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post 1667443123 09-06-2022, 09:09 PM
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Vaxcels can you deboonk this for me? Vaccine related

Article claims that vaccine deaths are expected to happen with 5 months of injection:

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/t...m_medium=email

Will be telling family not to get the vaccine as this article is pretty legit to me.
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When you on dat high protein diet and just smashed 5 eggs with 2 scoops of protein shake, then release the cough of a ginormous fudge cobra

6:43-6:50

https://youtu.be/wxyIruYbBtw?t=404
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Originally Posted By Schnitzl
When you on dat high protein diet and just smashed 5 eggs with 2 scoops of protein shake, then release the cough of a ginormous fudge cobra

6:43-6:50

https://youtu.be/wxyIruYbBtw?t=404
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Originally Posted By MiscMathematician
cant be true. Israel has required like 3 boosters
it does not mean every person dies within 5 months. so what are you saying?
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not a fan of vaccine mandates or a lot of the blatant lying from the media (like brazenly denying that natural immunity even exists) but this has to be comedy:
I got this chart from a whistleblower who works for HHS. This is data you are not supposed to see. The mortality increase (60% at peak) is huge. That sort of increase can only be caused by something novel that affected massive numbers of people.

There is only one possibility that fits that: the COVID vaccine.
it's kind of comical to declare an increase in all cause mortality can only happen from something "novel that affected massive numbers of people" and show a graph that this death peaks in september and then ignore that the delta wave peaked in september of 2021 as well:



don't get me wrong there are a lot of plausible explanations for deaths but the minute someone says "there is only one possibility" they lose ALL credibility
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Originally Posted By cramer1995
not a fan of vaccine mandates or a lot of the blatant lying from the media (like brazenly denying that natural immunity even exists) but this has to be comedy:



it's kind of comical to declare an increase in all cause mortality can only happen from something "novel that affected massive numbers of people" and show a graph that this death peaks in september and then ignore that the delta wave peaked in september of 2021 as well:



don't get me wrong there are a lot of plausible explanations for deaths but the minute someone says "there is only one possibility" they lose ALL credibility
your graph refers to cases though?
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Originally Posted By heiltrump2024
your graph refers to cases though?
well it shows both cases and hospitalizations but i think the point is pretty obvious. what, you want me to find one for deaths? the whole point is if someone claims there is "only one" explanation for excess mortality in the middle of a pandemic they don't seem very credible, do they?
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Well 80% of Americans have been vaxxed, and I don't see any mass extinction here. Honestly, you guys are just sad. You're scared of the shot. Fine. Move on with your life. Not everyone has to agree with you or entertain your rationalizations or delusions.
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Originally Posted By fistnazis4fun
Well 80% of Americans have been vaxxed, and I don't see any mass extinction here. Honestly, you guys are just sad. You're scared of the shot. Fine. Move on with your life. Not everyone has to agree with you or entertain your rationalizations or delusions.
and you're scared of a virus with 99.7% survival rate JFL
post 1667444203 09-06-2022, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted By cramer1995
well it shows both cases and hospitalizations but i think the point is pretty obvious. what, you want me to find one for deaths? the whole point is if someone claims there is "only one" explanation for excess mortality in the middle of a pandemic they don't seem very credible, do they?
i'm not interested in questioning credibility in that way. moreso with facts/logic. if you want to go that route, you can argue that if a person says it is impossible for the covid vaccines to be responsible, that isn't very credible either, which is the route every major institution has taken.

that being said - you may have a point in that delta deaths may have peaked in september 2021, but how will you use this logic if there are death peaks in may of 2022, when the vaccines were administered the most in december of 2021 (5 months earlier)? was there a peak in covid deaths/cases of the omicron variant in may? hint: there are no peaks in covid deaths in may.
post 1667444353 09-06-2022, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted By heiltrump2024
and you're scared of a virus with 99.7% survival rate JFL
I know it affects your nervous system. If I am given the option to take a vaccine and the literature indicates it is likely safe, I am going to take it over getting the virus. It's not a matter of death to me. It's a matter of me not wanting to share in your disgusting germs and get sick. You people can live like pigs if you want.

They should never have tried to mandate anything because now every retard has an opinion on vaccines and biology, and it's just nonstop bs from people. We still had a million die so who gives a chit? Our people are just straight up subhuman compared to the Chinese, and they will just beat us at everything. Just gotta get used to it and stop trying to fight it.
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Originally Posted By fistnazis4fun
I know it affects your nervous system. If I am given the option to take a vaccine and the literature indicates it is likely safe, I am going to take it over getting the virus. It's not a matter of death to me. It's a matter of me not wanting to share in your disgusting germs and get sick. You people can live like pigs if you want.
every one of my family members got it, including myself. nobody died and nobody had nervous system issues.
post 1667444463 09-06-2022, 09:37 PM
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Substack?! Are they even sponsored by any pharmaceutical companies?

Didn't think so. Debunked.
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Originally Posted By heiltrump2024
every one of my family members got it, including myself. nobody died and nobody had nervous system issues.
But they all got covid. Lmaooooo
post 1667444523 09-06-2022, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted By heiltrump2024
every one of my family members got it, including myself. nobody died and nobody had nervous system issues.
The most common symptom is a total loss of taste and smell, sometimes for weeks. That's a nervous system thing. No thanks.
post 1667444633 09-06-2022, 09:39 PM
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i think i got it again and am just debating whether i should get the vaccine at this point tbh.
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They should never have tried to mandate anything because now every retard has an opinion on vaccines and biology, and it's just nonstop bs from people.We still had a million dieso who gives a chit? Our people are just straight up subhuman compared to the Chinese, and they will just beat us at everything. Just gotta get used to it and stop trying to fight it.
breh

Below guy is the chief medical officer in LA county:
i think i got it again and am just debating whether i should get the vaccine at this point tbh.
but you have natural immunity now.. why the fuk would you jab yourself
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Originally Posted By Eterniity
i think i got it again and am just debating whether i should get the vaccine at this point tbh.
Won't matter if you've literally had it twice lol.
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Originally Posted By heiltrump2024
i'm not interested in questioning credibility in that way. moreso with facts/logic.
how is it not "logic" to point out that someone is claiming there is "only one explanation" when there's clearly other explanations? that IS a logical argument.
if you want to go that route, you can argue that if a person says it is impossible for the covid vaccines to be responsible, that isn't very credible either, which is the route every major institution has taken.
i wholeheartedly agree that anyone claiming it is "impossible" for vaccines to be responsible for excess mortality is either lying or ignorant. but that's a whataboutism. i never claimed to agree with those people. i'm only responding to the article you linked since you asked for responses.
that being said - you may have a point in that delta deaths may have peaked in september 2021, but how will you use this logic if there are death peaks in may of 2022, when the vaccines were administered the most in december of 2021 (5 months earlier)? was there a peak in covid deaths/cases of the omicron variant in may? hint: there are no peaks in covid deaths in may
where is the may 2022 death peak?
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Originally Posted By fistnazis4fun
The most common symptom is a total loss of taste and smell, sometimes for weeks. That's a nervous system thing. No thanks.
that's just objectively untrue at least with omicron.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...327-0/fulltext
Loss of smell was less common in participants infected during omicron prevalence than during delta prevalence (16·7% vs 52·7%, odds ratio [OR] 0·17; 95% CI 0·16–0·19, p<0·001). Sore throat was more common during omicron prevalence than during delta prevalence (70·5% vs 60·8%, 1·55; 1·43–1·69, p<0·001).
even during delta it was not "the most common symptom"
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Originally Posted By MiscMathematician
The Jews would not kill their own people
They did in WWII. Wealthy American Jews stood by idly as poor European Jews were killed.

They were ashamed of the holocaust until many years after the end of the war when it was turned into something lucrative by the same American Jews who had no actual family members die in the war. Norman Finkelstein wrote a book about it called The Holocaust Industry.

None of this is to say that the article in the OP is necessarily true, but the idea that Jews wouldn't harm themselves isn't. In addition to this, many Israelis aren't considered "real" Jews by the Ashkenazi.
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Originally Posted By fistnazis4fun
Won't matter if you've literally had it twice lol.
eh, second time i had it was pretty ****ty ngl bro. i can definitely see why people were dying from it. i'd get it moreso for the convenience.
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Originally Posted By heiltrump2024
breh

Most covid+ deaths are not due to covid itself period. It's the same with flu. They cause secondary complications that kill people. Again, this has been brought up to death and you can check excess deaths to see. And this happened everywhere in the world so it can't be some massive conspiracy. Covid is a real virus. It killed a lot of people. That this is hard for people to acknowledge is just absolutely batchit. That it has become some kind of political badge you wear to not get vaccinated or to get vaccinated is deranged. You shouldn't just go and get every vaccine under the sun and suck pfizer's dick, nor should you reject vaccines and become one of those hippy antiscience retards. You should read the science, talk to your doctor, and do what is appropriate for you. This entire situation has been a fuking circus. You have no idea how irritating it is for ppl with some education in biology to have to explain this chit day in, day out to ppl. It is tiresome. If you don't want to get a shot, don't.

It can be fun trolling retards and posting pics of Bill Gates and chit and saying we're gonna stick ya, but at some point, it's just fuking dumb.
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Cut the shiet OP. The shot won't kill you and neither will the Chinese flu.
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Originally Posted By cramer1995
how is it not "logic" to point out that someone is claiming there is "only one explanation" when there's clearly other explanations? that IS a logical argument.



i wholeheartedly agree that anyone claiming it is "impossible" for vaccines to be responsible for excess mortality is either lying or ignorant. but that's a whataboutism. i never claimed to agree with those people. i'm only responding to the article you linked since you asked for responses.



where is the may 2022 death peak?
i'm still searching for the may 2022 data. however, it seems the author addressed your question about delta, see quote below:
Delta started on July 1, 2021 and ended on December 15, 2021. So we’d expect more of a plateau rather than a sharp peak if it was Delta.

But we know from the Massachusetts death data obtained under a FOIA request that the cause of death in 2021 shifted to the circulatory system, rather than the respiratory system according to the analysis of the ICD10 codes associated with the death records.

In addition, the insurance companies confirmed it wasn’t COVID that was causing the excess deaths.

And then we have plenty of stories of vaccine victims dying around 5 months after the shot.

And we have the emergency study in Israel showing a 25% increase in calls between January and May, 2021. What’s interesting is that the authors of the paper were not allowed access to the same emergency call data after May, 2021 (they asked and were denied). That’s a huge red flag. COVID doesn’t cause cardiac issues. And the drug companies are trying to get that paper retracted.

And now we have the disclosure that the Israeli Ministry of Health deliberately withheld vaccine safety data from the people of Israel. It seems the vaccine isn’t as safe as the told people. So when they found that out, they manipulated the data to make it look safe and released the manipulated report, something that is clearly illegal and unethical. The mainstream press refused to cover the story.

So the evidence seems more consistent with vaccine deaths than COVID deaths.
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Originally Posted By Eterniity
eh, second time i had it was pretty ****ty ngl bro. i can definitely see why people were dying from it. i'd get it moreso for the convenience.
your second time was worse than the first? what were your symptoms / how long?
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Originally Posted By Eterniity
eh, second time i had it was pretty ****ty ngl bro. i can definitely see why people were dying from it. i'd get it moreso for the convenience.
Exactly why I got vaccinated. I know it probably won't kill me, but it is an absolute chit virus and some ppl get really sick and lose taste and smell for weeks or even months. And that means it does some chit to your brain because it isn't just congestion at that point. I don't want to fuk with that.
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Originally Posted By MiscMathematician
The Jews would not kill their own people
Strong lack of understanding

The Jews sacrifice their own kind all the time.

Holocaust means burnt offering. Even the average Jew is a 'goyim' to the rothschilds. They're useful idiots
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Originally Posted By fistnazis4fun
Most covid+ deaths are not due to covid itself period. It's the same with flu. They cause secondary complications that kill people. Again, this has been brought up to death and you can check excess deaths to see. And this happened everywhere in the world so it can't be some massive conspiracy. Covid is a real virus. It killed a lot of people. That this is hard for people to acknowledge is just absolutely batchit. That it has become some kind of political badge you wear to not get vaccinated or to get vaccinated is deranged. You shouldn't just go and get every vaccine under the sun and suck pfizer's dick, nor should you reject vaccines and become one of those hippy antiscience retards. You should read the science, talk to your doctor, and do what is appropriate for you. This entire situation has been a fuking circus. You have no idea how irritating it is for ppl with some education in biology to have to explain this chit day in, day out to ppl. It is tiresome. If you don't want to get a shot, don't.

It can be fun trolling retards and posting pics of Bill Gates and chit and saying we're gonna stick ya, but at some point, it's just fuking dumb.
covid is a real virus for people who are old and immunocompromised. clearly if you have weak organs due to old age, a virus like this could kill you. even italy published data saying that 97% of their covid deaths were in people that were old with 1 or more comorbidities:

https://www.epicentro.iss.it/en/coro...tober_2021.pdf

to say 1 million people died of covid as the PRIMARY cause is disingenous.
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Originally Posted By heiltrump2024
i'm still searching for the may 2022 data. however, it seems the author addressed your question about delta, see quote below:
That's complete bs, and delta also ravaged the world and killed a ton of unvaccinated people in other parts of the world. You can find "experts" who justify all kind of bs and take contrarian views. It doesn't make it true. Everyone knows the virus existed, spread, killed a bunch of people and generally sucked ass. There's been this weird ass campaign by people against basic logic. It's like some kind of weird groupthink.
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Originally Posted By heiltrump2024
covid is a real virus for people who are old and immunocompromised. clearly if you have weak organs due to old age, a virus like this could kill you. even italy published data saying that 97% of their covid deaths were in people that were old with 1 or more comorbidities:

https://www.epicentro.iss.it/en/coro...tober_2021.pdf

to say 1 million people died of covid as the PRIMARY cause is disingenous.
that really depends on what you consider a "primary" cause. if someone has diabetes and dies from a flu infection where they otherwise would still be alive, did the flu kill them? if you say no, then that means pretty much no viruses actually kill people, since it's almost always a complication of a virus or some existing condition that kills them.
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