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Is it wrong to only want to date women that make over $100k base per year?
I honestly don’t think I would be able to date someone who makes bare minimum $100k base per year.
My ex girlfriend made $170k base plus around $30k bonus per year.
I only make $80k but still wouldn’t settle for less than $100k a year, preferably closer to $130k plus.
My ex girlfriend made $170k base plus around $30k bonus per year.
I only make $80k but still wouldn’t settle for less than $100k a year, preferably closer to $130k plus.
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Wouldnt say its wrong, but it is kind of stupid.
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Originally Posted By SEVIN123⏩
So you would be the undateable woman then. Life is harsh. Your girl making 3 times as much as you is even harsher.I honestly don’t think I would be able to date someone who makes bare minimum $100k base per year.
My ex girlfriend made $170k base plus around $30k bonus per year.
I only make $80k but still wouldn’t settle for less than $100k a year, preferably closer to $130k plus.
My ex girlfriend made $170k base plus around $30k bonus per year.
I only make $80k but still wouldn’t settle for less than $100k a year, preferably closer to $130k plus.
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07-14-2023, 10:37 AM
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I've made a thread like that on here before. This place is full of people that don't want their women woking because:
- Archaic "in the kitchen cooking or cleaning and raising kids" thoughts.
- The closer to pay she is compared to you (or god forbid is the breadwinner) the less respect she'll have for you.
It's BS to me though. If you want an even better living situation, to live very generously and be generous for both of your families, to give your kids the best possible financial stability and future possible, you should both work.
The only time it doesn't make sense for the wife to work would be if her income was lower than the costs of childcare ($750-$1k/mo at a public daycare on average, or $2.5k/mo for private nanny on average). So taking taxes into consideration she should make like $50k+ just to break even with a nanny, and maybe $100k+ for it to add enough value to the family. If you go the cheaper public daycare route then maybe closer to $75k for it to be worth it.
- Archaic "in the kitchen cooking or cleaning and raising kids" thoughts.
- The closer to pay she is compared to you (or god forbid is the breadwinner) the less respect she'll have for you.
It's BS to me though. If you want an even better living situation, to live very generously and be generous for both of your families, to give your kids the best possible financial stability and future possible, you should both work.
The only time it doesn't make sense for the wife to work would be if her income was lower than the costs of childcare ($750-$1k/mo at a public daycare on average, or $2.5k/mo for private nanny on average). So taking taxes into consideration she should make like $50k+ just to break even with a nanny, and maybe $100k+ for it to add enough value to the family. If you go the cheaper public daycare route then maybe closer to $75k for it to be worth it.
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Originally Posted By Visel⏩
If you need your woman to make money so your kids have a good life, then that says more about you than anybody else. There's more to life than consumerism and keeping up with the joneses.I've made a thread like that on here before. This place is full of people that don't want their women woking because:
- Archaic "in the kitchen cooking or cleaning and raising kids" thoughts.
- The closer to pay she is compared to you (or god forbid is the breadwinner) the less respect she'll have for you.
It's BS to me though. If you want an even better living situation, to live very generously and be generous for both of your families, to give your kids the best possible financial stability and future possible, you should both work.
The only time it doesn't make sense for the wife to work would be if her income was lower than the costs of childcare ($750-$1k/mo at a public daycare on average, or $2.5k/mo for private nanny on average). So taking taxes into consideration she should make like $50k+ just to break even with a nanny, and maybe $100k+ for it to add enough value to the family. If you go the cheaper public daycare route then maybe closer to $75k for it to be worth it.
- Archaic "in the kitchen cooking or cleaning and raising kids" thoughts.
- The closer to pay she is compared to you (or god forbid is the breadwinner) the less respect she'll have for you.
It's BS to me though. If you want an even better living situation, to live very generously and be generous for both of your families, to give your kids the best possible financial stability and future possible, you should both work.
The only time it doesn't make sense for the wife to work would be if her income was lower than the costs of childcare ($750-$1k/mo at a public daycare on average, or $2.5k/mo for private nanny on average). So taking taxes into consideration she should make like $50k+ just to break even with a nanny, and maybe $100k+ for it to add enough value to the family. If you go the cheaper public daycare route then maybe closer to $75k for it to be worth it.
And yeah, the closer she is to your income and especially if she earns more, the highest the chances of divorce are. Thats the #1 predictor of divorce, wife getting a raise and outearning/equaling the husband, triggering her natural "i want a man that has more than me" mentality. This isnt just redpill/blackpill bull****, this is statistically proven to be right.
By all means, you do you guys. Go be a goldigging man lol (crazy to think 15 years ago we shamed women for having that mentality, now its men that think like that). At the end of the day, when serching for a woman to be the mother of your kids and your life companion, if the money she makes is on your list of priorities, you probably should stay single. There are 10+ much more important traits to look for in a woman.
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
thisI'd rather have my woman take care of my children instead of working a slave job.
I don’t even want my wife to work tbh. Just be a good mother
I don’t want my mother to be working with dudes that are tryna bang her
07-14-2023, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
Well I'll tell you this, as an American, if you date/marry someone from another country, 99% of the time they're going to want to be able to send money back to their family due to a mix of cultural expectations and desire to help for poverty. Green cards, fraud, scares the piss out of some people (watch highlights of 90 day fiance). Knowing she makes a good income alleviates the concern and burden from this.If you need your woman to make money so your kids have a good life, then that says more about you than anybody else. There's more to life than consumerism and keeping up with the joneses.
And yeah, the closer she is to your income and especially if she earns more, the highest the chances of divorce are. Thats the #1 predictor of divorce, wife getting a raise and outearning/equaling the husband, triggering her natural "i want a man that has more than me" mentality. This isnt just redpill/blackpill bull****, this is statistically proven to be right.
By all means, you do you guys. Go be a goldigging man lol (crazy to think 15 years ago we shamed women for having that mentality, now its men that think like that). At the end of the day, when serching for a woman to be the mother of your kids and your life companion, if the money she makes is on your list of priorities, you probably should stay single. There are 10+ much more important traits to look for in a woman.
And yeah, the closer she is to your income and especially if she earns more, the highest the chances of divorce are. Thats the #1 predictor of divorce, wife getting a raise and outearning/equaling the husband, triggering her natural "i want a man that has more than me" mentality. This isnt just redpill/blackpill bull****, this is statistically proven to be right.
By all means, you do you guys. Go be a goldigging man lol (crazy to think 15 years ago we shamed women for having that mentality, now its men that think like that). At the end of the day, when serching for a woman to be the mother of your kids and your life companion, if the money she makes is on your list of priorities, you probably should stay single. There are 10+ much more important traits to look for in a woman.
Just LOL at people wanting to date/marry a Westernized feminist liberal youth. When plenty of conservative and traditional women exist.
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A woman that’s driven by earning a lot of money herself is basically a dude IMO, that’s masculine energy
I’m not saying I want some incompetent airhead tho
I’m not saying I want some incompetent airhead tho
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I don't really give a single fk what a women earns along as they aren't flat broke
And not asking me for $ lol
And not asking me for $ lol
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Originally Posted By Visel⏩
I really dont get your post, seems like you are now agreeing with me, but hard to tell. Nobody said anything about marrying a poor chick from the philipines lol.Well I'll tell you this, as an American, if you date/marry someone from another country, 99% of the time they're going to want to be able to send money back to their family due to a mix of cultural expectations and desire to help for poverty. Green cards, fraud, scares the piss out of some people (watch highlights of 90 day fiance). Knowing she makes a good income alleviates the concern and burden from this.
Just LOL at people wanting to date/marry a Westernized feminist liberal youth. When plenty of conservative and traditional women exist.
Just LOL at people wanting to date/marry a Westernized feminist liberal youth. When plenty of conservative and traditional women exist.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
factsWhy would you care lmao
Youth and beauty are all that matters srs
Youth and beauty are all that matters srs
Even cristiano Ronaldo picked up a sloot that worked as a sales assistant for Gucci (making like $300) a week. Cristiano net worth is over $500 million and will even date a minimum wage sloot, yet miscers Wanna prioritise dating masculine wagecuck females making 6 figures
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Originally Posted By Visel⏩
The whole women working thing is a byproduct of WWII (they had to by necessity) and feminism. I'm not opposed to it but you already see the effects of it decades later when they've pushed this role onto women and advertised it as some dream of independence and freedom when ironically 90% of them are just NPC slaves to a corporation that they simply aren't built for. And at the same time de-incentivized the family home/structure, traditional households and have broken it up leaving kids messed up.I've made a thread like that on here before. This place is full of people that don't want their women woking because:
- Archaic "in the kitchen cooking or cleaning and raising kids" thoughts.
- The closer to pay she is compared to you (or god forbid is the breadwinner) the less respect she'll have for you.
It's BS to me though. If you want an even better living situation, to live very generously and be generous for both of your families, to give your kids the best possible financial stability and future possible, you should both work.
The only time it doesn't make sense for the wife to work would be if her income was lower than the costs of childcare ($750-$1k/mo at a public daycare on average, or $2.5k/mo for private nanny on average). So taking taxes into consideration she should make like $50k+ just to break even with a nanny, and maybe $100k+ for it to add enough value to the family.
- Archaic "in the kitchen cooking or cleaning and raising kids" thoughts.
- The closer to pay she is compared to you (or god forbid is the breadwinner) the less respect she'll have for you.
It's BS to me though. If you want an even better living situation, to live very generously and be generous for both of your families, to give your kids the best possible financial stability and future possible, you should both work.
The only time it doesn't make sense for the wife to work would be if her income was lower than the costs of childcare ($750-$1k/mo at a public daycare on average, or $2.5k/mo for private nanny on average). So taking taxes into consideration she should make like $50k+ just to break even with a nanny, and maybe $100k+ for it to add enough value to the family.
Why even have kids when 80% of the time they are being raised by daycare, public schools and TikTok. At that point they aren't even your kids anymore and you're not controlling anything they are being exposed to and being taught.
Women are hypergamous by nature, this is a fact. They are better suited in general to raise children and play a supportive role because biologically this is how they are made. Society forces them into many roles which are unnatural and mismatched for them so I wonder what is the archaic idea here. Society forces "equality" when biologically this is an impossibility. And now you get all these problems because of people being put into and convinced to doing things not natural to them. Now it is understandable that families need a dual income nowadays by necessity but as a man it should be your goal to achieve financial stability. What good is this so called financial stability if they are just being raised by the public and becoming pure NPC bots, being infected by woke, liberal, feminist, lgbt ideologies and the parents are too busy working to truly educate and guide them. Is it worth having a 3000 sq home only possible with your wife working or moving to a cheaper cost of living area, downsizing a bit but being able to have the flexibility for her to only work part-time to stay at home full time. If a man is making more than enough money to support everybody, it makes no sense for the wife to work unless you want a bunch of NPCs or you just don't want kids at all. Alot of that additional money is basically just feeding a capitalist/consumer-ist lifestyle let's be honest.
You wonder why society and households specifically are going to complete chite. movement in a direction doesn't necessarily mean progression.
just lol @ marrying women for the money they bring
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tf. These men out here got all kinds of issuesMy friends husband calls her mom srs
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
This is very true. And while my wife makes 6 figures, I would prefer that she not work.If you need your woman to make money so your kids have a good life, then that says more about you than anybody else. There's more to life than consumerism and keeping up with the joneses.
And yeah, the closer she is to your income and especially if she earns more, the highest the chances of divorce are. Thats the #1 predictor of divorce, wife getting a raise and outearning/equaling the husband, triggering her natural "i want a man that has more than me" mentality. This isnt just redpill/blackpill bull****, this is statistically proven to be right.
By all means, you do you guys. Go be a goldigging man lol (crazy to think 15 years ago we shamed women for having that mentality, now its men that think like that). At the end of the day, when serching for a woman to be the mother of your kids and your life companion, if the money she makes is on your list of priorities, you probably should stay single. There are 10+ much more important traits to look for in a woman.
And yeah, the closer she is to your income and especially if she earns more, the highest the chances of divorce are. Thats the #1 predictor of divorce, wife getting a raise and outearning/equaling the husband, triggering her natural "i want a man that has more than me" mentality. This isnt just redpill/blackpill bull****, this is statistically proven to be right.
By all means, you do you guys. Go be a goldigging man lol (crazy to think 15 years ago we shamed women for having that mentality, now its men that think like that). At the end of the day, when serching for a woman to be the mother of your kids and your life companion, if the money she makes is on your list of priorities, you probably should stay single. There are 10+ much more important traits to look for in a woman.
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No but the majority of women only date up (This is biological)
o. you better be making just as much as her if not more.
o. you better be making just as much as her if not more.
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Originally Posted By blueberryboy⏩
ThisI don't really give a single fk what a women earns along as they aren't flat broke
And not asking me for $ lol
And not asking me for $ lol
I ain’t tryna date some demanding sloot, but idgaf what she earns really. I can take care of myself
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Originally Posted By iloveus⏩
I wouldn’t even want a high earning woman. What is so attractive about that chit?No but the majority of women only date up (This is biological)
o. you better be making just as much as her if not more.
o. you better be making just as much as her if not more.
Imagine a woman that stays at home, grows her own food and cooks you unprocessed meals everyday , takes care of your 5 children and takes them out to play and raises them properly (not let them get addicted to iPad and tiktok videos), has skills and enroles your kids in activities which she can help your children with and she is highly family oriented. I could go on
But nah, a 6 figure woman is better than that, lmao
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
Just saying my current mentality is Traditional Foreigners > Western Wokers for marriage purposes. However the glaring downside to a non-citizen relationship is she might just use you for your money and green card. But if she has a solid income then this alleviates that concern at least.I really dont get your post, seems like you are now agreeing with me, but hard to tell. Nobody said anything about marrying a poor chick from the philipines lol.
I agree with your initial reply to mine, but I'm personally at a point where my income could cover myself, a wife, and dependents. Things might be tight if there were too many kids though. But all that to say, if you want to be generous with your family, and generous with her family, it's in your best interest for the wife to make more to better afford being able to do so. Unless you're like a $300k+/yr VP/lawyer/surgeon or something, it might be hard to stand ground as the beacon successful family that helps out the other relatives with financial strife.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
I wonder what this looks like by profession. Some jobs naturally attract more clout chasing women. Lawyers, consultants, business execs in finance, marketing, etc. are women that pick those careers solely because of money and status. So they are going to be much more sensitive to the career of their man and the perception it brings, and are likely the ones who are more into designer cars, fashion, vacations, etc.If you need your woman to make money so your kids have a good life, then that says more about you than anybody else. There's more to life than consumerism and keeping up with the joneses.
And yeah, the closer she is to your income and especially if she earns more, the highest the chances of divorce are. Thats the #1 predictor of divorce, wife getting a raise and outearning/equaling the husband, triggering her natural "i want a man that has more than me" mentality. This isnt just redpill/blackpill bull****, this is statistically proven to be right.
By all means, you do you guys. Go be a goldigging man lol (crazy to think 15 years ago we shamed women for having that mentality, now its men that think like that). At the end of the day, when serching for a woman to be the mother of your kids and your life companion, if the money she makes is on your list of priorities, you probably should stay single. There are 10+ much more important traits to look for in a woman.
And yeah, the closer she is to your income and especially if she earns more, the highest the chances of divorce are. Thats the #1 predictor of divorce, wife getting a raise and outearning/equaling the husband, triggering her natural "i want a man that has more than me" mentality. This isnt just redpill/blackpill bull****, this is statistically proven to be right.
By all means, you do you guys. Go be a goldigging man lol (crazy to think 15 years ago we shamed women for having that mentality, now its men that think like that). At the end of the day, when serching for a woman to be the mother of your kids and your life companion, if the money she makes is on your list of priorities, you probably should stay single. There are 10+ much more important traits to look for in a woman.
STEM women can also make a lot of money (engineers, tech, doctors, etc.) but usually dont persue those careers out of status or solely $$$. Typically, they are more masculine a bit as well with gender roles, so care less about the guy being the bread winner. Though do agree there will always be that biology at some level.
When I was dating women I cared far less about how much a woman made and far more about how much she spent and her views on consumerism. If your woman is a spender, then whether you both make 100k or 500k she will find a way to burn through it. If she is a natural saver and doesnt care about keeping up with the joneses then she could be a teacher for all I care. Definitely needs a legit career and not something dumb like retail , barista, bartender, etc.
All this to say is I ended up married to a doctor in a specialty (lol) who makes literally multiples of my income. I make solid money myself (~150k) and am definitely more financially savvy than her so handle all finances, and havent had an issue with losing respect or anything. Though wouldnt lie if it isnt a concern that is in my mind from time to time (that I never voice for sure). But MOST doctors are in these situations and its pretty common when the doctor is a woman to earn more than their guy, and tbh havent seen any divorces from our peers.
Sure you can point to the higher likelihood of divorce and I wont go against data. But if your choices are lower risk of divorce with you as the bread winner but when it happens you get financially ethered, or higher risk of divorce but when it happens you are ok or get a payday, then tbh seems like both sides of that coin are set up for a raw deal. I grew up in a divorced family where my dad got financially castrated and vowed to never let that happen to me. If my tour is ever over it's good to know that I can land on my feet.
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Originally Posted By Visel⏩
Marriage is hard enough, dont need to bring the stress of helping her own family and multiple kids as well. If you cant afford 4 kids, just have 2 and have her stay at home.Just saying my current mentality is Traditional Foreigners > Western Wokers for marriage purposes. However the glaring downside to a non-citizen relationship is she might just use you for your money and green card. But if she has a solid income then this alleviates that concern at least.
I agree with your initial reply to mine, but I'm personally at a point where my income could cover myself, a wife, and dependents. Things might be tight if there were too many kids though. But all that to say, if you want to be generous with your family, and generous with her family, it's in your best interest for the wife to make more to better afford being able to do so. Unless you're like a $300k+/yr VP/lawyer/surgeon or something, it might be hard to stand ground as the beacon successful family that helps out the other relatives with financial strife.
I agree with your initial reply to mine, but I'm personally at a point where my income could cover myself, a wife, and dependents. Things might be tight if there were too many kids though. But all that to say, if you want to be generous with your family, and generous with her family, it's in your best interest for the wife to make more to better afford being able to do so. Unless you're like a $300k+/yr VP/lawyer/surgeon or something, it might be hard to stand ground as the beacon successful family that helps out the other relatives with financial strife.
Originally Posted By meanstringbean⏩
Yeah, my point is that the money a woman makes should only be a secondary factor. Not a "must", or something you seek for as a priority, such as OP or others that have the mentality that their woman MUST help with a big % of the financial load.I wonder what this looks like by profession. Some jobs naturally attract more clout chasing women. Lawyers, consultants, business execs in finance, marketing, etc. are women that pick those careers solely because of money and status. So they are going to be much more sensitive to the career of their man and the perception it brings, and are likely the ones who are more into designer cars, fashion, vacations, etc.
STEM women can also make a lot of money (engineers, tech, doctors, etc.) but usually dont persue those careers out of status or solely $$$. Typically, they are more masculine a bit as well with gender roles, so care less about the guy being the bread winner. Though do agree there will always be that biology at some level.
When I was dating women I cared far less about how much a woman made and far more about how much she spent and her views on consumerism. If your woman is a spender, then whether you both make 100k or 500k she will find a way to burn through it. If she is a natural saver and doesnt care about keeping up with the joneses then she could be a teacher for all I care. Definitely needs a legit career and not something dumb like retail , barista, bartender, etc.
All this to say is I ended up married to a doctor in a specialty (lol) who makes literally multiples of my income. I make solid money myself (~150k) and am definitely more financially savvy than her so handle all finances, and havent had an issue with losing respect or anything. Though wouldnt lie if it isnt a concern that is in my mind from time to time (that I never voice for sure). But MOST doctors are in these situations and its pretty common when the doctor is a woman to earn more than their guy, and tbh havent seen any divorces from our peers.
Sure you can point to the higher likelihood of divorce and I wont go against data. But if your choices are lower risk of divorce with you as the bread winner but when it happens you get financially ethered, or higher risk of divorce but when it happens you are ok or get a payday, then tbh seems like both sides of that coin are set up for a raw deal. I grew up in a divorced family where my dad got financially castrated and vowed to never let that happen to me. If my tour is ever over it's good to know that I can land on my feet.
STEM women can also make a lot of money (engineers, tech, doctors, etc.) but usually dont persue those careers out of status or solely $$$. Typically, they are more masculine a bit as well with gender roles, so care less about the guy being the bread winner. Though do agree there will always be that biology at some level.
When I was dating women I cared far less about how much a woman made and far more about how much she spent and her views on consumerism. If your woman is a spender, then whether you both make 100k or 500k she will find a way to burn through it. If she is a natural saver and doesnt care about keeping up with the joneses then she could be a teacher for all I care. Definitely needs a legit career and not something dumb like retail , barista, bartender, etc.
All this to say is I ended up married to a doctor in a specialty (lol) who makes literally multiples of my income. I make solid money myself (~150k) and am definitely more financially savvy than her so handle all finances, and havent had an issue with losing respect or anything. Though wouldnt lie if it isnt a concern that is in my mind from time to time (that I never voice for sure). But MOST doctors are in these situations and its pretty common when the doctor is a woman to earn more than their guy, and tbh havent seen any divorces from our peers.
Sure you can point to the higher likelihood of divorce and I wont go against data. But if your choices are lower risk of divorce with you as the bread winner but when it happens you get financially ethered, or higher risk of divorce but when it happens you are ok or get a payday, then tbh seems like both sides of that coin are set up for a raw deal. I grew up in a divorced family where my dad got financially castrated and vowed to never let that happen to me. If my tour is ever over it's good to know that I can land on my feet.
If you meet a wholesome woman with excellent traits for marriage, and she happens to make good money, by all means do it. That brings other issues such as childcare, home care, etc, but at the end of the day, as long as shes a good woman, then thats what matters the most. Still a good woman can be hypergamous, but still, is a risk that everyone should gauge for themselves.
The problem is people that would disregard a wholesome woman with great wife traits, just because she doesnt make good money, and would rather be with a woman that makes good money that doesnt have close to those wifely traits. IMO you should look for a wife first, not a roomie to help out with the bills. If you strike the lottery like you seem to have (for now) and shes both a great wife and a great earner, well good for you, but that is extremely rare.
Personally, id rather have a woman that stays at home, brings zero dollars to he household, but is an amazing wife, takes cares of the kids, of me, of the house, etc, things that are basically a fulltime job as well. Then live the lifestyle that whatever my current income allows us to live. If i can afford a luxurious life, great, if i can only afford a decent life, thats good too. If i cant even afford a decent life and we are struggling, then i shouldnt get married or have a kid in the first place. Thats how i see it anyway.
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Originally Posted By meanstringbean⏩
i think it's a bit different if you earn 150K and she's earning maybe 500K. Then say it was somebody who earns 50K and the wife earns 150K. Because with 150K you don't need her income to support yourself, she could quit her job if she wanted to and she knows she would be still be in good hands and provided forwith you bringing in all the money. You both are basically high-value earners at the top of the chain so at a certain point it doesn't matter that much. The problem comes more from where the wife feels like she needs to work, where she feels that most of the pressure is on her to earn, where she needs to contribute to most of the bills. She subconsciously feels that why isn't the husband able to do that? That why is the pressure on me? Why is he depending on me to live? He's supposed to be the provider and the leader.I wonder what this looks like by profession. Some jobs naturally attract more clout chasing women. Lawyers, consultants, business execs in finance, marketing, etc. are women that pick those careers solely because of money and status. So they are going to be much more sensitive to the career of their man and the perception it brings, and are likely the ones who are more into designer cars, fashion, vacations, etc.
STEM women can also make a lot of money (engineers, tech, doctors, etc.) but usually dont persue those careers out of status or solely $$$. Typically, they are more masculine a bit as well with gender roles, so care less about the guy being the bread winner. Though do agree there will always be that biology at some level.
When I was dating women I cared far less about how much a woman made and far more about how much she spent and her views on consumerism. If your woman is a spender, then whether you both make 100k or 500k she will find a way to burn through it. If she is a natural saver and doesnt care about keeping up with the joneses then she could be a teacher for all I care. Definitely needs a legit career and not something dumb like retail , barista, bartender, etc.
All this to say is I ended up married to a doctor in a specialty (lol) who makes literally multiples of my income. I make solid money myself (~150k) and am definitely more financially savvy than her so handle all finances, and havent had an issue with losing respect or anything. Though wouldnt lie if it isnt a concern that is in my mind from time to time (that I never voice for sure). But MOST doctors are in these situations and its pretty common when the doctor is a woman to earn more than their guy, and tbh havent seen any divorces from our peers.
Sure you can point to the higher likelihood of divorce and I wont go against data. But if your choices are lower risk of divorce with you as the bread winner but when it happens you get financially ethered, or higher risk of divorce but when it happens you are ok or get a payday, then tbh seems like both sides of that coin are set up for a raw deal. I grew up in a divorced family where my dad got financially castrated and vowed to never let that happen to me. If my tour is ever over it's good to know that I can land on my feet.
STEM women can also make a lot of money (engineers, tech, doctors, etc.) but usually dont persue those careers out of status or solely $$$. Typically, they are more masculine a bit as well with gender roles, so care less about the guy being the bread winner. Though do agree there will always be that biology at some level.
When I was dating women I cared far less about how much a woman made and far more about how much she spent and her views on consumerism. If your woman is a spender, then whether you both make 100k or 500k she will find a way to burn through it. If she is a natural saver and doesnt care about keeping up with the joneses then she could be a teacher for all I care. Definitely needs a legit career and not something dumb like retail , barista, bartender, etc.
All this to say is I ended up married to a doctor in a specialty (lol) who makes literally multiples of my income. I make solid money myself (~150k) and am definitely more financially savvy than her so handle all finances, and havent had an issue with losing respect or anything. Though wouldnt lie if it isnt a concern that is in my mind from time to time (that I never voice for sure). But MOST doctors are in these situations and its pretty common when the doctor is a woman to earn more than their guy, and tbh havent seen any divorces from our peers.
Sure you can point to the higher likelihood of divorce and I wont go against data. But if your choices are lower risk of divorce with you as the bread winner but when it happens you get financially ethered, or higher risk of divorce but when it happens you are ok or get a payday, then tbh seems like both sides of that coin are set up for a raw deal. I grew up in a divorced family where my dad got financially castrated and vowed to never let that happen to me. If my tour is ever over it's good to know that I can land on my feet.
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07-14-2023, 11:22 AM
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Women making 100k/yr are gonna be old/fat/ugly.
I'd rather cream pie a broke ass hot 18-22yo myself. Her finances are irrelevant because I'm never going to depend on her for anything but making my penis throw up.
I'd rather cream pie a broke ass hot 18-22yo myself. Her finances are irrelevant because I'm never going to depend on her for anything but making my penis throw up.
07-14-2023, 11:24 AM
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i just wanna make 500k-$1m/year and have her make $100k+ and consooom with no kids (maybe down the road when im sick of travelling/working out/growing the business, doubt it) but take care of my parents.
agree with the above idea of her $ just being extra. I want to make enough to cover everything myself, and then have her bring additional "fun money"
agree with the above idea of her $ just being extra. I want to make enough to cover everything myself, and then have her bring additional "fun money"
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07-14-2023, 11:27 AM
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Agree Ken to look for those wife traits
I will also say , and this is just based on personal experience, that the man being the big earner and the woman being stay at home mom does not automatically equal respect. I grew up in the south so that’s a very common arrangement, and so many of these wives were bitches that had their man on a leash despite him providing everything. They dictated what he could spend money on, when he could see friends, where they went on trips, etc. again, small sample size of just personal experiences but imo you need to also bring value outside of your paycheck
There is truth to the “beta bux” thing IF the only trait you have going for you is bringing in $$$. But if you are assertive in other ways, good personality, interesting, fit, etc then that will go even further to gaining and maintaining respect.
Basically, be more than your paycheck. That’s been my approach anyways lol
I will also say , and this is just based on personal experience, that the man being the big earner and the woman being stay at home mom does not automatically equal respect. I grew up in the south so that’s a very common arrangement, and so many of these wives were bitches that had their man on a leash despite him providing everything. They dictated what he could spend money on, when he could see friends, where they went on trips, etc. again, small sample size of just personal experiences but imo you need to also bring value outside of your paycheck
There is truth to the “beta bux” thing IF the only trait you have going for you is bringing in $$$. But if you are assertive in other ways, good personality, interesting, fit, etc then that will go even further to gaining and maintaining respect.
Basically, be more than your paycheck. That’s been my approach anyways lol
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