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05-30-2023, 12:26 PM
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What’s the point of going to college?
Unless your becoming a doctor,teacher,engineer etc?
I graduated navy “a” school but that’s more of a trade, I did a semester at my local community college and I just felt like there was no point, I used to leave class early to lift at planet fitness
Am I missing out?
I graduated navy “a” school but that’s more of a trade, I did a semester at my local community college and I just felt like there was no point, I used to leave class early to lift at planet fitness
Am I missing out?
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If you don't get paid to do something you like doing, find out what would make you happy. If that job requires college, then go to college.
Don't spend six figures on it. You can check all the college boxes for pennies on the dollar compared to what many on the Misc would have you believe. There are tons of alternatives out there that will advance your education.
Don't spend six figures on it. You can check all the college boxes for pennies on the dollar compared to what many on the Misc would have you believe. There are tons of alternatives out there that will advance your education.
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I want to go because i feel it would upgrade my life overall, like in every possible aspect not just the career. And it would serve as a spark & a way to snowball into greater things. idk i want to study because i never did.
Its free here though. if it cost money, **** that chit
Its free here though. if it cost money, **** that chit
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05-30-2023, 12:39 PM
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I think its good because its focused learning. You'll at least have something to your name when its done and over. Some colleges may be better than others for certain subjects like engineering. But colleges and CC is two different things and I think everyone should have 1-2 years of CC under their belt.
And also, engineering and doctors are not the only two professions we need out there irl. We can see the effects of this in modern societee - health problems, pollution, overcrowding, waste, poor thinking skills, poor foreign relations. Granted, there are some tool boxes from science and engineering that can be used to solve problems in other disciplines and vice versa.
And also, engineering and doctors are not the only two professions we need out there irl. We can see the effects of this in modern societee - health problems, pollution, overcrowding, waste, poor thinking skills, poor foreign relations. Granted, there are some tool boxes from science and engineering that can be used to solve problems in other disciplines and vice versa.
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Originally Posted By DomMJr⏩
It's true that once upon a time, the vast majority of the population was illiterate, and only a select few scholars in certain positions within society could read.Most colleges started as training for priests. They added other parts after.
What's your point?
You want to go back to a tine in history where most information was only accessible by a tiny few?
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05-30-2023, 01:19 PM
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the reward for such feats in the west is some dirty used up pussy, thats on the high end
on the low end american college turns you into some kind of marxist cuck tranny i guess
on the low end american college turns you into some kind of marxist cuck tranny i guess
05-30-2023, 01:44 PM
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well buddy why didn't you ask those men/women you saluted and bowed down to what the point of going to college was?
lol@graduated A school, bro thats the requirement of your job and nothing special, if yours was you coulda got college credits for it.
college was fun af, hella sloots, hella parties, and passing tests hungover/drunk was part of the challenge. Its for the experience, not to prep you for a job, and from an employer standpoint its too filter out the peasants.
lol@graduated A school, bro thats the requirement of your job and nothing special, if yours was you coulda got college credits for it.
college was fun af, hella sloots, hella parties, and passing tests hungover/drunk was part of the challenge. Its for the experience, not to prep you for a job, and from an employer standpoint its too filter out the peasants.
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I went to college for a generic business degree.
only making ~$60k right now, but I don't regret it.
mainly because I didnt get 6 figures into debt like many dumbphucks do.
I did 2 years of community college and got my A.A.S, then transferred to state school to finish my bachelors . I graduated with 0 student loan debt, and total out of pocket costs were like ~$12k-$15k .
I partied my ass off, made some lifelong friends, and have a ton of amazing memories.
no regrets.
my salary sucks now but I'm in a decent organization with good prospects. Its my goal to exit wagie slave life and start my own business tho
only making ~$60k right now, but I don't regret it.
mainly because I didnt get 6 figures into debt like many dumbphucks do.
I did 2 years of community college and got my A.A.S, then transferred to state school to finish my bachelors . I graduated with 0 student loan debt, and total out of pocket costs were like ~$12k-$15k .
I partied my ass off, made some lifelong friends, and have a ton of amazing memories.
no regrets.
my salary sucks now but I'm in a decent organization with good prospects. Its my goal to exit wagie slave life and start my own business tho
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Originally Posted By iloveus⏩
That’s a good excuse if you don’t want to go to college I guess.To enslave you and your future family in debt.
But do you realize that there are plenty of accredited schools out there where you can get a good education from start to finish (terminal degree/doctorate) for less than the cost of a pickup truck?
And if you don’t want to go that far, you can get a bachelors degree for less than $20k.
Especially with todays options.
And I’m not talking about diploma mills. I’m talking about regionally accredited institutions.
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As long as you find a means to pay off the tuition it's kind of necessary in this job market. The Bachelors degree is the new HS diploma, so it's necessary in a lot of fields if you want to stand out. Also, an Associates degree from a CC doesn't count because that's basically like having a "Google certification" in the expertise you studied for.
05-30-2023, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
Answered his question.It's true that once upon a time, the vast majority of the population was illiterate, and only a select few scholars in certain positions within society could read.
What's your point?
You want to go back to a tine in history where most information was only accessible by a tiny few?
What's your point?
You want to go back to a tine in history where most information was only accessible by a tiny few?
I think many schools now make students dumber than before they went. Guess you went to one of those.
05-30-2023, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
I’m not sure if that’s just something you heard somewhere, but that’s not remotely true.Also, an Associates degree from a CC doesn't count because that's basically like having a "Google certification" in the expertise you studied for.
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Originally Posted By DomMJr⏩
No, you didn’t. He asked what’s the point of going to college, and you gave some random historical fact. That does not answer the question.Answered his question.
I think many schools now make students dumber than before they went. Guess you went to one of those.
I think many schools now make students dumber than before they went. Guess you went to one of those.
My question to you stands -
What the **** is your point?
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Originally Posted By pojo18⏩
Did the same thing pretty much. Getting my masters now only because my company is paying for it. My dad paid for my community college and B.A. from State U.I went to college for a generic business degree.
only making ~$60k right now, but I don't regret it.
mainly because I didnt get 6 figures into debt like many dumbphucks do.
I did 2 years of community college and got my A.A.S, then transferred to state school to finish my bachelors . I graduated with 0 student loan debt, and total out of pocket costs were like ~$12k-$15k .
I partied my ass off, made some lifelong friends, and have a ton of amazing memories.
no regrets.
my salary sucks now but I'm in a decent organization with good prospects. Its my goal to exit wagie slave life and start my own business tho
only making ~$60k right now, but I don't regret it.
mainly because I didnt get 6 figures into debt like many dumbphucks do.
I did 2 years of community college and got my A.A.S, then transferred to state school to finish my bachelors . I graduated with 0 student loan debt, and total out of pocket costs were like ~$12k-$15k .
I partied my ass off, made some lifelong friends, and have a ton of amazing memories.
no regrets.
my salary sucks now but I'm in a decent organization with good prospects. Its my goal to exit wagie slave life and start my own business tho
I would have never even thought of attending college if I would have had to pay a single cent of it out of my own pocket. Just wouldn’t have been worth it to me.
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
maybe you can hang out with 29 iqNo, you didn’t. He asked what’s the point of going to college, and you gave some random historical fact. That does not answer the question.
My question to you stands -
What the **** is your point?
My question to you stands -
What the **** is your point?
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Originally Posted By DomMJr⏩
So you have no answer. You were just typing random stuff. Understood.maybe you can hang out with 29 iq
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From what I've read many feel similar. College attendance is down.
With AI coming out, and becoming more and more popular, i can imagine the need for a college degree will become less. White collar jobs look to be taking a hit from AI technology. If fewer people went to college I suspect that would be a good thing. Universities cost to much, waste young kids time during the prime of their lives, and provide poor education anymore.
With AI coming out, and becoming more and more popular, i can imagine the need for a college degree will become less. White collar jobs look to be taking a hit from AI technology. If fewer people went to college I suspect that would be a good thing. Universities cost to much, waste young kids time during the prime of their lives, and provide poor education anymore.
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Nothing technically wrong with it but people do need to think it through before attending.
Just assuming they will be highly paid for a generic degree is what usually happens unless you are in an actual thing like stem.
Look at any office. It will be full of women with degrees and tons of debt all making the same as the people without any college.
Just assuming they will be highly paid for a generic degree is what usually happens unless you are in an actual thing like stem.
Look at any office. It will be full of women with degrees and tons of debt all making the same as the people without any college.
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
It most certainly is. You can get "A" job without one but if you want a decent job you can call a career, you need a 4 year degree.I’m not sure if that’s just something you heard somewhere, but that’s not remotely true.
Just look at job descriptions on LinkedIn or Indeed. There is no decent paying job that doesn't require a degree there are 4 tiers:
1. The minimum wage fast food jobs (no degree required)
2.The $15-$20/hour entry level job that a college student typically works part time that doesnt require a degree.
3 the upper 20's to high 30's jobs that undoubtedly require a degree or a comical amount of experience like 10 years.
4. Then everything in tier 4 is degree only fields (unless they're contracted roles) supervisory/managerial roles.
I'm aware you don't need one to be an SWE or to work in DA, but you're at a massive disadvantage (uphill battle) pursuing it without one. And those are not "normie jobs" anyone can comfortably jump into. If you want an income to be able to live alone you need to be in at least tier 3 and more often than not, to get intonthat tier you need a 4 year degree.
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It has its value, but that value can be way overblown.
I think the pre-req classes like art history, philosophy, ethics, etc... are super fascinating and something that a lot of people can or do benefit from. A well rounded college curriculum teaches critical thinking and adaptability.
For instance in one semester I may go from a religion class, to a calculus class, to a marketing class, and then a biology class. Sure, a lot aren't pertinent to my "job" but die on the hill that it's ultimately useful... just sucks higher education is so expensive.
If you want to be a professional (doctor, lawyer, engineer, accountant, finance, etc...) its expected and in nearly all cases required you have a college degree at a minimum. Basically STEM type fields.
I'm an exec finance brah with a BS and Masters and literally no one I've ever worked with didn't have at least a bachelor's degree.
I make a good living both I got KILLED with student loan debt and the job isn't exactly super interesting (but it can be, especially at the higher levels).
That being said, a lot of trades pay really well if you're reasonably smart and a good problem solver, you'll do better than 80%+ of college grads. You don't need a college degree to be a great carpenter, electrician, hvac tech, etc...
And the ones that are well-rounded will build good customer relationships, start their own business, manage their books well, hire people, and make a ton of money.
$100k isn't much anymore and just every trade (cop, electrician, Plumber, dealer mechanic, roofer, etc...) with 5+ years experience near a big city is going to pull that with OT. Meanwhile, 5 years out of their Marketing or business management degree, most are fighting for a $75k position (if they're lucky).
Basically everyone I know under 40 that makes $250k+ a year is:
- Doctor
- Lawyer
- Finance/Accounting (director level in a corp or IBanker)
- Tradesman that started a business
- Entrepreneur (many had seed money from parents)
I think the pre-req classes like art history, philosophy, ethics, etc... are super fascinating and something that a lot of people can or do benefit from. A well rounded college curriculum teaches critical thinking and adaptability.
For instance in one semester I may go from a religion class, to a calculus class, to a marketing class, and then a biology class. Sure, a lot aren't pertinent to my "job" but die on the hill that it's ultimately useful... just sucks higher education is so expensive.
If you want to be a professional (doctor, lawyer, engineer, accountant, finance, etc...) its expected and in nearly all cases required you have a college degree at a minimum. Basically STEM type fields.
I'm an exec finance brah with a BS and Masters and literally no one I've ever worked with didn't have at least a bachelor's degree.
I make a good living both I got KILLED with student loan debt and the job isn't exactly super interesting (but it can be, especially at the higher levels).
That being said, a lot of trades pay really well if you're reasonably smart and a good problem solver, you'll do better than 80%+ of college grads. You don't need a college degree to be a great carpenter, electrician, hvac tech, etc...
And the ones that are well-rounded will build good customer relationships, start their own business, manage their books well, hire people, and make a ton of money.
$100k isn't much anymore and just every trade (cop, electrician, Plumber, dealer mechanic, roofer, etc...) with 5+ years experience near a big city is going to pull that with OT. Meanwhile, 5 years out of their Marketing or business management degree, most are fighting for a $75k position (if they're lucky).
Basically everyone I know under 40 that makes $250k+ a year is:
- Doctor
- Lawyer
- Finance/Accounting (director level in a corp or IBanker)
- Tradesman that started a business
- Entrepreneur (many had seed money from parents)
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Adding onto my above post, I don't regret college. I learned a ton and it really expanded my mind and interests (although a finance brah, I LOVED the philosophy, history, religion, biology, etc classes).
But if I could do it all over again knowing what I know now.... I would have probably trained a real estate associated trade like electrician, hvac, etc... right out of high school and saved a ton of money while climbing the ranks to invest in real estate and start flipping homes and being a landlord.
Maybe open a gym too.
I'd be way wealthier than I am now and enjoy my day more.
But hindsight is always 20-20 and I had a lot of friends amd family want to go into trades when I got out of high school and started college and the majority of them struggled HARD to land good union jobs (the ones that pay $100k). Many broke their bodies down and 15 years later are still killing themselves to make $60k a year.
Meanwhile, I get the luxury of a nice paycheck and sitting in an office chair at home, ordering other people to do stuff. So grass is always greener.
But if I could do it all over again knowing what I know now.... I would have probably trained a real estate associated trade like electrician, hvac, etc... right out of high school and saved a ton of money while climbing the ranks to invest in real estate and start flipping homes and being a landlord.
Maybe open a gym too.
I'd be way wealthier than I am now and enjoy my day more.
But hindsight is always 20-20 and I had a lot of friends amd family want to go into trades when I got out of high school and started college and the majority of them struggled HARD to land good union jobs (the ones that pay $100k). Many broke their bodies down and 15 years later are still killing themselves to make $60k a year.
Meanwhile, I get the luxury of a nice paycheck and sitting in an office chair at home, ordering other people to do stuff. So grass is always greener.
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
Re-read the part of your post that I quoted because you misunderstood me.It most certainly is. You can get "A" job without one but if you want a decent job you can call a career, you need a 4 year degree.
Just look at job descriptions on LinkedIn or Indeed. There is no decent paying job that doesn't require a degree there are 4 tiers:
1. The minimum wage fast food jobs (no degree required)
2.The $15-$20/hour entry level job that a college student typically works part time that doesnt require a degree.
3 the upper 20's to high 30's jobs that undoubtedly require a degree or a comical amount of experience like 10 years.
4. Then everything in tier 4 is degree only fields (unless they're contracted roles) supervisory/managerial roles.
I'm aware you don't need one to be an SWE or to work in DA, but you're at a massive disadvantage (uphill battle) pursuing it without one. And those are not "normie jobs" anyone can comfortably jump into. If you want an income to be able to live alone you need to be in at least tier 3 and more often than not, to get intonthat tier you need a 4 year degree.
Just look at job descriptions on LinkedIn or Indeed. There is no decent paying job that doesn't require a degree there are 4 tiers:
1. The minimum wage fast food jobs (no degree required)
2.The $15-$20/hour entry level job that a college student typically works part time that doesnt require a degree.
3 the upper 20's to high 30's jobs that undoubtedly require a degree or a comical amount of experience like 10 years.
4. Then everything in tier 4 is degree only fields (unless they're contracted roles) supervisory/managerial roles.
I'm aware you don't need one to be an SWE or to work in DA, but you're at a massive disadvantage (uphill battle) pursuing it without one. And those are not "normie jobs" anyone can comfortably jump into. If you want an income to be able to live alone you need to be in at least tier 3 and more often than not, to get intonthat tier you need a 4 year degree.
I'm always advocating for people getting degrees.
My point there was that a two-year degree is not the equivalent of a Google certificate lol. Of course it depends on the community college. In my area, there are some community colleges that are not great, but there are other VERY good community colleges where the instructors are just professors from the big schools in the area moonlighting on the side.
To your point though, it's definitely not as useful as a bachelor's degree.
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