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post 1678461933 03-06-2023, 04:21 PM
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How stupid was Ukraine really? They had two options:

Option one:

-Agree that you won't join NATO
-Keep things business as usual

Option two:

-Hundreds of thousands of casualties
-Trauma for every single family that will echo for two to three generations
-A bill for multiple TRILLIONS in infrastructure repair
-Destruction of historical builds
-The assurance that you won't have to go through the above a SECOND time in the future, but the assurance you WILL go through it once

When it's all said and done, and when they finally do join NATO... What will be left for them to protect? Orphans? Alcoholics mourning their kids? A pile of rubble? Trillions in debt? I just keep thinking to myself how phucking stupid this is. Literally like a 10 year old taking a fight with prime Mike Tyson. So what if someone's cheering you on, you're about to take irreversible brain damage for nothing and will never be the same.
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Ukraine had no choice, the nwo told them to do this and they obliged, Ukraine is more scared of the nwo than Russia.
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Ukraine is just an extension of the US with a hired actor "in charge". This war will drag on for YEARS. (Ded fkn Srs)
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It was like join club and get smashed into nothing

Or just exist per usual.

I'll take the smashed into nothing please!
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Originally Posted By ToxMasculinity
Ukraine is just an extension of the US with a hired actor "in charge". This war will drag on for YEARS. (Ded fkn Srs)
The invasion of Ukraine was an escalation in the war that had already been going on since 2014 with the invasion of Crimea, long before Zelenskyy was elected
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option 3:
-destroy all evidence of covid labs funded by xiden
-launder billions of dollars of US taxpayer money for xiden and regime
-ww3 to complete cover up
-media cronies write history so they are now on the good side
-WEF plan in effect for reduced world population now owning nothing and eating bugs.
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Originally Posted By BigDaddyBiceps
Option one:

-Agree that you won't join NATO
-Keep things business as usual

Option two:

-Hundreds of thousands of casualties
-Trauma for every single family that will echo for two to three generations
-A bill for multiple TRILLIONS in infrastructure repair
-Destruction of historical builds
-The assurance that you won't have to go through the above a SECOND time in the future, but the assurance you WILL go through it once

When it's all said and done, and when they finally do join NATO... What will be left for them to protect? Orphans? Alcoholics mourning their kids? A pile of rubble? Trillions in debt? I just keep thinking to myself how phucking stupid this is. Literally like a 10 year old taking a fight with prime Mike Tyson. So what if someone's cheering you on, you're about to take irreversible brain damage for nothing and will never be the same.
In truth, Ukraine couldn't implement Minsk 2 because their far right would not allow it.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
In truth, Ukraine couldn't implement Minsk 2 because their far right would not allow it.
Zelensky should be hanged for his failure (likely not a "failure" though) to do so.
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"Volodymyr Oleksandrovych Zelenskyywas born toJewish parentson 25 January 1978 in Kryvyi Rih, then in the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic."
wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Zelenskyy

"This sacrifice ofUkrainian Jewrywould include Ukraine’s PresidentVolodymyr Zelensky, Prime MinisterDenys Shmyhaland Defense MinisterOleksii Reznikov, all of whom are Jewish."
jpost.com/international/article-703061
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Originally Posted By Getter_done
Ukraine had no choice, the nwo told them to do this and they obliged, Ukraine is more scared of the nwo than Russia.
They already coup'ed the government in 2014 after the election. The US "stole" Ukraine from Russia at that point, and all Putin did was secure Crimea. If the people in charge of the Ukrainian military at the time know what they knew now they might have cooperated with Russia and stopped the coup, but those people were long gone by the time of the Special Military Operation. Only ****hots are left by this point.
post 1678466143 03-06-2023, 05:43 PM
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Putin believes that Ukraine should not exist. It should be part of Russia no matter how many people he has to slaughter to make that happen. It's actually the OPPOSITE of what OP says. Ukraine not being in NATO was the problem. If they had been in, Putin would not have invaded.
post 1678466423 03-06-2023, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted By ToxMasculinity
Ukraine is just an extension of the US with a hired actor "in charge". This war will drag on for YEARS. (Ded fkn Srs)
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Why does this even matter?



They're willing to die and fight for us, we should be happy and send them anything and everything they want.



As I said in a previous thread:
-We don't have to risk our lives
-Ukies are perfectly fine dying for this fight
-Our military companies get to test things out in a real experiment
-The money the military companies get will come back to us via trickle down economics
-Everyone benefits from more work, and more money
-Libtards are supporting it so this is universally desired by both sides




A win across the board
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post 1678468313 03-06-2023, 06:20 PM
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Its just big Russia attacking a smaller Russia as far as I can tell.

I dont really care other than its costing us a lot of money.
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To be fair, how would you feel if your neighbor came into your house tomorrow and said he was gonna need to see your wife naked, would you just submit? The Ukraine thing is the same exact thing. Think about if China suddenly started making rules that we needed to follow in the US.
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post 1678468663 03-06-2023, 06:27 PM
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They aren't stupid. Everything is going precisely as intended lol
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The US put Zelensky in charge years prior.

This would have happened years sooner if Hilary were elected. Trump just got in the way.
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Originally Posted By leafs43
The US put Zelensky in charge years prior.

This would have happened years sooner if Hilary were elected. Trump just got in the way.
Nah stop thinking this is a libtard vs right thing


Everyone wants this. Everyone wins
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Originally Posted By whitepaper
Nah stop thinking this is a libtard vs right thing


Everyone wants this. Everyone wins
only the left wants this, and it will end very badly.
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Originally Posted By whitepaper
Why does this even matter?



They're willing to die and fight for us, we should be happy and send them anything and everything they want.



As I said in a previous thread:
-We don't have to risk our lives
-Ukies are perfectly fine dying for this fight
-Our military companies get to test things out in a real experiment
-The money the military companies get will come back to us via trickle down economics
-Everyone benefits from more work, and more money
-Libtards are supporting it so this is universally desired by both sides




A win across the board
you think its fine because your a jew

jews were boarded up into planes and buses and escaped Ukraine within 24 hours of the invasion

It makes 0 difference to the life of the average Ukrainian peasant (the poorest country in Europe) if they Join NATO or if Putin re-absorbs the east. Of course the average Ukrainian does not understand this, especially since jew zelensky nationalized all media and banned any dissent.

I guess the only difference is if they do join NATO, the jew mafia will institute the classic "our western democratic values" onto their surviving children. AKA they will get drag queen story hour and daily lessons on the holocaust and anal sex.
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Originally Posted By whitepaper
Nah stop thinking this is a libtard vs right thing


Everyone wants this. Everyone wins
Yea maybe on a congress/senate level. Jfl @ the fact US politicians can trade stocks lmao
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Originally Posted By whitepaper
Nah stop thinking this is a libtard vs right thing


Everyone wants this. Everyone wins
The establishment wanted this.

If Jeb! got elected this would have happened.


Its a proxy war with Russia over resources. While Washington DC pushes everyone to be green, they wage war knowing full well that oil and gas is the only thing worth a damn.
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confusing

certain ideologies like those in MENA lead to literally perpetual wars

what a surprise someone like this destroys all his 'inferiors' for his supremacist philosophy instead of actually trying to succeed
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Originally Posted By ToxMasculinity
Ukraine is just an extension of the US with a hired actor "in charge". This war will drag on for YEARS. (Ded fkn Srs)
But we were told it wasn't a war. A special operation, I heard it called.
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The misc never ceases to amaze me. After successfully becoming god tier virologists, they’re all top tier geopolitical masterminds. As soon as the next thing hits, everyone will be a mater of that, and so on.
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Originally Posted By whitepaper
Why does this even matter?



They're willing to die and fight for us, we should be happy and send them anything and everything they want.



As I said in a previous thread:
-We don't have to risk our lives
-Ukies are perfectly fine dying for this fight
-Our military companies get to test things out in a real experiment
-The money the military companies get will come back to us via trickle down economics
-Everyone benefits from more work, and more money
-Libtards are supporting it so this is universally desired by both sides




A win across the board
Correct. The Russian humiliation is such a big plus too. Reagan would be soo proud!
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Originally Posted By Paul
only the left wants this, and it will end very badly.
Nah both sides want this. The general public lefts are just more up front about it. Crazy how easily things change

A few years ago, the left was largely isolationist when we were fuking shiit up in the Middle East, and now they are all for it.
Originally Posted By Leonydus
you think its fine because your a jew

jews were boarded up into planes and buses and escaped Ukraine within 24 hours of the invasion

It makes 0 difference to the life of the average Ukrainian peasant (the poorest country in Europe) if they Join NATO or if Putin re-absorbs the east. Of course the average Ukrainian does not understand this, especially since jew zelensky nationalized all media and banned any dissent.

I guess the only difference is if they do join NATO, the jew mafia will institute the classic "our western democratic values" onto their surviving children. AKA they will get drag queen story hour and daily lessons on the holocaust and anal sex.
Lol I'm not a Jew. Just because I support them doesn't mean I'm Jewish.

And? What's wrong with that? Would you want your family to be trapped and killed if you could help it? Some people get special treatment, and as they should. Stop bitching and complaining

You're dumb. Jews wouldn't allow that drag queen garbage in their communities, so why would they want that in their country or where they are a majority/hold power.
Originally Posted By steeler505
Yea maybe on a congress/senate level. Jfl @ the fact US politicians can trade stocks lmao
Well they are the elected officials put there by the people, so the people ultimately want this too even if they don't know it.

Like I said, everyone wins and the states where the military companies are make good money from this
Originally Posted By leafs43
The establishment wanted this.

If Jeb! got elected this would have happened.


Its a proxy war with Russia over resources. While Washington DC pushes everyone to be green, they wage war knowing full well that oil and gas is the only thing worth a damn.
And? We're fighting it without losing a single person so far, so imagine when we do go all in and send troops? The losses will be minimal since the Ukies are in the front lines and taking the losses for us
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Correct. The Russian humiliation is such a big plus too. Reagan would be soo proud!
Exactly
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Never underestimate the damage the left is willing to do in the name of their ideals and new world order plans.
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Originally Posted By Kawhilights
The misc never ceases to amaze me. After successfully becoming god tier virologists, they’re all top tier geopolitical masterminds. As soon as the next thing hits, everyone will be a mater of that, and so on.
This is what it looks like when lefties get frustrated at people becoming aware of reality.
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Originally Posted By BigDaddyBiceps
Option one:

-Agree that you won't join NATO
-Keep things business as usual

Option two:

-Hundreds of thousands of casualties
-Trauma for every single family that will echo for two to three generations
-A bill for multiple TRILLIONS in infrastructure repair
-Destruction of historical builds
-The assurance that you won't have to go through the above a SECOND time in the future, but the assurance you WILL go through it once

When it's all said and done, and when they finally do join NATO... What will be left for them to protect? Orphans? Alcoholics mourning their kids? A pile of rubble? Trillions in debt? I just keep thinking to myself how phucking stupid this is. Literally like a 10 year old taking a fight with prime Mike Tyson. So what if someone's cheering you on, you're about to take irreversible brain damage for nothing and will never be the same.
If jews and outsiders are running the war, do you think they care about option two?

They aren't living in the country and never will.

It's like playing a video game only with humans.

If EVERYONE in the country died would they care?

Would you or I care?

No. Maybe for a week, we would care.
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