give a needed ride in his jalopy.

You picked a fine time to leave me…

How about you just say you're an atheist and leave it at that. There are different beliefs in this world, you know?

I want to hate you because I used to be you. So I hate what I was. Arrogant and self righteous. Luckily I found God and I pray you do as well. Even if the path is as rough as it was for me.

It's Moloch who the Jews worship.

Edgy

Lucifer means "light bringer" for bringing knowledge to humanity and being cast out of heaven for it. The same way prometheus gave man knowledge and was kicked off mount Olympus.

He was called morning star/light bringer after Venus. Venus rises just before the sun does in the sky, "bringing" the sun right after it.

Anything so innocent and built like that got to be named Lucille...

I always thought lucifer was more paradise lost than biblical.

An amazing amount of what we think of as biblical is actually from paradise lost, due to how much it has influenced popular culture.

Reminds me of Cthulhu, or Leviathan. A myhtical god who brought forth madness and demise by offering knowledge to truth seekers who couldn't handle it.

Why drag B. B. King into all of this?

My name is Beelzebub.


Don't forget it...

With your other thread about "condescending" atheists I just assumed this was yet another troll thread looking to start chit.

It doesn't bother me either way, I'll stay out of serious religious threads, and whatever the rest of this one becomes, mainly because I don't find it interesting.

Levay satanism is by far the Dumbest religion ever. It’s the biggest waste of time to follow.

If they are atheist why follow any religion? Stupid and bored imbeciles.

Lucifer is a title not a name. It means Light Bringer, or Morning Star. Jesus was also referred to as Lucifer as well.

Revelation 22:16 16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify to you about these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David,the bright morning star.”

If you actually read the bible, the stereotypical fire and brimstone Satan does not actually appear anywhere in the text.

And just when I thought you couldn’t be anymore insufferable…

How on earth did you get Lucille in the title?

My understanding is that Satan was more of a title during that age, like that of a prosecutor who would prosecute you during your final judgement with god.


"Lucifer" is the Latin term originally used by the Romans to refer to the planet
Venus when that planet was west of the sun and hence rose before the sun in the
morning, thereby being the morning star.
The same planet was called Hesperus, Cesperugo, Vesper, Noctifer, or
Nocturnus, when it appeared in the heavens after sunset. Although 19th and 20th
century occultists would equate other goddesses such as Astarte, Ashtoreth, Lilith,
Isis, Cemeramis, Mari, and Ishtar with Venus, links between the cultures and
attributes represented are not historically clear. Lucifer as a personification is called
a son of Astraeus and Aurora or Eos, of Cephalus and Aurora, or of Atlas. He is
called the father of Ceyx, Daedalion, and of the Hesperides. Lucifer is also a
surname of several goddesses of light, such as Artemis, Aurora, and Hecate.
1.
The word appears to have entered the religious lexicon when the Hebrew
expression in Isaiah 14:12, "HeYLeL BeN-ShaCHaR." (meaning "bright son of the
morning/dawn," "bright [and] morning star," "glowing morning star," or "shining
one, son of the dawn.")
2. was translated to "Phosphorus" (the Greek word for Venus
as the morning star) in the Septuagint, and then translated into "Lucifer" in the
Vulgate (from the Greek Septuagint). Isaiah 14, taken as a whole, is a parable, or
prophecy of denunciation against the Kings of Babylon, specifically Tiglath-pileser
III
3 In verse 12, the prophet characterizes the arrogance of Tiglath-pileser III as if
the king had thought himself fit to appear in the sky as the morning star, but has
fallen to earth, being brought low by the vengeance of the Lord against those who
would exalt themselves and persecute the Lord’s people (i.e., the Israelites).
Origenes Adamantius (185 CE - 254 CE), an important Christian scholar of the
early Greek Church, and Augustine of Canterbury (d. May 26 604/605 CE), founder
of the Christian Church in southern England, both interpreted the use of the term
Lucifer as a reference to the Devil.

The name Lucifer was applied to Satan by St. Jerome and later to the demon
of sinful pride by Milton in Paradise Lost. Lucifer is the title and principal character
of the epic poem by the Dutch playwright, Vondel (who uses Lucifer in lieu of
Satan), and a principal character in the mystery play by Imre Madach, "The
Tragedy of Man". Blake pictured Lucifer in his illustrations to Dante. George
Meredith’s sonnetLucifer in Starlight addresses the "fiend" as Prince Lucifer. To
Spenser in An Hymne of Heavenly Love, Lucifer is "the brightest angel, even the
Child of Light." In Ovid’s Metamorphosis, Lucifer is the morning star and father of
Ceyx. He is described as riding a white horse (clarus equo, book XV.189) and his
face is characterized by a bright gladness (see XI.270 ff. Lucifero genitore satus
patriumque nitorem ore ferens Ceyx). Also see Books II.115 and 723, IV.629,665.

The word "satan" is from a Hebrew word, "sathane", meaning adversary or
calumniator; in original Jewish usage (see the book of Job), the satan is the
adversary, not of God, but of mankind; i.e., the angel charged by God with the task
of proving that mankind is an unworthy creation.
5 Note though, that Balaam’s
satan (Numbers 22:23-33) protects him from harm.
6
Later, as Judaism absorbed such ideas as Zoroastrian dualism and concepts
about angels during the Exile, and then as Christianity echoed various concepts
from earlier religions, the concept of an evil power ruling an underground domain of
punishment for the wicked became fixed in Christian doctrine. In such a doctrine,
elements of the Graeco-Roman god Pluto/ Vulcan/ Hephaestus, the Underworld,
and various aspects of Nordic/Teutonic mythology may be traced.
The Latin name of Phosphorus, Venus as the morning star, is the light bringer
which heralds the dawn. The name is sometimes applied to the planet as the
evening star as well, although Hesperus is properly its name then. By a curious
chain of reference, the passage in Luke 10:18 was thought to refer to Isaiah 14:12,
in which the star is used metaphorically for the monarch of Babylon. Thus Lucifer
became the chief of the fallen angels, the name borned by Satan before his
rebellion.
7
"From a supposed reference to this passage in our Lord’s words. 'I beheld
Satan fallen as lightning from heaven' (Lk 10:18), in connexion with Rev 9:1-11
(the language of 9:1 being in part probably derived from this passage), Lucifer
came in the Middle Ages to be a common appellation of Satan. The star of Rev
9:1-11 is a fallen angel who has given to him the key of the abyss, from which he
sets loose upon the earth horribly formed locusts with scorpions' tails, who have,
however, power to hurt only such men as have not the seal of God on their


foreheads. But this angel is not actually identified with Satan by the writer of the
Apocalypse. The imagery in Is was no doubt suggested by a meteor, and possibly it
was so in Rev also."
8.
While some authors referred to Lucifer as Satan’s name before his expulsion from
Heaven, others referred to Lucifer and Satan as two distinct entities.
11. Both as a
literary convention and as Christian teachings or belief, historically there would
appear to be little consensus. Regardless, it should be clear that an author may use
the terms Lucifer or luciferian and not be referring to Satan.

https://www.newjerseygrandlodge.org/...r-or-Satan.pdf

The first part is correct, but...What do you mean by this? The old testament doesn't make it clear which is why Jews believe this but the new testament surely does.

And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years - Revelation 20:2

And he said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. - Luke 10:18


An Antichrist is anyone who rejects Christ according to John. The beast is the ruling end time kingdom that consists of 10 kings who give their authority to the Antichrist. 'The Antichrist' is usually used to describe the ultimate ruler of the beast kingdom.

That's the Jewish belief. The new testament makes it clear Satan is not only a 'prosecutor' but a sovereign being who acts in its own interests.

Satan has to be a female.

No man could ever treat another man as bad as a woman can treat a man. Not even the devil has the heart to do what women will casually do on the regular.

Satans a tranny