related, the UK is training Ukrainian fighter pilots on NATO fighter jets already

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/p...ssian-invasion

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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sen-...ry?id=97311080

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., on Sunday pushed the Biden administration to provide more aid to Ukraine after Vice President Kamala Harris said Russia was committing "crimes against humanity" in its invasion.

"I believe a decision will be imminent here when we get back to Washington that the administration will start training Ukrainian pilots on the F-16" fighter jet, Graham, a prominent defense hawk, told ABC "This Week" co-anchor Martha Raddatz in an exclusive interview from the Munich Security Conference.

That would represent a major escalation of U.S. support and one which President Joe Biden has signaled reluctance to commit to. Secretary of State Antony Blinken, appearing separately on "This Week," didn't say whether F-16s had been approved but noted that proper training for the Ukrainians was also important.

"Let me just stress this: How can you call this war by Russia a crime against humanity … and not give the victim of their crime against humanity the defensive weapons they need to stop the crime? So, we need to do two things quickly: make Russia a state sponsor of terrorism under U.S. law, which would make it harder for China to give weapons to Russia, and we need to start training Ukrainian pilots on the F-16 now," Graham said.

World leaders have been meeting in Munich for an annual gathering to discuss global security on the eve of the one-year anniversary of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, with Harris underscoring the need to stand up to authoritarian nations using "brute force."

"In the case of Russia's actions in Ukraine, we have examined the evidence, we know the legal standards, and there is no doubt: These are crimes against humanity," she said in remarks to the security conference on Saturday, rebuking Russia's repeated denials that it targets civilians and commits other atrocities.

When pressed by Raddatz on "This Week" over whether providing F-16 jets and long-range missiles to Ukraine would provoke Russian President Vladimir Putin, Graham said he was more concerned with removing Russia from Ukraine all together.

"I'm not worried about provoking Putin. I want to beat him. And how do you beat him? You beat him by giving the Ukrainians the military capability to drive the Russians out of Ukraine," he said, adding, "I see solidarity across the aisle in America and across the seas."

"Let's make sure we beat Putin in Ukraine, because he will not stop if we do not," Graham said.

He said that a defeat for Russia included them returning the Crimean Peninsula they illegally annexed in 2014. Graham pointed to a post-Soviet Union agreement in the '90s with Ukraine and other countries in which Ukraine agreed to hand over its nuclear weapons in exchange for a guaranteed set of borders.

"To not honor that commitment would be tricking the Ukraine, would be rewarding Putin for rewriting agreements involving nuclear weapons," he said.


He also doubled down on his hawkish views by calling for international tribunals to be established to try Putin himself, as well as other Russian officials.

"You label Putin's Russia as a state sponsor of terrorism [and] you create international tribunals so we actually can try Putin and his cronies in the international court like we did after World War II," he said.

He said boosting aid to Ukraine would send a warning over any ambitions Beijing may have to invade Taiwan and that the international community should be prepared to punish China for sending lethal aid to Moscow, as Blinken said on "This Week" they are considering.

"Now if that happens, the world needs to come down hard on China. ... Any country that comes to their aid should pay a heavy price," Graham said.

"That's why we should designate Russia state sponsored terrorism, because if you do that under U.S. law and China provides lethal weapons, they will get sanctioned," he said.

Or maybe we should just let Europe handle this. We have enough problems of our own.

These mother fukers are willing to start WW3 to line their pockets until they rip open.

Insanity.

its time for us as citizens to FORCE these politicians entire bloodline to go over to ukraine on the frontlines.


sons, daughters, grandchildren, everyone.


(not srs)

Just read all the comments in agreement from the libs...

Where do you start?...

im so sick of being a conservative in america where our only choice is these blackmailed *******s in the GOP.

i cant even think of 1 politician who represents conservatives

This is the idiot who kept talking about how we should assassinate Putin.
Not pro Russia, but what have they done that is considered a crime against humanity that we haven't done?

Media keeps pushing Putin evil narrative, but atleast he is very rational. There are others high in Russian government that would be much worse.

This is just getting comical....comically sad at this point.

Ukraine has no shot to defeat Russia. Negotiate a peace treaty....which Russia has wanted all along....and save so many from untold suffering.

This is just terrible.

Great idea... Push russia more, they feed weapons to N.Korea and they launch a nuke at us.

Thats funny because I call for Lindsey Graham to go fuk himself

Keep voting recucklican though I'm sure one of these days they will actually represent you LOL.

Didn't Putin imply providing Ukraine with tanks and jets was escalation that may result in a nuclear response. At some point you start to blur the line between who is the instigator and aggressor.

Also how hard is it to train pilots for an F-16, can a Ukrainian pilot familiar with a MIG-29 just hop into an F-16?

He does the war monger thing to hide the fact he's deeply closeted.

Agreed. Seems like one of those instances where “the devil you know is better than the devil you don’t know.”

Putin is aggressive but still very calculated. I’m not sure if Russia has anyone else to replace Putin that’s equally as feared and respected as him.

This is the guy who was running against Graham in the last election. Needless to say, I voted for Graham.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaime_Harrison


Harrison went on to serve as executive director of the House Democratic Caucus and the vice chair of the South Carolina Democratic Party.[9] He later served as a lobbyist for the Podesta Group.[4][11] His clients at the Podesta Group included banks, such as Bank of America and Wells Fargo, Berkshire Hathaway,[12] pharmaceutical companies,[13] casinos, the American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity, and Walmart,[14] among others.


Harrison declared his candidacy for chairperson of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) in the February 2017 election.[17][18] He defended his eight-year record at the Podesta Group, saying, "It's how I pay back the $160,000 of student loan debt."[19] Harrison ended his bid for DNC chair on February 23, 2017, and endorsed Tom Perez.[20]

Following President Joe Biden's victory in the 2020 presidential election, Harrison was nominated by Biden to be the chair of the DNC, succeeding Tom Perez.[22] DNC members elected him on January 21, 2021.[23]

In the third quarter of 2020, Harrison raised $57 million, the largest quarterly total by a U.S. Senate candidate ever, breaking Beto O'Rourke's record in the 2018 Texas Senate election.[29] He also raised the most ever by a U.S. Senate candidate, beating another record set by O'Rourke.[30]

Harrison called for expansion of Medicaid[3] and expanded coronavirus relief.[3] During the 2020 Senate election, Harrison criticized his opponent Lindsey Graham for attempting to repeal the Affordable Care Act.



He obviously would’ve supported all of the wars and finding that Graham does, but would also push a lot of other terrible things that Graham opposes. I definitely agree about Lindsay having issues though.

Bruh, hes against abortion.....that alone is good enough for South Carolina GOP primary voters. Nothing else matters after that, it's why the SC ruling is a reawakening for the globalist Neo-Con GOP. Scumbag has a decades long record of telling his evangelical voters to their faces he wants to replace them and their children....and still. (could literally post 50 more anti-American bills he voted for/co signed.

2006: Voted against an amendment to cap employment-based visas.

2006: Voted in favor of a bill that rewarded illegal aliens with amnesty.

2006: Voted for increasing foreign worker visas.

2006: Voted to kill amendment that would cap guestworker visas.

2007-2008: Voted against an amendment to protect American workers.

2015: Voted in favor of H.R. 2146 to grant President authority to expand immigration levels without Congress consent

2020: Voted in favor of H.R 133, the Consolidated Appropriations Act on Senate floor Sen. Graham voted in favor of H.R. 133, the Consolidated Appropriations Act, that would weaken interior enforcement and increase foreign worker visas. The bill reduced funding for Immigration and Customs Enforcement by $431 million. Further, the bill authorized the Departments of Homeland Security and Labor to increase the number of H-2B visas issued during the 2021 fiscal year.

Just asking for weapons to defend themselves guys they would never lie

Here's a crazy thought... Why doesn't Ukraine take a little of that$200 billionand BUY F-16's.

See post number 17 and tell me if you would vote for Graham or Harrison knowing that one of those two people will represent you in congress.

Neither is representing you in congress...at least in the next election getting rid of newly elected (D) in a red stronghold is 100X easier than Graham ever getting primaried.

You do know Trump just did a rally with him like a month ago right?

Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.

Seek help.

Dabb asked a question, I answered. He asked "Are people really this stupid to keep listening to him?" and I answered "Yes, Trump is very stupid and he listens to Graham."

What's the problem here?

**** Graham, that Warhawk POS.

I'm sorry but thats not possible, I was told last year that it was Russia that was running out of ammo... unless... does the media...dare I say it... lie?

You gonna answer Polaris or just talk chit to me and leave?

I would prefer to hold off on F16s and instead send Lindsay Graham to Eastern Ukraine permanently to act as our ongoing war ambassador. Surely he would jump at the opportunity.

Time for the Linz to just retire to a gay bathhouse and go away.