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02-13-2023, 08:17 AM
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Is blue pill cope worse and more false than red pill echo chamber?
Regarding male looks and females.
We all know roughly there are 3 views:
a) all about the confidence and how you act
b) looks matter, looksmax as much as you can but don't be bitter about the hand you have been dealt with and go live and talk to girls
c) it is over if you are not chad
in my personal experience, I have found full-fledged belief in a) to be a lot more harmful as advice than c) but b) is probably the most proven
We all know roughly there are 3 views:
a) all about the confidence and how you act
b) looks matter, looksmax as much as you can but don't be bitter about the hand you have been dealt with and go live and talk to girls
c) it is over if you are not chad
in my personal experience, I have found full-fledged belief in a) to be a lot more harmful as advice than c) but b) is probably the most proven
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02-13-2023, 08:36 AM
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When you say harmful you mean in terms of correctness or how it affects you mentally 🤔 because if the latter then I'd argue c) is the worst 😄 people that adopt this sentiment will spend all their energies hating on "foids" 😂👍
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02-13-2023, 08:44 AM
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whichever view is most uncomfortable and actually forces ppl to change themselves is usually the right one. so yeah that would be option B.
option C is pure ldar cope
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02-13-2023, 08:52 AM
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I actually think being obsessed with looks is the most destructive and detrimental attitude I most commonly see in men.
Looks matter, to a point...
If you are fat, have the worst haircut known to man, and a chite wardrobe, then improving your looks matters as lot.
But if you have taken care of the basics and are at least average looking, then your time would be better spent becoming a more confident, funny and social guy.
Looks matter, to a point...
If you are fat, have the worst haircut known to man, and a chite wardrobe, then improving your looks matters as lot.
But if you have taken care of the basics and are at least average looking, then your time would be better spent becoming a more confident, funny and social guy.
02-13-2023, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
This has been an active observation forever.Regarding male looks and females.
We all know roughly there are 3 views:
a) all about the confidence and how you act
b) looks matter, looksmax as much as you can but don't be bitter about the hand you have been dealt with and go live and talk to girls
c) it is over if you are not chad
in my personal experience, I have found full-fledged belief in a) to be a lot more harmful as advice than c) but b) is probably the most proven
We all know roughly there are 3 views:
a) all about the confidence and how you act
b) looks matter, looksmax as much as you can but don't be bitter about the hand you have been dealt with and go live and talk to girls
c) it is over if you are not chad
in my personal experience, I have found full-fledged belief in a) to be a lot more harmful as advice than c) but b) is probably the most proven
There's an old saying "She's out of your league" which means she's obviously too good looking for you.
They have been saying that one since the 1940s.
If you are not good looking in a classic sense, you are not getting girls who are better looking than you.
Orthopedic shoes might be great for your feet, but women are not going to buy those, they will buy "pretty" shoes. Girls will choose "pretty guys" even if they don't feel good, just like women wear shoes.
This has never been a mystery and there's no need to take a red or blue pill because this is how women act and what you must deal with.
Women are little kids in adult bodies. They want money and they want cute appealing products like on TV.
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02-13-2023, 09:57 AM
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I have personally seen A). and its opposite so many times it's not even funny.
There was a 5'5", receding curly hair guy in college that was always fuking all these girls. He wasn't rich, hung, famous. Just a super outgoing *******.
I've seen so many lovers on paper that are 5/10 that just pull ciz they give no chits.
There was a guy I used to work with, was 6'5" and pretty good looking no homo. But he had the confidence of a sock and could get dates all he wanted, but they would lose interest as soon as he started talking.
There was a 5'5", receding curly hair guy in college that was always fuking all these girls. He wasn't rich, hung, famous. Just a super outgoing *******.
I've seen so many lovers on paper that are 5/10 that just pull ciz they give no chits.
There was a guy I used to work with, was 6'5" and pretty good looking no homo. But he had the confidence of a sock and could get dates all he wanted, but they would lose interest as soon as he started talking.
02-13-2023, 09:59 AM
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Clothes, Hair, Looks:
People in their 20s: they dress up, they get fit, they have trendy hairdos.
These are usually lies.
People in their 30s and 40s: They do not dress up, they are fat, they have functional or no hairdo.
This is how they really are.
Couples in their 20s are predators and set a trap for each other.
Couples in their 30s and 40s are now stuck with each other and think the other person is gross because they "let themselves go". That is a story that has been going on forever.
Couples in their 30s and 40s who were not liars and either met as slobs or are genuinely fit attractive people are not going to have the issue of being disappointed for the rest of their lives, cheating, divorce, etc.
If your relationship is based on lies, then you are headed for divorce. So, getting your eyebrows "shaped" and having a "six pack" under your designer shirt is like giving yourself cancer if that's not how you really plan on living until death.
Instead, you should just be yourself and see who is attracted to that.
If no one is attracted to you, you are better off single.
If you don't stay single, you may marry someone you lied to, have kids, the woman will hate you, you will hate her, and you will be stuck with a divorce, escorts, a dysfunctional family, etc.
People in their 20s: they dress up, they get fit, they have trendy hairdos.
These are usually lies.
People in their 30s and 40s: They do not dress up, they are fat, they have functional or no hairdo.
This is how they really are.
Couples in their 20s are predators and set a trap for each other.
Couples in their 30s and 40s are now stuck with each other and think the other person is gross because they "let themselves go". That is a story that has been going on forever.
Couples in their 30s and 40s who were not liars and either met as slobs or are genuinely fit attractive people are not going to have the issue of being disappointed for the rest of their lives, cheating, divorce, etc.
If your relationship is based on lies, then you are headed for divorce. So, getting your eyebrows "shaped" and having a "six pack" under your designer shirt is like giving yourself cancer if that's not how you really plan on living until death.
Instead, you should just be yourself and see who is attracted to that.
If no one is attracted to you, you are better off single.
If you don't stay single, you may marry someone you lied to, have kids, the woman will hate you, you will hate her, and you will be stuck with a divorce, escorts, a dysfunctional family, etc.
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02-13-2023, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted By orangetide⏩
The 5'5" guy has coke and weed for the girls.I have personally seen A). and its opposite so many times it's not even funny.
There was a 5'5", receding curly hair guy in college that was always fuking all these girls. He wasn't rich, hung, famous. Just a super outgoing *******.
I've seen so many lovers on paper that are 5/10 that just pull ciz they give no chits.
There was a guy I used to work with, was 6'5" and pretty good looking no homo. But he had the confidence of a sock and could get dates all he wanted, but they would lose interest as soon as he started talking.
There was a 5'5", receding curly hair guy in college that was always fuking all these girls. He wasn't rich, hung, famous. Just a super outgoing *******.
I've seen so many lovers on paper that are 5/10 that just pull ciz they give no chits.
There was a guy I used to work with, was 6'5" and pretty good looking no homo. But he had the confidence of a sock and could get dates all he wanted, but they would lose interest as soon as he started talking.
That's how that is done.
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02-13-2023, 11:32 AM
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It seems to me that the correct answer is a blend of (a) and (b). Looksmaxxing and getting out there to talk to girls live is great, but it will not ultimately be effective if you are lacking in charisma/confidence, aren't somewhat funny, etc. Option (c) is 100% cope for losers.
02-13-2023, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
There is some underlying truth here, but there is a huge difference between aging normally (i.e., not having a six-pack until you die of old age) and totally letting yourself go once you lock in a partner. Most normal girls are not going to expect their 50-year-old husband to have the same physique he did when they were 25 and met each other. It's another story if you have a six-pack during the early years of the relationship but then give up on maintaining any reasonable level of fitness once you're married. Like you said, the key is to find someone who likes you for you (comprehensively) and isn't just into you for looking a certain way that will more or less inevitably change over time.Clothes, Hair, Looks:
People in their 20s: they dress up, they get fit, they have trendy hairdos.
These are usually lies.
People in their 30s and 40s: They do not dress up, they are fat, they have functional or no hairdo.
This is how they really are.
Couples in their 20s are predators and set a trap for each other.
Couples in their 30s and 40s are now stuck with each other and think the other person is gross because they "let themselves go". That is a story that has been going on forever.
Couples in their 30s and 40s who were not liars and either met as slobs or are genuinely fit attractive people are not going to have the issue of being disappointed for the rest of their lives, cheating, divorce, etc.
If your relationship is based on lies, then you are headed for divorce. So, getting your eyebrows "shaped" and having a "six pack" under your designer shirt is like giving yourself cancer if that's not how you really plan on living until death.
Instead, you should just be yourself and see who is attracted to that.
If no one is attracted to you, you are better off single.
If you don't stay single, you may marry someone you lied to, have kids, the woman will hate you, you will hate her, and you will be stuck with a divorce, escorts, a dysfunctional family, etc.
People in their 20s: they dress up, they get fit, they have trendy hairdos.
These are usually lies.
People in their 30s and 40s: They do not dress up, they are fat, they have functional or no hairdo.
This is how they really are.
Couples in their 20s are predators and set a trap for each other.
Couples in their 30s and 40s are now stuck with each other and think the other person is gross because they "let themselves go". That is a story that has been going on forever.
Couples in their 30s and 40s who were not liars and either met as slobs or are genuinely fit attractive people are not going to have the issue of being disappointed for the rest of their lives, cheating, divorce, etc.
If your relationship is based on lies, then you are headed for divorce. So, getting your eyebrows "shaped" and having a "six pack" under your designer shirt is like giving yourself cancer if that's not how you really plan on living until death.
Instead, you should just be yourself and see who is attracted to that.
If no one is attracted to you, you are better off single.
If you don't stay single, you may marry someone you lied to, have kids, the woman will hate you, you will hate her, and you will be stuck with a divorce, escorts, a dysfunctional family, etc.
On a related note, because you mentioned the designer shirt idea, a guy is setting himself up for a bad time over the long term if he projects a false image of financial success and lures in someone who values him for that. Unless you're only looking for ONS situations, going out frauding in Gucci chit as the average-income wagecel is counterproductive.
02-13-2023, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted By bradlehman⏩
At my gym, there's PLENTY of older guys who are regulars.There is some underlying truth here, but there is a huge difference between aging normally (i.e., not having a six-pack until you die of old age) and totally letting yourself go once you lock in a partner. Most normal girls are not going to expect their 50-year-old husband to have the same physique he did when they were 25 and met each other. It's another story if you have a six-pack during the early years of the relationship but then give up on maintaining any reasonable level of fitness once you're married. Like you said, the key is to find someone who likes you for you (comprehensively) and isn't just into you for looking a certain way that will more or less inevitably change over time.
On a related note, because you mentioned the designer shirt idea, a guy is setting himself up for a bad time over the long term if he projects a false image of financial success and lures in someone who values him for that. Unless you're only looking for ONS situations, going out frauding in Gucci chit as the average-income wagecel is counterproductive.
On a related note, because you mentioned the designer shirt idea, a guy is setting himself up for a bad time over the long term if he projects a false image of financial success and lures in someone who values him for that. Unless you're only looking for ONS situations, going out frauding in Gucci chit as the average-income wagecel is counterproductive.
As people age, 99% become slobs and totally give up on fitness. I guarantee you that no man likes seeing a fat gross woman and no woman likes seeing a fat gross man, when neither of them liked fat gross people to begin with.
If you are very fit in your youth and that's part of your lifestyle women will admire you----you will be AMAZING----if you're very fit as an older man. It's simplistic to conclude that you have to be identical to your youth. However, if you have muscle definition and a "flat stomach" you will be sexier and more admirable than literally billions of 50 year olds.
Money:
Look at Donald Trump.
He has access to the best stuff but the real him loves McDonald's and he put on a lot of weight over the years. Probably, not a lot of women would genuinely want to have sex with him or be around him daily.
If you take that and apply it to an average person, it's much worse.
I can think of a lot of fat jews I've known with a toupee, a designer shirt, a gold chain, and a pinky ring. There are lots of Italians like that too.
They are a parody of a handsome guy.
It's a great way to end up with a fake life.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
Agreed. Probably talking past each other. Perhaps read this more literally than you intended: "...having a 'six pack' under your designer shirt is like giving yourself cancer if that's not how you really plan on living until death."At my gym, there's PLENTY of older guys who are regulars.
As people age, 99% become slobs and totally give up on fitness. I guarantee you that no man likes seeing a fat gross woman and no woman likes seeing a fat gross man, when neither of them liked fat gross people to begin with.
If you are very fit in your youth and that's part of your lifestyle women will admire you----you will be AMAZING----if you're very fit as an older man. It's simplistic to conclude that you have to be identical to your youth. However, if you have muscle definition and a "flat stomach" you will be sexier and more admirable than literally billions of 50 year olds.
Money:
Look at Donald Trump.
He has access to the best stuff but the real him loves McDonald's and he put on a lot of weight over the years. Probably, not a lot of women would genuinely want to have sex with him or be around him daily.
If you take that and apply it to an average person, it's much worse.
I can think of a lot of fat jews I've known with a toupee, a designer shirt, a gold chain, and a pinky ring. There are lots of Italians like that too.
They are a parody of a handsome guy.
It's a great way to end up with a fake life.
As people age, 99% become slobs and totally give up on fitness. I guarantee you that no man likes seeing a fat gross woman and no woman likes seeing a fat gross man, when neither of them liked fat gross people to begin with.
If you are very fit in your youth and that's part of your lifestyle women will admire you----you will be AMAZING----if you're very fit as an older man. It's simplistic to conclude that you have to be identical to your youth. However, if you have muscle definition and a "flat stomach" you will be sexier and more admirable than literally billions of 50 year olds.
Money:
Look at Donald Trump.
He has access to the best stuff but the real him loves McDonald's and he put on a lot of weight over the years. Probably, not a lot of women would genuinely want to have sex with him or be around him daily.
If you take that and apply it to an average person, it's much worse.
I can think of a lot of fat jews I've known with a toupee, a designer shirt, a gold chain, and a pinky ring. There are lots of Italians like that too.
They are a parody of a handsome guy.
It's a great way to end up with a fake life.
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Originally Posted By bradlehman⏩
Yes.Agreed. Probably talking past each other. Perhaps read this more literally than you intended: "...having a 'six pack' under your designer shirt is like giving yourself cancer if that's not how you really plan on living until death."
That means that you will not maintain either status symbol.
However, a person can maintain both of those things if they are motivated to. If they don't or mess up the combination, they are breaking the contract of who they presented themselves to be.
It's the ruin of MANY marriages.
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