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10-26-2022, 09:13 AM
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Stay variable rate or switch for fixed?
What does the misc think? Should I stay on a variable rate mortgage with a 0.95 discount on prime or accept an offer today for a 60 month fixed rate of 5.25%?
Beavercell in Ontario for reference
What are we thinking the prime rate could go up to?
My rate right now is 4.5% as prime is currently 5.45%
Beavercell in Ontario for reference
What are we thinking the prime rate could go up to?
My rate right now is 4.5% as prime is currently 5.45%
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10-26-2022, 09:37 AM
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Honestly doesnt matter much at this point. When rates drop again, lock in a lower fixed rate, but in the mean time your fixed rate will be **** and you wont want that in 3-5 years when rates come back down, and your variable rate will be **** as well until rates drop but at least it might come back down vs the fixed.
Wait, regret, make the change to a fixed when rates are lower and more stable
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edit: didnt notice it was a car loan not a housing loan. beating the market right now on one side... rates are probably still fukked in the short term though so I could see that creeping up. For me, I'd lock in the 5 for peace of mind, its only 5 years, but, if you like riskier stuff, do the yolo play on a variable rate and maybe you'll come out ahead. At this point you have 200 bps to play with before you take a loss.
Wait, regret, make the change to a fixed when rates are lower and more stable
-Bulge Bracket former Banker turned PE dink sukker.
edit: didnt notice it was a car loan not a housing loan. beating the market right now on one side... rates are probably still fukked in the short term though so I could see that creeping up. For me, I'd lock in the 5 for peace of mind, its only 5 years, but, if you like riskier stuff, do the yolo play on a variable rate and maybe you'll come out ahead. At this point you have 200 bps to play with before you take a loss.
10-26-2022, 09:38 AM
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lol at you variablecells! Locked in at 1.08% for the last year...gotta another 2 years left.
10-26-2022, 09:40 AM
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10-26-2022, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted By HTDG⏩
It is a house loan...Honestly doesnt matter much at this point. When rates drop again, lock in a lower fixed rate, but in the mean time your fixed rate will be **** and you wont want that in 3-5 years when rates come back down, and your variable rate will be **** as well until rates drop but at least it might come back down vs the fixed.
Wait, regret, make the change to a fixed when rates are lower and more stable
-Bulge Bracket former Banker turned PE dink sukker.
edit: didnt notice it was a car loan not a housing loan. beating the market right now on one side... rates are probably still fukked in the short term though so I could see that creeping up. For me, I'd lock in the 5 for peace of mind, its only 5 years, but, if you like riskier stuff, do the yolo play on a variable rate and maybe you'll come out ahead. At this point you have 200 bps to play with before you take a loss.
Wait, regret, make the change to a fixed when rates are lower and more stable
-Bulge Bracket former Banker turned PE dink sukker.
edit: didnt notice it was a car loan not a housing loan. beating the market right now on one side... rates are probably still fukked in the short term though so I could see that creeping up. For me, I'd lock in the 5 for peace of mind, its only 5 years, but, if you like riskier stuff, do the yolo play on a variable rate and maybe you'll come out ahead. At this point you have 200 bps to play with before you take a loss.
your original advice seems solid, I was thinking the same not much to gain or save by taking the fixed rate over the variable other than peace of mind if the rate goes over 6.2% and even then is it going to stay above that for 5 years? Hard to see that. Prime rate was like 3.2% (my rate was 2.25% with my discount on prime) when we got the mortgage and at that time they offered us a 5% fixed rate
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10-26-2022, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Are you Canadian? I think things are slightly different here but admittedly I am very green and this is my first time around doing this. We used a broker who was a complete dumb fuhk recommended to me by family so I wouldn't doubt he didn't get us the best deal he could. Certainly would do things differently a second time around.Shop around the next time.
5% fixed is laughable if prime was at 3.2%.
5% fixed is laughable if prime was at 3.2%.

But as far as I can tell the 5% fixed rate is not unusual, it seems like its pretty average. Ref this website:
https://rates.ca/mortgage-rates/ontario
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10-26-2022, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
So rates did go up today then, site i was checking says its still 5.45%That's for today. BoC prime rate today is 5.95%...
When did you get the 5% offered to you?
When did you get the 5% offered to you?
I applied for and got the mortgage in April I believe. The offer was 2.25% variable (0.95 discount on BoC Prime) or 5% fixed. Last Wednesday I requested an offer to switch to fixed rate right now and they offered me 5.25% for 60 months, expires today...
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10-26-2022, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
In what way did I get washed? You think I should have been offered a better fixed rate?Well, you got taken to the cleaners in April, sorry to say.
As for whether you should switch or not... It depends on your personal risk tolerance.
5 years @ 5.25% fixed doesn't sound bad, since you're at 5% anyway, and it's only locked for 5 years.
Check your penalties for refinancing in the future prior to the end of the term.
As for whether you should switch or not... It depends on your personal risk tolerance.
5 years @ 5.25% fixed doesn't sound bad, since you're at 5% anyway, and it's only locked for 5 years.
Check your penalties for refinancing in the future prior to the end of the term.
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10-26-2022, 10:29 AM
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10-26-2022, 10:41 AM
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10-26-2022, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
fuark i guess its time to ropeShould have been able to get closer to 4%, probably even sub 4% for 5 years.
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10-26-2022, 10:54 AM
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Do variable rate mortgages in Canada have Caps like they do in the US?
I think I'd choose an ARM right now.
I think I'd choose an ARM right now.
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