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post 1674593683 01-11-2023, 12:07 PM
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How Much of Your Personality is Nurture VS Nature?

Just you.

Sometimes I wonder if nature is indeed stronger than nurture.

-I was born in an extremist Christian family (extreme conservative values)

-I was indoctrinated by CCP education for the first 12 yrs of my life (extreme buck breaking education; become a beta spineless coward; instill China girl beauty standards; didn't speak a word of English until I was 12)



Then I came to Canada

- I learned how to speak English better than most Native English speakers despite not speaking a word of English in the most formative years of my life. I'm linguistically talented. This is nature.
- I saw the first big tiddy white girl. All 12 years of the most formative beauty standard brainwashing went out the window.
- I didn't go to Univ. I became an athlete behind my parents back.
- I moved out and started slaying and never stopped
- Also grew up in the most ghetto part of Toronto full of government housing and black people. That is my peoples. but I moved out of the hood and got a corporate job somehow without a uni education. i didn't become a crime statistic.


Basically my strict, harsh upbringing couldn't put a dent in my nature 1 bit.




Let's hear your story
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Yes? I’ll have a chicken chow mein , and chicken curry with two chips please
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Id say 30 nature - 70 nurture.
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Originally Posted By syrk
Yes? I’ll have a chicken chow mein , and chicken curry with two chips please
Originally Posted By cobhc
No such thing as Chinese Christians.
post 1674594423 01-11-2023, 12:17 PM
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charisma is almost as genetic as face aka there's no hope for u brahs on both counts srs
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I think a lot changes when you succeed, and differences come up from bad environments maybe more than from nature.
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Originally Posted By Ratfish
charisma is almost as genetic as face aka there's no hope for u brahs on both counts srs
this is true. charisma is entirely genetic. most asian brahs do not have it. most asian brahs also have very poor linguistic skills. that's why despite the good grades/results/effort they cannot get promoted.


I have a lot of charisma. that's why i'm like an enigma. My nature won one more again.
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Originally Posted By GoldenBuII
this is true. charisma is entirely genetic. most asian brahs do not have it. most asian brahs also have very poor linguistic skills. that's why despite the good grades/results/effort they cannot get promoted.


I have a lot of charisma. that's why i'm like an enigma. My nature won one more again.
Srs response, no racist

Biggest thing I noticed about Chinese/Chinese-American people I was friends/went to school with is that their memory is amazing but they struggled applying any of it. Most of them are stuck reviewing shop drawings and didn't get far in the field. Also communication skills are critical in construction and they're mostly chill/quiet dudes.
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Its mostly nature but nurture is also nature...

What I mean by this is I have 2 kids and I think their personalities are mostly completely nature. However I take care of them really well and doing so is my nature. So nature effects nurture blah blah blah where is the line drawn? Its not really worth discussing imo. What it boils down to is if the same couple had 12 kids they would all be completely different.
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Originally Posted By cobhc
Srs response, no racist

Biggest thing I noticed about Chinese/Chinese-American people I was friends/went to school with is that their memory is amazing but they struggled applying any of it. Most of them are stuck reviewing shop drawings and didn't get far in the field. Also communication skills are critical in construction and they're mostly chill/quiet dudes.
This. There’s a very smart Chinese woman on our team that spent almost all of her life in China, and moved to Canada in her late 20s. She struggles to get her point across in an engaging manner despite her logic being her sound.

She’s a cyber threat analyst for context.
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Originally Posted By cobhc
Srs response, no racist

Biggest thing I noticed about Chinese/Chinese-American people I was friends/went to school with is that their memory is amazing but they struggled applying any of it. Most of them are stuck reviewing shop drawings and didn't get far in the field. Also communication skills are critical in construction and they're mostly chill/quiet dudes.
This is why nature wins over nurture.


Can you teach one of those guys to do stand-up comedy and be funny? no. their nature wouldn't be able to perform like that.
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100% nature.
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this is why murderers are very fascinating.

they are 100% acting out their nature which is a killer. they have been conditioned their entire lives to do anything BUT THAT.

but their natural instinct is so strong, they would risk it all just to do a random senseless act.
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Originally Posted By GoldenBuII
Just you.

Sometimes I wonder if nature is indeed stronger than nurture.

-I was born in an extremist Christian family (extreme conservative values)

-I was indoctrinated by CCP education for the first 12 yrs of my life (extreme buck breaking education; become a beta spineless coward; instill China girl beauty standards; didn't speak a word of English until I was 12)



Then I came to Canada

- I learned how to speak English better than most Native English speakers despite not speaking a word of English in the most formative years of my life. I'm linguistically talented. This is nature.
- I saw the first big tiddy white girl. All 12 years of the most formative beauty standard brainwashing went out the window.
- I didn't go to Univ. I became an athlete behind my parents back.
- I moved out and started slaying and never stopped
- Also grew up in the most ghetto part of Toronto full of government housing and black people. That is my peoples. but I moved out of the hood and got a corporate job somehow without a uni education. i didn't become a crime statistic.


Basically my strict, harsh upbringing couldn't put a dent in my nature 1 bit.




Let's hear your story
I’d say 80/20 nurture vs nature and it’s unarguable because we can actually see the proof for ourselves.

Greek men fked men. Why? Is that in our nature or was that the nurturing of that time?

Why were Vikings so bloodthirsty? Nature or nurture of society?

Why was your grandma’s era such good girls and today sloots? Did their nature change or society’s nurturing?

23% of gen z are lgbtq. How? Did everyone evolve over a generation to be more gay or has society just nurtured *******ry more?

How are governments able to brainwash so many people? Enough to commit genocide?

This is why religion is so important. Because religion is the fundamentals of a societies moral structure. A religious society will tell stories that resonate with those beliefs, the books they write, the songs the sing, the movies they make. Then your parents, teachers, people of authority would propagate all those ideas.

Then all the while since birth, you absorb all these ideas thinking you are your own man and they are your ideas, when really, you’re just a product of your society.

A crap society will create crap people.
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Originally Posted By plsmire
This is why religion is so important. Because religion is the fundamentals of a societies moral structure.
Not religious and agree.

Humans have been around long enough to have learned tons of lessons from their failures and success. Religion is one of the best methods to communicate these lessons. Whether it's true or not doesn't matter.
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Originally Posted By GoldenBuII
this is true. charisma is entirely genetic. most asian brahs do not have it. most asian brahs also have very poor linguistic skills. that's why despite the good grades/results/effort they cannot get promoted.


I have a lot of charisma. that's why i'm like an enigma. My nature won one more again.
setting aside my deep skepticism, asian brahs have the advantage of natural stoicismaxxing, which can be a stand in for charisma in certain circumstances
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Originally Posted By Ratfish
setting aside my deep skepticism, asian brahs have the advantage of natural stoicismaxxing, which can be a stand in for charisma in certain circumstances
it's absolutely necessary for hikikomori-maxxing.
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Originally Posted By cobhc
Not religious and agree.

Humans have been around long enough to have learned tons of lessons from their failures and success. Religion is one of the best methods to communicate these lessons. Whether it's true or not doesn't matter.
is it religion or is it demographics?

I believe blacks and latinos are even more religious than whites.

the white regions in the US have the same crime rates as in europe.

Society is going to chit with the demographic shift. you can't say religion was why America used to be better without acknowledging that latinos are more religious than whites. Yet look at their countries.


that is the nature of those ethnic groups.



proving once again,


NATURE >>>>>>> NURTURE
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Originally Posted By GoldenBuII
is it religion or is it demographics?

I believe blacks and latinos are even more religious than whites.

the white regions in the US have the same crime rates as in europe.

Society is going to chit with the demographic shift. you can't say religion was why America used to be better without acknowledging that latinos are more religious than whites. Yet look at their countries.


that is the nature of those ethnic groups.



proving once again,


NATURE >>>>>>> NURTURE
Claiming to follow a religion or believe in a higher power isn't the same as living your life by it. Wearing religious symbols on a chain and selling crack/meth/opioids is a good example.
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Originally Posted By cobhc
Claiming to follow a religion or believe in a higher power isn't the same as living your life by it. Wearing religious symbols on a chain and selling crack/meth/opioids is a good example.
is that nature or nurture?


that is my point. you can preach the same scriptures to 3 different demographics of people. all 3 will behave differently. Why?
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Originally Posted By GoldenBuII
is that nature or nurture?


that is my point. you can preach the same scriptures to 3 different demographics of people. all those 3 will behave differently. Why?
Because it only applies to a small subset influenced by other variables.

Plus when you say differently, what do you mean? Two people of the same race will act differently too.
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Originally Posted By cobhc
Because it only applies to a small subset influenced by other variables.

Plus when you say differently, what do you mean? Two people of the same race will act differently too.
i mean the big picture.


you can preach the word of God to a country of latinos..... they still ran the country into the ground. Does God not take credit for that?

Oh God only takes credit when the white man behaves accordingly under his Jewdom.


The point is nature >>>>>>> nurture.



the same creed followed by different groups of people offer different big picture results due to their different nature in the big picture.


America is going to chit because latinos and blacks are taking over in demographics as white population. dwindles not a result of religion.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
Id say 30 nature - 70 nurture.
Generally speaking, I agree with this. That being said, I'd also have to say...
Originally Posted By Ratfish
charisma is almost as genetic as face aka there's no hope for u brahs on both counts srs
Originally Posted By GoldenBuII
this is true. charisma is entirely genetic. most asian brahs do not have it. most asian brahs also have very poor linguistic skills. that's why despite the good grades/results/effort they cannot get promoted.


I have a lot of charisma. that's why i'm like an enigma. My nature won one more again.
Originally Posted By GoldenBuII
This is why nature wins over nurture.


Can you teach one of those guys to do stand-up comedy and be funny? no. their nature wouldn't be able to perform like that.
Originally Posted By GoldenBuII
is it religion or is it demographics?

I believe blacks and latinos are even more religious than whites.

the white regions in the US have the same crime rates as in europe.

Society is going to chit with the demographic shift. you can't say religion was why America used to be better without acknowledging that latinos are more religious than whites. Yet look at their countries.


that is the nature of those ethnic groups.



proving once again,


NATURE >>>>>>> NURTURE
All of these trait may very well be more nature than one would think. I do agree that charisma/sense of humor is mostly nature, spirituality/religiosity is nature, linguistic skills are mostly nature, and even things like religiosity or desire for "spiritual" pursuits are also innate.
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Originally Posted By GoldenBuII
Just you.

Sometimes I wonder if nature is indeed stronger than nurture.

-I was born in an extremist Christian family (extreme conservative values)

-I was indoctrinated by CCP education for the first 12 yrs of my life (extreme buck breaking education; become a beta spineless coward; instill China girl beauty standards; didn't speak a word of English until I was 12)



Then I came to Canada

- I learned how to speak English better than most Native English speakers despite not speaking a word of English in the most formative years of my life. I'm linguistically talented. This is nature.
- I saw the first big tiddy white girl. All 12 years of the most formative beauty standard brainwashing went out the window.
- I didn't go to Univ. I became an athlete behind my parents back.
- I moved out and started slaying and never stopped
- Also grew up in the most ghetto part of Toronto full of government housing and black people. That is my peoples. but I moved out of the hood and got a corporate job somehow without a uni education. i didn't become a crime statistic.


Basically my strict, harsh upbringing couldn't put a dent in my nature 1 bit.




Let's hear your story
What makes you think that your "strict Christian upbringing" ISN'T responsible for how you turned out? Maybe your parents gave you something to react against. Maybe they knew your nature. Maybe they knew all along what you were doing behind their backs. Maybe you turned out the way they wanted and they are just pretending otherwise.

Originally Posted By GoldenBuII
this is why murderers are very fascinating.

they are 100% acting out their nature which is a killer. they have been conditioned their entire lives to do anything BUT THAT.
Are you sure you're living on Planet Earth? There are PLENTY of motivations for people to become murderers "other than just their nature".
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Originally Posted By Strawng
Generally speaking, I agree with this. That being said, I'd also have to say...








All of these trait may very well be more nature than one would think. I do agree that charisma/sense of humor is mostly nature, spirituality/religiosity is nature, linguistic skills are mostly nature, and even things like religiosity or desire for "spiritual" pursuits are also innate.
If all those traits are nature then what is nurture?

Nurture is basically knowledge.


Nature is our IQ to understand that knowledge. Nature is our own interpretation of that knowledge. Nature what we do with that knowledge. So your personality is almost entirely nature
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Originally Posted By Milo1974
What makes you think that your "strict Christian upbringing" ISN'T responsible for how you turned out? Maybe your parents gave you something to react against. Maybe they knew your nature. Maybe they knew all along what you were doing behind their backs. Maybe you turned out the way they wanted and they are just pretending otherwise.





Are you sure you're living on Planet Earth? There are PLENTY of motivations for people to become murderers "other than just their nature".
Yup I believe nurture = knowledge


How I react to that knowledge and indoctrinization is my nature.

Basically nurture vs nature comes down to knowledge vs personality. However knowledge cannot be your personality. Your IQ and how you process that knowledge to live is almost entirely nature.



What is the motivation to commit murder vs against murder?


Pros:

1. Moment of debaunchery
2. Infamy




Cons:

1. get caught
2. Lose rest of your life
3. never have pussy again
4. never have freedom again
5. never touch family again
6. never travel again
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