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11-08-2022, 04:56 AM
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Andrew Tate destroys BJJ
Its over for you BJJcels
11-08-2022, 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted By TCmaxxing⏩
Jake paul would mog them all and he’s a YouTuber. That’s how beta BJJ is.That’s why Conor would beat Khabib in a street fight
11-19-2022, 09:54 AM
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I like watching his fights.
11-19-2022, 09:56 AM
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I always wonder why in street fights more people don't gouge the other dudes eyes out.
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11-19-2022, 10:13 AM
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Wrestling is fantastic to know but kinda agree with BJJ except knowing how to properly choke (could easily be learned from youtube if you have a partner) and sweeps from the bottom. Never done any but I feel like they're useful to know.
I've been in a small number of fights and used heavy wrestling in all of them.
In one, I shot a double-leg while surrounded. I slammed the dude down, ended up on top, and got booted in the face by his friend. End of fight.
In a different confrontation the man was much larger than me. I shot a low-level single (exactly like my avi) and once i hooked the heel i tried to blow his knee out with my shoulder. He went down and we quickly got separated and he was able to stand/walk afterwards so not much to say.
The ability to control hips/weight/leverage was immensely helpful in all of them except those 2 because they were so quick.. But i wrestled for 11 years and i've only done bjj for 2 years.
I've been in a small number of fights and used heavy wrestling in all of them.
In one, I shot a double-leg while surrounded. I slammed the dude down, ended up on top, and got booted in the face by his friend. End of fight.
In a different confrontation the man was much larger than me. I shot a low-level single (exactly like my avi) and once i hooked the heel i tried to blow his knee out with my shoulder. He went down and we quickly got separated and he was able to stand/walk afterwards so not much to say.
The ability to control hips/weight/leverage was immensely helpful in all of them except those 2 because they were so quick.. But i wrestled for 11 years and i've only done bjj for 2 years.
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11-19-2022, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway⏩
Head butt or kick to the balls are the best moves to use srsI always wonder why in street fights more people don't gouge the other dudes eyes out.
Headbutts work extremely well if they are little taller than you too so you can crush their sternum
11-19-2022, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
No, he's pretty much spot on. Obviously if its a typical 'street fight' between two dudes that know each other and aren't trying to kill each other that doesn't apply. Especially if you each have friends to make sure no-one goes 'too far'. Or if you work in some kind of law enforcement/security capacity and you are trying to actively detain that subject. In that case BJJ/wrestling is useful.Some of the things he said are very true, some of things he said are really stupid.
The idea that everyone is going to fight 'fair' and nobody is going to bring a gun or knife into play or some third party won't get involved is naive. If you are on the ground you sacrifice distance if he presents a knife. Flight if he presents a gun. And mobility if a third party gets involved.
A 8 times world champion BJJ guy just got murdered in Brazil over a bar fight by an off duty military police who had a gun. Yes technically he 'won' the physical altercation by subduing the guy with BJJ. Then after the guy was free he shot him.
In general the dumbest thing you can do is be rolling around on the ground grappling with a random guy in a altercation. If you absolutely must engage you should probably hit them then run. Stay on your feet. Stay moving. Keep aware of everyone around you. Then get leave.
11-19-2022, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted By guest89⏩
Sure, but "completely useless" is very dumb. With that said - for actual self defense/"street fighting" Boxing + Judo (legit Judo, not McDojo) is best imo.No, he's pretty much spot on. Obviously if its a typical 'street fight' between two dudes that know each other and aren't trying to kill each other that doesn't apply. Especially if you each have friends to make sure no-one goes 'too far'. Or if you work in some kind of law enforcement/security capacity and you are trying to actively detain that subject. In that case BJJ/wrestling is useful.
The idea that everyone is going to fight 'fair' and nobody is going to bring a gun or knife into play or some third party won't get involved is naive. If you are on the ground you sacrifice distance if he presents a knife. Flight if he presents a gun. And mobility if a third party gets involved.
A 8 times world champion BJJ guy just got murdered in Brazil over a bar fight by an off duty military police who had a gun. Yes technically he 'won' the physical altercation by subduing the guy with BJJ. Then after the guy was free he shot him.
In general the dumbest thing you can do is be rolling around on the ground grappling with a random guy in a altercation. If you absolutely must engage you should probably hit them then run. Stay on your feet. Stay moving. Keep aware of everyone around you. Then get leave.
The idea that everyone is going to fight 'fair' and nobody is going to bring a gun or knife into play or some third party won't get involved is naive. If you are on the ground you sacrifice distance if he presents a knife. Flight if he presents a gun. And mobility if a third party gets involved.
A 8 times world champion BJJ guy just got murdered in Brazil over a bar fight by an off duty military police who had a gun. Yes technically he 'won' the physical altercation by subduing the guy with BJJ. Then after the guy was free he shot him.
In general the dumbest thing you can do is be rolling around on the ground grappling with a random guy in a altercation. If you absolutely must engage you should probably hit them then run. Stay on your feet. Stay moving. Keep aware of everyone around you. Then get leave.
11-19-2022, 10:33 AM
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LOL at these morons talking about a sport's technique being used in a street fight.
If anyone is getting in a street fight you are a moron.
Pack heat for self defense.
If anyone is getting in a street fight you are a moron.
Pack heat for self defense.
11-19-2022, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
When it comes to practicality/time his argument makes sense though. For the 'average' man who just wants to be able to protect himself you can just do boxing a couple of times per week and have great cardio benefits and you learn all the technique/skill you need for unarmed self defense.Sure, but "completely useless" is very dumb. With that said - for actual self defense/"street fighting" Boxing + Judo (legit Judo, not McDojo) is best imo.
Sure you can train BJJ just twice per week also. But BJJ by itself really isn't 'enough'. How many martial arts are we going to train for how many hours per week just in case there is an off chance we need to defend ourselves? The average guy with a full life/busy schedule isn't going to be training multiple martial arts on a consistent basis.
Pat MacNamara has been saying the same thing for years.
11-30-2022, 06:50 AM
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11-30-2022, 07:09 AM
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Depends on if its 1v1 or not
Most of the time angry drunk guy wanting to fight you has a buncha drunk friends ready to kick you in the head when you start winning
If there's more than one then you have to try to keep them all in front of you while you knock them out 1 at a time while moving constantly, unless they're DYEL 18 year old skinnyboiz or something
BJJ is good if you're actually good at it and strong, but most BJJ guys are weak or haven't practiced it long enough to be any good, so any wrestler or just generally strong guy can rip right out of their submission
Most of the time angry drunk guy wanting to fight you has a buncha drunk friends ready to kick you in the head when you start winning
If there's more than one then you have to try to keep them all in front of you while you knock them out 1 at a time while moving constantly, unless they're DYEL 18 year old skinnyboiz or something
BJJ is good if you're actually good at it and strong, but most BJJ guys are weak or haven't practiced it long enough to be any good, so any wrestler or just generally strong guy can rip right out of their submission
11-30-2022, 07:18 AM
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Let's be honest, most people don't know how to fight for chit or throw a punch. so if you know any combat art you already have a huge leg up. if not from the fitness/cardio and strength you gain from it. wouldn't say BJJ is useless in a street fight though. alot of schools do train takedowns and stand up grappling. obv not as much as wrestling.
But also think of it this way, in the event that you DO get taken down, say you slip, trip and/or the guy lands on top of you for whatever reason. Getting it to the ground isn't ideal but in the event that it DOES happen for whatever reason, wouldn't you at least want to know how to reverse the position, break limbs or choke a person? somebody who is a boxer wouldn't be able to know how to escape that. being taken to the ground and being completely helpless and not being able to get out would really suck. Ofc being strong and not being a twink ALSO helps.
obv alot of other factors as well, but that goes for any martial art. what if somebody pulls out a knife/gun? what if the guy is like 300 lbs? what if its 5 on 1. nothing will help you except de-escalation, intelligence and/or a great 100 yard dash.
But also think of it this way, in the event that you DO get taken down, say you slip, trip and/or the guy lands on top of you for whatever reason. Getting it to the ground isn't ideal but in the event that it DOES happen for whatever reason, wouldn't you at least want to know how to reverse the position, break limbs or choke a person? somebody who is a boxer wouldn't be able to know how to escape that. being taken to the ground and being completely helpless and not being able to get out would really suck. Ofc being strong and not being a twink ALSO helps.
obv alot of other factors as well, but that goes for any martial art. what if somebody pulls out a knife/gun? what if the guy is like 300 lbs? what if its 5 on 1. nothing will help you except de-escalation, intelligence and/or a great 100 yard dash.
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Originally Posted By guest89⏩
None of what you said is wrong but thats approaching empty handed skills from the wrong angle imo.No, he's pretty much spot on. Obviously if its a typical 'street fight' between two dudes that know each other and aren't trying to kill each other that doesn't apply. Especially if you each have friends to make sure no-one goes 'too far'. Or if you work in some kind of law enforcement/security capacity and you are trying to actively detain that subject. In that case BJJ/wrestling is useful.
The idea that everyone is going to fight 'fair' and nobody is going to bring a gun or knife into play or some third party won't get involved is naive. If you are on the ground you sacrifice distance if he presents a knife. Flight if he presents a gun. And mobility if a third party gets involved.
A 8 times world champion BJJ guy just got murdered in Brazil over a bar fight by an off duty military police who had a gun. Yes technically he 'won' the physical altercation by subduing the guy with BJJ. Then after the guy was free he shot him.
In general the dumbest thing you can do is be rolling around on the ground grappling with a random guy in a one altercation. If you absolutely must engage you should probably hit them then run. Stay on your feet. Stay moving. Keep aware of everyone around you. Then get leave.
The idea that everyone is going to fight 'fair' and nobody is going to bring a gun or knife into play or some third party won't get involved is naive. If you are on the ground you sacrifice distance if he presents a knife. Flight if he presents a gun. And mobility if a third party gets involved.
A 8 times world champion BJJ guy just got murdered in Brazil over a bar fight by an off duty military police who had a gun. Yes technically he 'won' the physical altercation by subduing the guy with BJJ. Then after the guy was free he shot him.
In general the dumbest thing you can do is be rolling around on the ground grappling with a random guy in a one altercation. If you absolutely must engage you should probably hit them then run. Stay on your feet. Stay moving. Keep aware of everyone around you. Then get leave.
This shouldn’t be the first line of defense it’s the last. You couldn’t run away/deescalate in time and the fight is on. IMO BJJ and other grappling skills will give you a better advantage when it come to weapon retention while fighting, it also places a heavy emphasis on controlling your opponents body position and movement.
If your opponent already drew a knife or a gun then they need to be shot. If you are currently rolling with them then the entire point is to be stuffing their attempting and withdraw a weapon by proper body control.
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