I am daily average Joe user and I want to optimise bang-for-buck. Impartial to brand/design nut-hugging because I can easily adapt to whatever.

I have had Galaxies before 2020 and in 2020 decided to try Xiaomi Note 8 Pro. Have had it for 3 years now.

I am not comparing flagships as getting a flagship is a bit of a waste of money.

Smartphone choice is basically Chinese Androids, established Androids (Samsung, Google) and IPhone.

My experience with Xiaomi was ok for the cheap price, but the battery started degrading hard af after 2nd year mark. I actually think an iPhone can be only 10% more expensive considering how much longer it lasts, assuming you do not get the newest.

Only Huawei was a strong contender for mid-range quality builds, even against IPhone but it is rendered unusable by the Google Services ban.

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One thing I was looking for was smaller screens - my Xiaomi was 6'5 inches and it I didn't realise I would be such a problem - can't bend my knee properly to tie my laces when it is in the pocket.

Never want a phone that is above 6-6'1 again.

It was interesting to compare Samsung's/Google's (especially Pixel 6a) mid-range choices with Apple's (13 mini and SE 22).

Decided to go with SE as the resell value retain makes it almost just slightly more expensive than the Pixel - so worth trying it.

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So far:

- Smoother flows than Chinese or Samsung's - not a huge difference but you can tell. There is definitely a "this feels more premium" feel.

- The only thing I miss is the cracked customised versions of YouTube where you dont pay for premium but have the features. However, Google has started cracking down on those which was expected.

- I am a software dev by trade, who knows how to code Android apps and I don't share the "true tech guys will tell you Android is so much better" sentiment.

Better in speed depends on the execution of the maker - Google's stock android can be good but app development is fragmented due to the many versions/builds/manufacturers.

Also, Android is most devices globally, but in the West it is more 50/50. However, Westerners are richer so more likely to spend on apps. So focusing on optimising IOS development for your app idea makes sense.

If Apple brings down the prices of Minis and establishes a clear line of SEs and Minis as mid-range/budget options I think I might be converted.

https://arstechnica.com/information-...-to-be-hacked/lol

I bet this ***got didnt even read because the no attention span

The original SE is the best phone ever (srs)

Google tells users of some Android phones: Nuke voice calling to avoid infection

Samsung android ftw

no I know but I was talking about how he didnt read the OP and started coping

no i didn't read bec too long and only women go on the internet and write essays, get to the point. Don't resp to this post or i'll neg you

That's one of the two reasons I can't switch even though FOMO of owning an iPhone kicks in every time I get a new Samsung. I just want to download apps and not subscribe to 15 different platforms with my CC.

Second reason is icloud. Probably can be turned off but all this syncing and buying extra cloud data, having to log in and all my stuff being connected to my acc etc. grinds my gears. Also tiny back button and touch screen feel is a bit weird.

brb woke up feeling like **** again brb uncertainty, not trolling at all; I have lost all hope for katya as she cant think critically, which I admittedly failed on as well; can't really get over you and Tuga though


as for the iPhone thing - the SE really comes out almost as cheap as a Chinese one if you adjust for the re-sell value and how long it lasts

a Pixel can be better but it is a close call still

iPhone becomes totally not worth if to talk about iPhone 13 or 14 and their Pro versions

Wow, someone actually bought an SE.

Green bubbles not even once.

no playback while in pocket thobut google is cracking down, arent they?

vanced shut down, and it ****ed up google pay security if you do the syncing of the account

newpipe is good but no account sync support


I dont think any other app is cucked on Apple apart from youtube premium

iCloud is a nice addition to google drive

I still use chrome on the iOS as I can sync links from my PC

For real man. I wish Apple would come out with something in that size again.

Is everyone out here using a Fanny pack to carry these tv size phones?

why I got the mini lol going to get regular pro next phone tho

I'll be interested once SE dumps the iphone 8 body and moves to the iphone X body. That forehead and chin are fugly.

Try connecting your iphone to your PC. That, and the terrible battery life made me go back to android.

I'm not a cuck so I don't spend anything on apps.

I tend to stick to Androids that still have an SD slot. Once SD slots go away completely, I'll still carry around a USB-C flash drive. 256gb just isn't enough if you take video.

The iphone SE is definitely an underrated phone. Just wish they would upgrade the display.

cant even sit down with the 6'5 Xiaomi when wearing jeans unless I pull out

which cracked android youtube app are you using?

Nokia 1600b crew

SE is legit

"budget" friendly in comparison to the flagship phones

the SE 4 from what i am reading will have a full display similar to the XR or 14

and it'll probably be like half the price of a regular iphone

i didn't ready any of that lmfao. you have any idea what i bill per hour OP?

act like my time aint worth ****

dropped my iphone se

screen broke, didn't even care.

reactivated note 10 plus

iphones are chit

Why would I connect my iPhone to a PC when I can connect it to my MacBook?

Battery life on my 13 Pro Max is very good

If you already made the mistake of buying a mac, then just ignore me. You probably pay for a music streaming subscription too. LMAO

I'm glad apple finally managed to get decent battery life.

with poverty 20 watt charging i sure hope so. absolutely pathetic a flagship phone in 2023 is still so far behind in such a critical feature.