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post 1688035633 08-09-2023, 02:30 AM
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Starting MMA and self defense routine and workout this month

How long would it take me to get to a decent level skill ?

- I willing to give 5 hours max/week
- Will also train in gym everyday
- Will also train for mobility and cardio
- I want shotgun kicks like Joe Rogan *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWC6x4Qqwe4*

Any miscer with experience or novice have any tips ?
post 1688038633 08-09-2023, 04:50 AM
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You will progress at 5 hours a week but very slowly. Maybe this is a good starting point for you, but ideally you should be putting in at LEAST 10 hrs per week
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post 1688039183 08-09-2023, 05:14 AM
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I don't train MMA, but I do train BJJ.

Training 5 hours of MMA a week is actually great. If you are only training for self defense, then this will definitely help you. After 6 months you will feel powerful compared to others (although still the newbie at the gym). After a year, you will have accumulated a solid base of self-defense against the untrained normie. But keep in mind, even after a year of training, you'll still most likely be the newb of the gym (unless new guys have shown up).

If you want to compete and make this a career, then I'd agree with the first guy. 10 hours a week min.

Not sure how frequently an MMA gym covers kicks like Rogan does, but if they do not, check out Muay Thai for deadly kicks training.
post 1688039623 08-09-2023, 05:38 AM
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The rogan sidekick can be achieved in a couple of months by someone with freak talent, good flexibility, muscle twitch etc. but some people will never achieve anything close to that. So, the rate of your progress depends on your genetics basically, as well as where that progress ultimately takes you.

As an example, I had an extremely good ax kick as well as front kick always, even before any kind of training, it’s simply because when I was young I was very flexible and athletic, but when it comes to back or Sidekick, I am horrible, and honestly, I don’t think any amount of training would make those kicks even decent for me, It’s just a height and bone structure.

In another example I have seen one former retired amateur MMA fighter dominate the UFC pro in training and the amateur could not do any kicks at all, because he was 400 pounds lol
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Originally Posted By Brommando⏩
How long would it take me to get to a decent level skill ?

- I willing to give 5 hours max/week
- Will also train in gym everyday
- Will also train for mobility and cardio
- I want shotgun kicks like Joe Rogan *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWC6x4Qqwe4*

Any miscer with experience or novice have any tips ?
You don’t want to do that bro. With Starfield around the corner and hitting GamePass day 1 you won't have time to train. By the time you're done with Starfield, Forza motorsport will hit along with the entire ABK catalogue...
post 1688040113 08-09-2023, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted By doomerBuild⏩
I don't train MMA, but I do train BJJ.

Training 5 hours of MMA a week is actually great. If you are only training for self defense, then this will definitely help you. After 6 months you will feel powerful compared to others (although still the newbie at the gym). After a year, you will have accumulated a solid base of self-defense against the untrained normie. But keep in mind, even after a year of training, you'll still most likely be the newb of the gym (unless new guys have shown up).

If you want to compete and make this a career, then I'd agree with the first guy. 10 hours a week min.

Not sure how frequently an MMA gym covers kicks like Rogan does, but if they do not, check out Muay Thai for deadly kicks training.
Agree on your points if you are training in one specific style. But OP is doing MMA, so will need to spend extra time working all skill sets to be an effective fighter(Grappling, Takedowns, Striking/kicking, Defense). Of course, if he is just doing it for fun it doesn't really matter.
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post 1688095143 08-10-2023, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted By byzantine75⏩
You will progress at 5 hours a week but very slowly. Maybe this is a good starting point for you, but ideally you should be putting in at LEAST 10 hrs per week
I can only do strength training in those extra 5 hours , because I am also going to the gym everyday .
post 1688095193 08-10-2023, 12:34 AM
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MMA is a mixed abomination.


Boxing is pure.


Watch Hajime No Ippo for 10/10 boxing anime.






Real men don't kick.

Real men don't suck each other off on the ground.
post 1688095213 08-10-2023, 12:36 AM
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Look at how the white Jake Paul defeats all these MMA mixed abominations.





mma taking loses left and right
post 1688095853 08-10-2023, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted By Brommando⏩
I can only do strength training in those extra 5 hours , because I am also going to the gym everyday .
If your main goal is to have powerful kicks, maybe just focus on Muay Thai or Kyokushin Karate. Or if you can find a club that practices full contact, Tae Kwon Do. (I wouldn't usually recommend TKD, but they have the most kick driven syllabus and Rogan used to do it)
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post 1688104003 08-10-2023, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted By byzantine75⏩
Agree on your points if you are training in one specific style. But OP is doing MMA, so will need to spend extra time working all skill sets to be an effective fighter(Grappling, Takedowns, Striking/kicking, Defense). Of course, if he is just doing it for fun it doesn't really matter.
Hey , I am not doing it for fun . I really want to be able to defend myself .
I haven't started training with an instructor , i have only browsed for a few routines on the web also I don't even know what art to pick up . People say Systema is the best or Jiu Jitsu is best for self defense , so I have to do homework first
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Originally Posted By PowerWhite⏩
Look at how the white Jake Paul defeats all these MMA mixed abominations.





mma taking loses left and right
You are right , I have always been amazed at the hitting power of boxers . I love it but have never thought people use it for self defense
post 1688106123 08-10-2023, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted By Brommando⏩
Hey , I am not doing it for fun . I really want to be able to defend myself .
I haven't started training with an instructor , i have only browsed for a few routines on the web also I don't even know what art to pick up . People say Systema is the best or Jiu Jitsu is best for self defense , so I have to do homework first
Somebody actually told you systema was the best? JFC hahaha
Do yourself a favor and pick up a martial art that actually pressure tests the techniques and trains full contact. If you can find a Systema club that does that well and good, but I am willing to bet my left ball you wont.
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Originally Posted By Brommando⏩
You are right , I have always been amazed at the hitting power of boxers . I love it but have never thought people use it for self defense
I saw a video of this guy being cornered by 5 men in a store. The guy was backed up against the door. The guy in front of him pulled out a knife but the guy backed into the door KO'd him in 1 punch using a left hook. Then the guy ran out the door. The other 4 guys just stood there looking stunned by what just happened.
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Originally Posted By PowerWhite⏩
Look at how the white Jake Paul defeats all these MMA mixed abominations.





mma taking loses left and right
fuking troll or fuking idiot...one or the other

boxing has very limiting rules that do not simulate a real fight...no going to the ground. no grappling. no submissions. no throws. no takedowns. no kicking. the list goes on. If Nat and Jake were in a fight on the street or in the UFC, Jake wouldn't last 1 round. I'd put money on Jake not even lasting 1 minute.
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its all about genetics, either you can fight and know how to wrestle and strike or you don't, and if you do then you can improve your speed, power, technique and cardio to be better

just look at brad, dude is "athletic" and fit and trained for how long and still was pure trash, threw punches like a girl and couldn't get his legs to work after getting hit once

most people just aren't cut out to fight, they can train and train and train but if you just don't have the natural ability and heart to fight then its over for you when faced with any sort of violence
money, cars, clothes and hoes is all a miscer knows
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i still dont understand what you want to do .


do you want to compete on an amature or professional level?
how old are you ?
how much do you weigh?
how tall are you ?
you body type?
any prior sports experience?
hows your cardio? you ever ran before ? if yes , distance ran per week and how many times?
what do you do for work?
whats your financial status like?
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
i still dont understand what you want to do .


do you want to compete on an amature or professional level?
how old are you ?
how much do you weigh?
how tall are you ?
you body type?
any prior sports experience?
hows your cardio? you ever ran before ? if yes , distance ran per week and how many times?
what do you do for work?
whats your financial status like?
No one is giving you their bank account and SSN
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Assuming you're decently athletic, coordinated etc at six months or so you'll be able to handle most people out IRL.

Obviously you can't stop there because you start getting rusty.
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Originally Posted By doomerBuild⏩
fuking troll or fuking idiot...one or the other

boxing has very limiting rules that do not simulate a real fight...no going to the ground. no grappling. no submissions. no throws. no takedowns. no kicking. the list goes on. If Nat and Jake were in a fight on the street or in the UFC, Jake wouldn't last 1 round. I'd put money on Jake not even lasting 1 minute.
The white Jake Paul was a high school wrestler.

I'd bet on the white Jake Paul.


The white Jake Paul.

Pure just like boxing.
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Originally Posted By doomerBuild⏩
fuking troll or fuking idiot...one or the other

boxing has very limiting rules that do not simulate a real fight...no going to the ground. no grappling. no submissions. no throws. no takedowns. no kicking. the list goes on. If Nat and Jake were in a fight on the street or in the UFC, Jake wouldn't last 1 round. I'd put money on Jake not even lasting 1 minute.
Nate Diaz is a hillbilly redneck


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post 1688154113 08-11-2023, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
Assuming you're decently athletic, coordinated etc at six months or so you'll be able to handle most people out IRL.

Obviously you can't stop there because you start getting rusty.
Good athleticism , but have bf . Very well coordinated , I have 2 sports at a good level and I have no probs picking up a new sport . Good body frame , large shoulder etc

thanks
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
i still dont understand what you want to do .


do you want to compete on an amature or professional level?
how old are you ?
how much do you weigh?
how tall are you ?
you body type?
any prior sports experience?
hows your cardio? you ever ran before ? if yes , distance ran per week and how many times?
what do you do for work?
whats your financial status like?
Don't want to compete
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Originally Posted By Brommando⏩
Don't want to compete
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I am very good at cardio
Master's Student rn XD
alright , hows your financials and off days? what state/city you live in ?
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