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Ukrainian woman refugee divorces her husband who was forced to join army
07-26-2023, 06:21 PM
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Ukrainian woman refugee divorces her husband who was forced to join army
Andrii Shapovalov, 51, and Tetiana Shapovalova, 50, had a fantastic life together. They were married nearly 30 years, raised two sons and pursued careers that meant something to them — he as a psychotherapist working with drug addicts, she as an executive at a large ice cream company.
They separated that first day, as missiles slammed into Dnipro and shook their windows. Tetiana set off on a refugee odyssey. Andrii drifted through the empty rooms of their family home.
They would go on, like so many Ukrainian men and women, to experience the war very differently. Tetiana was thrust into a whole new world, discovering a new country, a new language and, in a shock to Andrii, a new boyfriend. Andrii found himself on the front lines counseling depressed soldiers and, for the first time since he was a teenager, living alone. He was effectively blocked by law from visiting his family.
Ninety percent of the eight million Ukrainian refugees have been women and children, and many women, married or not, do not plan to go back. They are moving on and developing new, entrenched lives.
Andrii: Those first few weeks were really hard. After all those years, waking up alone, in a cold bed, with nobody waiting for you? And it wasn’t just the distance. It was this absence of belief in tomorrow. I didn’t know if the Russian troops would come for us or not. I didn’t know if I’d be alive or not. But not a night passed when I didn’t dream about her.
A few weeks into her life as a refugee, Tetiana met a Finnish man. She said it was very difficult to bring this up with Andrii. She called him on the phone and said: “I don’t want to continue our relationship. I want a new place, a new relationship, a new everything. I want a new life.”
Andrii: I was driving a car at that moment. I felt like I was covered in boiling water. I couldn’t move. I couldn’t breathe. I pulled over. Even after we got off the phone, I was trembling. I thought I was going crazy. I blamed the war, the Russians, our government, everyone around me.
I was surprised, yes, absolutely. I refused to believe it. I thought it was some flirtation and that it would end. But one night at the end of May, I called and texted her all day and she didn’t return my calls. I was awake all night. And then I understood: She’s with another man.
Tetiana: Since last August I’ve been living with someone else. My life’s flourishing. I’m not missing a thing. Maybe it’s trauma, maybe it’s not logical, but I really don’t want to come back to Ukraine and see all the changes. I don’t know why, but I’m not crying at all. Maybe later it will burn through me.
Andrii and Tetiana finalized their divorce in December. They haven’t seen each other since the first day of the war. Tetiana is studying Finnish and preparing to become a Finnish citizen. Andrii lives alone.
He spends much of his time working with soldiers struggling with drug and drinking problems, which he says have increased since the war started.
The other day, he took Tori, their newish dog, an intensely loyal Shar Pei, for a walk in a Dnipro park. Looking down at Tori, who was constantly looking up at him, he half-joked: “This is all that’s left of my family.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/25/w...r-divorce.html

They separated that first day, as missiles slammed into Dnipro and shook their windows. Tetiana set off on a refugee odyssey. Andrii drifted through the empty rooms of their family home.
They would go on, like so many Ukrainian men and women, to experience the war very differently. Tetiana was thrust into a whole new world, discovering a new country, a new language and, in a shock to Andrii, a new boyfriend. Andrii found himself on the front lines counseling depressed soldiers and, for the first time since he was a teenager, living alone. He was effectively blocked by law from visiting his family.
Ninety percent of the eight million Ukrainian refugees have been women and children, and many women, married or not, do not plan to go back. They are moving on and developing new, entrenched lives.
Andrii: Those first few weeks were really hard. After all those years, waking up alone, in a cold bed, with nobody waiting for you? And it wasn’t just the distance. It was this absence of belief in tomorrow. I didn’t know if the Russian troops would come for us or not. I didn’t know if I’d be alive or not. But not a night passed when I didn’t dream about her.
A few weeks into her life as a refugee, Tetiana met a Finnish man. She said it was very difficult to bring this up with Andrii. She called him on the phone and said: “I don’t want to continue our relationship. I want a new place, a new relationship, a new everything. I want a new life.”
Andrii: I was driving a car at that moment. I felt like I was covered in boiling water. I couldn’t move. I couldn’t breathe. I pulled over. Even after we got off the phone, I was trembling. I thought I was going crazy. I blamed the war, the Russians, our government, everyone around me.
I was surprised, yes, absolutely. I refused to believe it. I thought it was some flirtation and that it would end. But one night at the end of May, I called and texted her all day and she didn’t return my calls. I was awake all night. And then I understood: She’s with another man.
Tetiana: Since last August I’ve been living with someone else. My life’s flourishing. I’m not missing a thing. Maybe it’s trauma, maybe it’s not logical, but I really don’t want to come back to Ukraine and see all the changes. I don’t know why, but I’m not crying at all. Maybe later it will burn through me.
Andrii and Tetiana finalized their divorce in December. They haven’t seen each other since the first day of the war. Tetiana is studying Finnish and preparing to become a Finnish citizen. Andrii lives alone.
He spends much of his time working with soldiers struggling with drug and drinking problems, which he says have increased since the war started.
The other day, he took Tori, their newish dog, an intensely loyal Shar Pei, for a walk in a Dnipro park. Looking down at Tori, who was constantly looking up at him, he half-joked: “This is all that’s left of my family.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/25/w...r-divorce.html

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Originally Posted By LoginCell⏩
ThisSloots gonna sloot even more during wartime brah
Sloots only care about being comfortable, and don’t want to face hardships. They’ll dump you with no remorse whatsoever if a better option comes up
Back with my Fam
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Originally Posted By LoginCell⏩
This.Sloots gonna sloot even more during wartime brah
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Remember. The situation is how it is because of men, weak men. If women were conscripted the same as men, none of of what was mentioned in the OP would have happened. Why are women not drafted? Because of weak white knights.
When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
Actually I think the real "alpha" move would have been to not allow millions of women to leave the country, let them go to some safe place in eastern Ukraine. Every human rights organization in the world would be against it though.Remember. The situation is how it is because of men, weak men. If women were conscripted the same as men, none of of what was mentioned in the OP would have happened. Why are women not drafted? Because of weak white knights.
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Ignorant miscers will say it has something to do with modernity, but it’s always been that way. In WW2 French bishes were getting railed by the same Nazi officers who beat the fuk out of their husbands
This shouldn’t even bother you. You should understand the natural order and understand that women are temporary companions who you keep around to serve you. They see you that way too.
This shouldn’t even bother you. You should understand the natural order and understand that women are temporary companions who you keep around to serve you. They see you that way too.
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Strong af sloots gon sloot
Genuine psychopathy
But I’m sure the Jewish leaders of Ukraine appreciate his sacrifice
Genuine psychopathy
But I’m sure the Jewish leaders of Ukraine appreciate his sacrifice
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its over for ukraine
what are they gonna do even if they win
their country will have barely any women left
all their distraught battle hardened lonely men with high tech military equipment
poor little poland
what are they gonna do even if they win
their country will have barely any women left
all their distraught battle hardened lonely men with high tech military equipment
poor little poland
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07-26-2023, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted By aherpderp⏩
Even worse. The government announced they plan to bring in 4.5 million migrant workers after the war. And we know it's gonna be mostly men from Africa and the Middle East lmao.its over for ukraine
what are they gonna do even if they win
their country will have barely any women left
all their distraught battle hardened lonely men with high tech military equipment
poor little poland
what are they gonna do even if they win
their country will have barely any women left
all their distraught battle hardened lonely men with high tech military equipment
poor little poland
https://kyivindependent.com/ministry...ds-additional/
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Originally Posted By dusky99⏩
lmao are they trying to create a failed stateEven worse. The government announced they plan to bring in 4.5 million migrant workers after the war. And we know it's gonna be mostly men from Africa and the Middle East lmao.
https://kyivindependent.com/ministry...ds-additional/
https://kyivindependent.com/ministry...ds-additional/
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Originally Posted By dusky99⏩
Russia needs to take over the whole country. That is the only thing that will save them.Even worse. The government announced they plan to bring in 4.5 million migrant workers after the war. And we know it's gonna be mostly men from Africa and the Middle East lmao.
https://kyivindependent.com/ministry...ds-additional/
https://kyivindependent.com/ministry...ds-additional/
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**** like this is why men lay down their arms and surrender in war
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She knows he's gonna die. That war is brutal
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Wait a minute
-married 30 years
-raised two sons
-ditches family immediately to go slooting
Their sons are probably dead already if they were in the country…
-married 30 years
-raised two sons
-ditches family immediately to go slooting
Their sons are probably dead already if they were in the country…
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Originally Posted By RagnarChadbrok⏩
Yep, spoils of war... There was a mad rush after ww2 to ransack Germany and German women.Ignorant miscers will say it has something to do with modernity, but it’s always been that way. In WW2 French bishes were getting railed by the same Nazi officers who beat the fuk out of their husbands
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War is fooked.
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Originally Posted By RagnarChadbrok⏩
Think about how many women throughout human history have been faced with the decision to either A. Die or B. IMMEDIATELY get wet and submit to the guy who just turned her baby daddy into ground beef.Ignorant miscers will say it has something to do with modernity, but it’s always been that way. In WW2 French bishes were getting railed by the same Nazi officers who beat the fuk out of their husbands
This shouldn’t even bother you. You should understand the natural order and understand that women are temporary companions who you keep around to serve you. They see you that way too.
This shouldn’t even bother you. You should understand the natural order and understand that women are temporary companions who you keep around to serve you. They see you that way too.
When people say that loyalty isn't a female trait, it's an understatement because women have every reason in the world to be disloyal. There isn't even an internal conflict.
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Watching Ukraine destroy itself to try and join a club that never had any intention of letting it join is a bit amusing. Probably not so amusing for the guy who had to figure out sloots gonna sloot the hard way.
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