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post 1667424263 09-06-2022, 02:04 PM
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Barbell bench press vs Dumbbell bench press

Which would be better for gaining overall mass?
post 1667424943 09-06-2022, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Agent456
Which would be better for gaining overall mass?
Barbell.

More load = more mass

Also, once you get past 100 lb dumbbells getting them into position is a biatch.

But, ultimately, I use both. Usually BB BP followed by incline DB BP.
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post 1667425603 09-06-2022, 02:32 PM
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post 1667425673 09-06-2022, 02:32 PM
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I think everyone is different, I got up to 315lbs on bench and my chest didn’t have a lot of mass developed.

Movements like flys and peck deck actually seem to produce the most gains for my chest but my chest is my weakest area.
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post 1667426543 09-06-2022, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted By veggie530
Barbell.

More load = more mass

Also, once you get past 100 lb dumbbells getting them into position is a biatch.

But, ultimately, I use both. Usually BB BP followed by incline DB BP.
i only have dbs at home and it does get a bit precarious when the weight gets up there. always afraid my shoulders will take a trip to snap city getting them into position. not to mention the wasted fatigue even before you start
post 1667427223 09-06-2022, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted By Agent456
Which would be better for gaining overall mass?
Dumbbell is WAY better.

Many people bring the barbell down toward their neck and that is not going to build your chest well. You want to bring the weights down in line with your xiphoid process which is the bottom tip of your sternum.

Put a finger on your pec and pretend you are doing bench from your neck and then the bottom of your sterum. You will feel the pec muscle flex much more lower on the sternum.

It's easy to get dumbbells aimed over that area.

With dumbbells, you will be lifting equally on both sides of your body.

With barbells, you will not be lifting equally as your dominant hand will do more lifting, thus creating an unbalanced physique.

Also, dumbbells help a lot with developing stabilizing muscles in the parts of the body supporting the lift. When you first start doing dumbbells you will be shaking a lot with heavy weights, but that will go away over time. With a barbell there's much less of that so you are not developing stabilizers.

You will lift more weight with a barbell but your isolation and ability to position the dumbbell will give you better gains at a lighter weight.
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post 1667427433 09-06-2022, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted By veggie530
Barbell.

More load = more mass

Also, once you get past 100 lb dumbbells getting them into position is a biatch.

But, ultimately, I use both. Usually BB BP followed by incline DB BP.
Time under tension equals more mass.

That means high volume workouts create mass, not heavy weights with less reps.

You can build a very large amount of muscle mass with something like German Volume Train which is 10X10 as compared to repping your max a few times.
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post 1667427513 09-06-2022, 03:08 PM
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For hypertrophy, dumbbells. But only if you utilize them correctly and take advantage of everything they have to offer over barbells.
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post 1667427633 09-06-2022, 03:10 PM
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What are you trying to target more of?
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barbell for sure
post 1667427823 09-06-2022, 03:13 PM
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Got my chest pretty big doing 100s dbs for reps.

Barbell is second, I feel like there's a lot more chance of injury.
post 1667428473 09-06-2022, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted By veggie530
Barbell.

More load = more mass

Also, once you get past 100 lb dumbbells getting them into position is a biatch.

But, ultimately, I use both. Usually BB BP followed by incline DB BP.
Imo, it's the resistance that results in mass not the load. Resistance being the difficulty it takes for you to perform the exercise. If it's hard enough where you're in the hypertrophy range for reps then you're probably gonna grow.
post 1667428753 09-06-2022, 03:31 PM
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Barbell.

But personally I switched to inclines a while ago to emphasize upper chest and shoulders which are my weak points.
post 1667429523 09-06-2022, 03:52 PM
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if you want to ask my advanced biomechanics viewpoint i would have to say a smith machine is going to be most optimal.

The issue you have with dumbbells is you really have to have your stabilizer muscles all within very proximal relative strength for you to truly isolate pecs in the proper alignment with hand, humerus, wrist angles and range of motion angle. Even then most people are going to WAY over use deltoids with dumbbells.

For a smith you are pretty locked in and can also use the bar to create a strong chain of tension in the correct muscle chain to keep tension in your pecs by gripping the bar in way that you slightly cock your hand pronated and "bend" the bar as you press. Having the proper humerus angle and driving the bar up and away not just up and forward allows you to create an optimal guided path where dumbbells it can be trickier and then involve LOTS of deltoids.
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post 1667430093 09-06-2022, 04:03 PM
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Mass where dammit? Overall upper body? Chest specifically?
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post 1667430183 09-06-2022, 04:07 PM
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barbells are great for impingement
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