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post 1678462683 03-06-2023, 04:39 PM
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Are shoes a scam? Barefoot shoes

Been doing some research on shoes since someone I knew started having foot issues. Anyone here mess with barefoot/minimalist shoes with a wide toe box? Seems unnatural that our foot shape would be so cramped like they are in normal footwear.
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My feet are wide and i wear wide shoes usually.
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Once you go to a wide minimalist shoe, and get used to it (doesn't take long) you will never go back. If you ever do try to go back to some silly clown shoe, you will almost immediately develope knee/foot/leg pain.

I use XERO shoes.
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I walk around barefoot all day. Feels good.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Once you go to a wide minimalist shoe, and get used to it (doesn't take long) you will never go back. If you ever do try to go back to some silly clown shoe, you will almost immediately develope knee/foot/leg pain.

I use XERO shoes.
yeah the mechanics make a lot of sense. our toes shouldn't be all cramped like that, and we are meant to hit the ground with the front of our feet first. How long did it take for you to get used to it? I heard it helps for balance with lunges and stuff too.
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Maybe not for everyone but I love them and, no more knee pains since I started to wear them.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Once you go to a wide minimalist shoe, and get used to it (doesn't take long) you will never go back. If you ever do try to go back to some silly clown shoe, you will almost immediately develope knee/foot/leg pain.

I use XERO shoes.
I wear Xero shoes too. I will never wear normal shoes again. I'm completely convinced. It all makes sense. Your shoes should be shaped like your foot. Humans were designed to run barefoot; putting a huge block of padding under your heel is absurd.
post 1678467433 03-06-2023, 06:05 PM
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When I sold mattresses, I told people that buying a new one would solve all of their problems.

When I sold cars I told people that buying a new one would solve all of their problems.

The people selling these shoes are now telling you that buying them will solve all of your problems.

Remember when those stupid looking toe shoes were al the rage? How about the shoes with a giant spring for a heel? If you had bought those, they would have solved all of your problems.
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Originally Posted By crupiea⏩
When I sold mattresses, I told people that buying a new one would solve all of their problems.

When I sold cars I told people that buying a new one would solve all of their problems.

The people selling these shoes are now telling you that buying them will solve all of your problems.

Remember when those stupid looking toe shoes were al the rage? How about the shoes with a giant spring for a heel? If you had bought those, they would have solved all of your problems.
Lol. I make no money off telling people that these shoes are the GOAT .... Yet here I am telling you so.
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I walk barefoot often. I have wide feet and wearing shoes doesn't feel all that comfortable to me. Something I rarely mention anymore is that I have found earthing to be beneficial. Earthing or grounding is walking barefoot in wet grass or along a beach. The earth has a reported slight negative electrical change and when walking barefoot the charge can give health benefits, one being thinner blood. I'm chuckling a bit mentioning this as in the past most would think I had lost my mind. Maybe so but earthing does make me feel better.
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been wearing barefoot shoes for years but am wondering what are the best ones
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I remember reading about one of those tribes in the Amazon. They walk around all day barefoot and their feet are strong as chit. They climb trees, hike through jungle with dangerous insects and rugged terrain. They never get sore.
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Nah I love shoes. My go to brand is Colehaan sales section.
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Yes most of the time. Feels so much better but even after years of wearing them while walking I can't run in barefoot shoes my feet are just too damaged and probably misshapen due to wearing regular shoes and boots until I was about 28. I'm very selective about what shoes my kids will wear to avoid them having the same foot fate.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Once you go to a wide minimalist shoe, and get used to it (doesn't take long) you will never go back. If you ever do try to go back to some silly clown shoe, you will almost immediately develope knee/foot/leg pain.

I use XERO shoes.
Xero's are the GOAT, only problem is they're kinda of expensive and fall apart very easy. I can go through a pair in a little under 6 months before the sole starts peeling or the fabric starts sheering, and thats when I only use them as a dedicated jogging shoe that I use on asphalt/sand/grass. The flimsy design is the double edge sword of a "minimalist shoe" On one hand its a very flexible shoe and allows for the muscles in the feet (and the calves) to work without all that additional support. On the other hand the simple and thin material makes them fall apart.
Originally Posted By crupiea⏩
When I sold mattresses, I told people that buying a new one would solve all of their problems.

When I sold cars I told people that buying a new one would solve all of their problems.

The people selling these shoes are now telling you that buying them will solve all of your problems.

Remember when those stupid looking toe shoes were al the rage? How about the shoes with a giant spring for a heel? If you had bought those, they would have solved all of your problems.
I still wear vibrams because they're comfortable, but they're a very situational shoe too. They're great for climbing around on rocks near the beach or other bodies of water. They can get wet, offer protection from sharp rocks and poisonous animals (urchins/rockfish) and they're very grippy on the bottom so you don't lose your footing on moss. Also, they're great for sprints. your standard running shoe weighs down the foot and forces you to conform to the shape of the shoe not the shape of your feet. With vibrams you're using you actual feet to grip into the ground to run...if that makes sense.

and as for the spring shoes, nurses that I use to work with swore by them, because they're on their feet all day and they're super comfortable. You can still buy them but they conceal the spring in a casing so it looks more professional.

Rule of thumb, if you're looking for a good minimalist shoe but can't find one the alternative is to always ask for a shoe with a wide toe-box, something that allows your toes to splay out in the shoe. If the shoe is narrow and comes to a point (like some dress shoes) and it scrunches your feet, you're setting yourself up for a lifetime of issues.
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Found Xero shoes . I’m a 4E , and I don’t think this brand is wide enough for me . Bummer
https://xeroshoes.com/shop/product-category/shoes-mens/
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Originally Posted By theory816⏩
Nah I love shoes. My go to brand is Colehaan sales section.
Your standard shoe, the ones with all the bells and whistles promising various types of support has been (second to simply being overweight) the cause of almost all of our lower back knee and ankle problems as we age. Think about what your typical shoe does. It holds the foot in place, with an obscene amount of support and unnatural cushioning, and you wear these shoes 8-12 hour per day. You're basically placing the equivalent of a cast on your feet which is causing all the muscles and bones in the feet to atrophy. A good test to see if the muscles in your feet are weak or underdeveloped is if you can move your individual toe digits (like you can move your fingers) if you cannot do that, and you can only move them all simultaneously, (like you're wearing an oven mitten) that means the muscles in your feet are weak. Minimalist shoes or in some cases going unshod is the remedy to that problem.

and I get it, its hard to get out of the habit of buy a shoe because it looks nice or are "fashionable" but is that really worth the lifetime of body aches? You feet are your foundation, when your feet are weak and unstable (being fully supported by a shoe to the point of muscle atrophy) that weakness is a cascade up the body.
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Originally Posted By MajorTendonitis⏩
Found Xero shoes . I’m a 4E , and I don’t think this brand is wide enough for me . Bummer
https://xeroshoes.com/shop/product-category/shoes-mens/
Trust me, they'll fit. i'm a size 14, 4E and those are the ones that I get. They run a tad large and they're very flexible. They look narrow, but they're not.

another fun fact, running barefoot/minimalist will also fix issues with your arch. If you have a fallen arch (like I do) running in minimalist shoes will give you an arch back, and if you have a high arch it will lower your arch to a normal level.

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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
Your standard shoe, the ones with all the bells and whistles promising various types of support has been (second to simply being overweight) the cause of almost all of our lower back knee and ankle problems as we age. Think about what your typical shoe does. It holds the foot in place, with an obscene amount of support and unnatural cushioning, and you wear these shoes 8-12 hour per day. You're basically placing the equivalent of a cast on your feet which is causing all the muscles and bones in the feet to atrophy. A good test to see if the muscles in your feet are weak or underdeveloped is if you can move your individual toe digits (like you can move your fingers) if you cannot do that, and you can only move them all simultaneously, (like you're wearing an oven mitten) that means the muscles in your feet are weak. Minimalist shoes or in some cases going unshod is the remedy to that problem.

and I get it, its hard to get out of the habit of buy a shoe because it looks nice or are "fashionable" but is that really worth the lifetime of body aches? You feet are your foundation, when your feet are weak and unstable (being fully supported by a shoe to the point of muscle atrophy) that weakness is a cascade up the body.
Nah bro we need shoes wtf lol.

Youre being redonkculous right now.

I'd say no shoes make more sense in places like the desert or hot places with soft dirt. But aint no way you can walk barefoot in modern societee.
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I like being barefoot, but I feel like when I get older shiits gonna hurt and I'll need shoes most of the time
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Originally Posted By MajorTendonitis⏩
Found Xero shoes . I’m a 4E , and I don’t think this brand is wide enough for me . Bummer
https://xeroshoes.com/shop/product-category/shoes-mens/
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Originally Posted By theory816⏩
Nah bro we need shoes wtf lol.

Youre being redonkculous right now.

I'd say no shoes make more sense in places like the desert or hot places with soft dirt. But aint no way you can walk barefoot in modern societee.
agreed, thats why we have minimalist shoes. If your job involves working in a sterile environment or at a job site where you need heavy duty shoes, theres no escaping that, but when you can, you should go barefoot or at least rock a minimalist shoe as much as possible.

It doesn't even have to be a certified minimalist shoe. Simply having a wide toe box is better than not having it:

I'm an officel so I have to wear busines casual on my job, there are even minimalist shoes to match more formal occasions...like these:


or these:


They're not some fancy brand and they're not "fashionable" but they're comfortable.

The goal is to allow your feet to breathe like the image on the right:
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
agreed, thats why we have minimalist shoes. If your job involves working in a sterile environment or at a job site where you need heavy duty shoes, theres no escaping that, but when you can, you should go barefoot or at least rock a minimalist shoe as much as possible.
Aint no way bro. I like running shoes. They look good and protect my feetz.
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
This^ (pronation) is the #1 cause of torn ACL, and general knee pain. Funny how people used to think that buying bigger & bigger arches in ur shoe was the way to correct it, LMAO.

There's so much dysfunction based entirely on the horrendous shoes that people buy..... And the people just keep buying the same awful shoes.
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Originally Posted By theory816⏩
Aint no way bro. I like running shoes. They look good and protect my feetz.
then you can buy a minimalist running shoe. Vivobearfoot are really nice. I've personally never tried them because they run too narrow and too small, but everyone that I know that wears them loves them. I'm not telling you to literally run around barefoot (although it is preferred if you live in a clean location with nice weather).
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585⏩
I remember reading about one of those tribes in the Amazon. They walk around all day barefoot and their feet are strong as chit. They climb trees, hike through jungle with dangerous insects and rugged terrain. They never get sore.
They were a people that lived in teotihuacan.

You can build up the roughness on the bottom of your feet by simply walking barefoot more often. Most people cannot walk on gravel or hot asphalt, but with time it is very easy to build up the resistance.
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
then you can buy a minimalist running shoe. Vivobearfoot are really nice. I've personally never tried them because they run too narrow and too small, but everyone that I know that wears them loves them. I'm not telling you to literally run around barefoot (although it is preferred if you live in a clean location with nice weather).
Regular shoes are stylish and comfortable enough me. I like to buy new shoes that are on sale every 3-5 months.
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