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post 1678815613 03-12-2023, 08:27 AM
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Shapiro, Peterson, Walsh, Crowder are all grifters honestly [srs]

And pseudointellectuals.

They all base their content on debating the most gullible representation for "lefties". Like middle class and above college students who have little experience in life and end up embarrassing themselves.

All they want is quick wealth built from low-cost, highly scalable business selling controversy and "owning the libs".


It is like a center-left persona, who is not a total moron and thinks communism/socialism doesnt work at all, going to the compounds of Knights of the Ku Klux Klan or Aryan Nations and asking loaded questions.

Then, any left-winger watching that would think all conservatives are brain dead.
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post 1678815743 03-12-2023, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted By GrankFallagher⏩
You only think that way because they are not lock step in tune with the bat chit leftist agenda and are conservative. Who is your idol, Don Lemon? LMAO.
I dont know who Lemon is. Srs. Bat chit craziness on the left is abundant, completely agree.

I just think the aforementioned are well-calculated and they care only about fame and grift. A lot of their content is engineered for views.
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post 1678816023 03-12-2023, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted By GrankFallagher⏩
To be fair, I am not a fan of Crowder however he was a leftist before he finally removed his head from his arse.
I come from a former Soviet East Euro country so I know all the dangers regarding communism, totalitarianism etc. I also have no clue why there is strip-tease in classrooms.


But tons of empirical evidence against these. Misinterpreted footage, statistics, word soups in quick succession to appear smart. And the money milking train with books, movies, channels, patreons.

They have never ever debated someone who is not a complete rose-tinted glasses moron.

Maybe Crowder is still a leftie but hates conservatives and doesn't care about making money angering them against the libs?


If Bernie Sanders, who is still a bit too much head in clouds for me personally, went on to ask "Why do you think Asians and Blacks are inferior?" in Aryan Nations - he will look like a genius. Lmao
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post 1678816063 03-12-2023, 08:42 AM
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what's your solution op
what is your solution to belittling and curving these fools?
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post 1678816393 03-12-2023, 08:52 AM
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Agreed on all except for Peterson, although he’s slowly getting corrupted into grifter territory.
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But are they wrong in what they say? That should be the only question that matters.
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Originally Posted By GrankFallagher⏩
Ben Shapiro is intelligent. He doesn't need the fame. Dude's a lawyer.
that is a job most people find boring

fame is good compared to desk-dwelling

lawyer is very well paid for just being a job compared to others, but media businesses scale like there is no tomorrow
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post 1678816653 03-12-2023, 08:58 AM
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pretty much everyone with a camera in front of them is a grifter these days, not just the people mentioned. produce bs content, upload it, forget about it, rinse, repeat. it will even be easier to do it now with stuff like chatgpt.
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Anyone who is a “content creator” is doing it for the money and is a grifter. If they weren’t doing to for the money, they would do it for free.

Anyone who “donates to a cause” or “buys merch” from one of these fools is a retard.
post 1678817373 03-12-2023, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted By GrankFallagher⏩
People only hate Candace Owens because she is a black female conservative. Historically, if you are black you vote Democrat. What did Joe Biden say? People like Larry Elder get demonized for being a black conservative. They aren't allowed to have an opinion other then the traditional vote Democrat and be a victim for the rest of your life mentality.
or Larry is high-IQ doesn't care about people and decides to take the contrarian view to bank roll himself massively; probably also realised that him being black would make me more popular

especially when he has the traditional FULL-SPECTRUM stance on pretty much everything
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During his media career, Elder published and gave airtime to misinformation and fringe views on scientific topics, such as secondhand tobacco smoke, climate change, and COVID-19 treatments.[37]

In a 2000 book, Elder suggested that the health hazards of secondhand tobacco smoke had been exaggerated, rejecting the scientific consensus that secondhand smoke is a serious threat that caused 2.5 million deaths in the half-century before 2014.[37]

Elder's website once described climate change as a "myth"; in a 2008 interview, he called climate change a "crock," disparaged Republicans such as John McCain and George W. Bush, who acknowledged climate change, and said that global warming is not a "big peril" to planet Earth.[37] In 2021, Elder acknowledged that the climate is warming,[37] but refused to accept the overwhelming scientific consensus that human activity is the primary contributor,[60] claiming that concern about climate change is "alarmism."[60][37]

In 2021, Elder pledged to remove current statewide public health mandates for state government workers in California, such as COVID-19 vaccine requirements, face mask requirements, or regular COVID-19 testing.[60][82] Elder encouraged "people in high-risk categories, people who are older" to be vaccinated but said that "young people" do not need to be vaccinated.[82] In 2021, Elder did not challenge a call-in listener to his radio show who espoused COVID-19 misinformation suggesting that COVID-19 vaccines were dangerous and part of a Bill Gates-orchestrated plot, and a page on Elder's website promoted the call-in listener's comments by saying, "You'll want to hear this physician's take on the vaccines."[37]

Elder has proposed suspending or waiving the requirements of the California Environmental Quality Act, contending that doing so would speed up housing construction.[72][60][37]
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post 1678817423 03-12-2023, 09:17 AM
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Nah I like them srs.

Except crowder.
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They take on the people who are visible on the other side.

Should they go debate obscure leftist thought leaders that nobody had heard of?
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post 1678818103 03-12-2023, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
They take on the people who are visible on the other side.

Should they go debate obscure leftist thought leaders that nobody had heard of?
early 20s college kids being the visible voice of the left

pls jon
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Add Paul Joseph Watson to that list.

Anyway, it's all Cointelpro and PSYOPs.

Matt Walsh would have still been uploading videos from the driver's seat of his car, if not for undercover 3 letter agencies posing as radical SJWs to add fuel to the culture war and continue to sow the seeds of division. Powerful divisive tactics that have led to successfully distracting the average citizen from uniting against government overreach and corruption.

The same Billionaire backers that fund obvious undercover government agents like antifa, also fund the likes of the right wing counterculture takeover.
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They're all gatekeepers whose job is to stop people from going further right than is deemed acceptable
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Yep.

Examples of real intellectuals:
Terry Tao
Ed Witten
Manjul Bhargava
Leonard Susskind
Lisa Randall

If we're looking at more political fields specifically, here are some people I think are smart (but I don't necessarily agree with):

Jeffrey Sachs
Michael Mcfaul
James Acton
Ankit Panda
Paul Krugman
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daily wire/shapiro full grift.

Walsh and Crowder are legit. Theyre saying things that can/have got them banned. and yes they like the money as well, but i feel their intentions are true.
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What are they selling?

JPs books are pretty professional. They aren't copy/paste pamphlets on how to get girls.

Are they using their clout to sell pure phremone soap or get rich quick scams?

There's a big difference between an actual grifter and someone who is popular because they put out good, reliable content.
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
early 20s college kids being the visible voice of the left

pls jon
How many leftist political show hosts would be willing to have someone like Ben Shapiro on their shows to hold reasonable discussions where they aren't just shouting over the right winger and then making the show all about their screeching leftist commentary? How many leftist political figures would be willing to hold reasonable discussions in a similar manner with any of this right wingers?
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Originally Posted By ShiiiiitPickle⏩
How many leftist political show hosts would be willing to have someone like Ben Shapiro on their shows to hold reasonable discussions where they aren't just shouting over the right winger and then making the show all about their screeching leftist commentary? How many leftist political figures would be willing to hold reasonable discussions in a similar manner with any of this right wingers?
Ben never has a reasonable discussion though. He strawmans people and tells them they are stupid and then rattles off points in argument ad exhaustium and doesn't give people enough time to refute what he says. He comes with his own cherry picked "stats" and expects others to refute what he said. A real debate allows each side time to prepare, gather evidence, etc with topics discussed beforehand. The reason no intellectual lefty will bother with him is it isn't worth the effort, and he will use dishonest tactics to "win" the debate. Most of these people have jobs that are more important than going round debating kids and screeching about transgender people.
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Wrong.

I've seen Shapiro debate anyone ranging from college students to seasoned TV anchors. You're implying that he avoids a real challenge from "smart libs" and that's simply incorrect, unless you can prove that he selectively rejects interview requests or something.

Same with Crowder. There's a "Change my Mind" table in the middle of the street and anyone is welcome to debate. It's not his fault that the only ones who show up are the "dumb ones", liberals are more than welcome to bring their best and brightest to his public events.
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Originally Posted By TrueTruth⏩
Wrong.

I've seen Shapiro debate anyone ranging from college students to seasoned TV anchors. You're implying that he avoids a real challenge from "smart libs" and that's simply incorrect, unless you can prove that he selectively rejects interview requests or something.

Same with Crowder. There's a "Change my Mind" table in the middle of the street and anyone is welcome to debate. It's not his fault that the only ones who show up are the "dumb ones", liberals are more than welcome to bring their best and brightest to his public events.
That's the thing. The best and brightest libs have real jobs. They aren't pundits. They actually are scientists or analysts for the govt or doing some other important chit.
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I was into all them like a year ago. Pretty much all during Trump when they all started popping off. Now all that chit just bores me to death..yes I still hate leftie cucks, but I can hate them both.
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Originally Posted By ShiiiiitPickle⏩
Maybe we should just agree that both sides have plenty of retards in all this.
They do, but the right has a shocking scarcity of actual intellectuals in most fields outside of law and econ. It's actually bizarre because in the 70's and 80's, it wasn't like this. The right used to be more educated.
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Originally Posted By PowerPal⏩
I was into all them like a year ago. Pretty much all during Trump when they all started popping off. Now all that chit just bores me to death..yes I still hate leftie cucks, but I can hate them both.
I just think it's funny how liberals constantly screech about being "educated" (i.e. they act like a barista with a useless 4-year liberal arts degree is automatically more intelligent than a master tradie because "muh education!"), then they piss and moan that someone like Steven Crowder just picks on the dumbest of liberals when he sets up those "Change My Mind" discussion booths on college campuses.

Dude literally goes to the holy grail of ivory tower liberal eltism by doing those things at college campuses of grown adults where he invites anyone who wants to debate/discuss politics with him to stop by. I thought these people were supposed to be "educated", and were therefore already among the cream of the crop of liberals he could possibly try to debate? But apparently that's "unfair" now...
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Originally Posted By ShiiiiitPickle⏩
I just think it's funny how liberals constantly screech about being "educated" (i.e. they act like a barista with a useless 4-year liberal arts degree is automatically more intelligent than a master tradie because "muh education!"), then they piss and moan that someone like Steven Crowder just picks on the dumbest of liberals when he sets up those "Change My Mind" discussion booths on college campuses. Dude literally goes to the holy grail of ivory tower liberal eltism by doing those things at college campuses of grown adults where he invites anyone who wants to debate/discuss politics with him to stop by.
Right, but how often is he debating physicists, chemists, mathematicians, economists, or engineers? These guys are debating gender studies and sociology people. Not really the cream of the crop, even at an ivy. Someone like Richard Feynman would have verbally molested Steven Crowder in a debate. It's just these days, most scientists are less outspoken because you have nothing to gain and everything to lose by putting yourself out there. All you'll get is nazi hate mail and death threats, and you'll gain nothing.
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