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post 1688209063 08-11-2023, 11:15 PM
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FDA - go ahead and use Ivermectin for Covid

Doctors, in particular doctors in hospitals ($$$) won't have their careers threatened for doling out Ivermectin, the ultra safe medication, for Covid. Slack jaw fhaggots finally caved in after doctors sued the corrupt FDA. The gravy train is over.

"Doctors are free to prescribe ivermectin to treat COVID-19, a lawyer representing the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) said this week.

“FDA explicitly recognizes that doctors do have the authority to prescribe ivermectin to treat COVID,” Ashley Cheung Honold, a Department of Justice lawyer representing the FDA, said during oral arguments on Aug. 8 in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit."

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/f...ctin-bombshell
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Why are Liberals so dumb?

They literally parroted every narrative that Big Pharma wanted them to, without any objection.
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Russian disinformation!!!!!!!
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Does this invalidate the emergency use authorization for the vaccine, so they cannot use it until full trials?

Or still tee hee no lawz for vaccine safety?
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
Why are Liberals so dumb?

They literally parroted every narrative that Big Pharma wanted them to, without any objection.
Well, I’ve spoken to the companies and we can have it a lot sooner, I’ve spoken to Pfizer, I’ve spoken to all of the people that you have to speak to, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson, and others. They can go faster than that by a lot.
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It doesn't really do anything, might as well prescribe it.

Hopefully there's a non-pharma source.
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Katya posted this in the other thread on the topic and it deserves to be stated again:

Originally Posted By katya422⏩
The handling of this even was murder or at least manslaughter on a massive scale. It is difficult to imagine that the response could have been worse if your goal was to kill more people.

- using tests which were never meant to be tests and running them too many cycles [slowed results, more false positives]

- no tests unless you have specific symptoms

- half-assed quarantine measures for the entire populace vs. just the sick/vulnerable/areas with spiking cases

- people who did show up positive/sick being told to go home and come back if their lips turn blue due to low oxygen; no medication offered

- failure to administer anti-virals [ivermectin, HCQ]

- people dying due to by being needlessly placed on ventilators

- people dying because they were denied blood thinners

- people dying because they were denied antibiotics

- usage of a drug with a known history of high fatality [remdesivir]

- government propaganda and censorship employed to terrify and control











And up to the very present nearly zero recognition of any of the above in the major media.


The higher than previous death rate and unusual spikes in some cancers and diseases continues too.



The FDA should be torn down to the foundation...investigate who did what. Fire them all. Rehire the ones who can be shown to have acted with competence and in the interest of the public vs. those complicit in the ongoing corruption. Kill the CDC while we are at it. Time to start from scratch and do what we can to insure that those serving the public actually serve the public- bright line between industry and government.
Possibly the greatest crime we’ll see in our lifetime.
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Effect of Higher-Dose Ivermectin for 6 Days vs Placebo on Time to Sustained Recovery in Outpatients With COVID-19

"Findings
In this double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled platform trial including 1206 US adults with COVID-19 during February 2022 to July 2022, the median time to sustained recovery was 11 days in the ivermectin group and 11 days in the placebo group. In this largely vaccinated (84%) population, the posterior probability that ivermectin reduced symptom duration by more than 1 day was less than 0.1%.

Meaning These findings do not support the use of ivermectin among outpatients with COVID-19."

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2801827
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Originally Posted By Latinowarrior3⏩
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post 1688219683 08-12-2023, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Well, I’ve spoken to the companies and we can have it a lot sooner, I’ve spoken to Pfizer, I’ve spoken to all of the people that you have to speak to, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson, and others. They can go faster than that by a lot.
It's fascinating how many Trump vaccines that Liberals took vs how many Trump vaccines the Trump cult took.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
It doesn't really do anything, might as well prescribe it.

Hopefully there's a non-pharma source.
These people actually think this means Ivermectin works against covid... LOL

People like Rob are too fuking stupid to realize that this court case has nothing to do with whether Ivermectin works against covid, no it's about the doctors rights to prescribe it - and that the FDA had no authority to stop doctors from prescribing it. The "quote" in OP's false and misleading thread title simply acknowledges that technically they had the right..
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
It's fascinating how many Trump vaccines that Liberals took vs how many Trump vaccines the Trump cult took.
And it's super fascinating how many more anti-vaxxers died vs people who got vaccinated/followed the FDA's advice to not use Ivermectin since we're not horses and cows and all.. (inb4 a "genius" comes in and proudly claims Ivermectin is prescribed for humans...)
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
These people actually think this means Ivermectin works against covid... LOL

People like Rob are too fuking stupid to realize that this court case has nothing to do with whether Ivermectin works against covid, no it's about the doctors rights to prescribe it - and that the FDA had no authority to stop doctors from prescribing it. The "quote" in OP's false and misleading thread title simply acknowledges that technically they had the right..
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
It's fascinating how many Trump vaccines that Liberals took vs how many Trump vaccines the Trump cult took.
Also fascinating (kinda) that the same chit you call liberals stupid for is the same chit the guy you tell everyone to vote for did.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Effect of Higher-Dose Ivermectin for 6 Days vs Placebo on Time to Sustained Recovery in Outpatients With COVID-19

"Findings
In this double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled platform trial including 1206 US adults with COVID-19 during February 2022 to July 2022, the median time to sustained recovery was 11 days in the ivermectin group and 11 days in the placebo group. In this largely vaccinated (84%) population, the posterior probability that ivermectin reduced symptom duration by more than 1 day was less than 0.1%.

Meaning These findings do not support the use of ivermectin among outpatients with COVID-19."

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2801827
AFAIK, ivermectin is not meant as a standalone treatment for COVID.
Treatment
Treatment began as soon as practical, within 72 hrs. of patients presenting to Ventura Clinical Trials. All screened subjects met the inclusion criteria and were enrolled consecutively.Treatment was defined as ‘IVM Combination Therapy’ (ICT) and consisted of ten days of oral: Doxycycline (100mg twice a day), IVM (12mg on day 1, day 4, and day 8), Zinc (25mg twice a day), Vitamin D3 (1500 IU twice a day) and Vitamin C (1500mg twice a day)

There is currently a lack of effective treatments for early or ambulatory patients with COVID-19. Patients testing positive are sent home to isolate and generally, no specific line of treatment is prescribed in this phase of the illness. However, there is growing evidence that certain repurposed drugs with good safety profiles, taken early, can significantly improve outcomes and even avoid or delay the need for immune-modulators, antiplatelet / antithrombotic therapy, and the administration of oxygen [1].

Among the most extensively studied of such COVID-19 therapeutics is ivermectin (IVM), a drug that has been used safely in 3.7 billion doses worldwide since 1987 [2-4]. Recently, Dr. Satoshi Omura, the 2015 Nobel prize co-laureate for the discovery of IVM, and colleagues comprehensively reviewed studies to date on IVM activity against COVID-19, concluding that the preponderance of the evidence demonstrated such efficacy [2]. IVM has been tested in more than 20 randomized controlled trials (RCTs) for COVID-19 treatment, with statistically highly significant clinical benefits in almost all of these and a pooled mortality reduction of 78% for the treatment vs. control groups [5]. Five such studies for IVM treatment of COVID-19 recently published in top-tier medical journals have all shown multiple clinical benefits for IVM vs. controls, most of these with high statistical significance on the order of p < 0.002 [6-10]. IVM is well tolerated at much greater than the standard single dose of 200 μg/kg [11,12] and has been used in RCTs for COVID-19 treatment at cumulative doses of 1,500 μg/kg [13], 1,600 μg/kg [14], and 3,000 μg/kg [15] over 4 or 5 days either without or with mild and transient adverse effects. Not surprisingly, IVM has become extensively used in the prevention and early disease management of COVID-19, particularly in non-Western countries.

Despite this strong evidence of clinical benefit in COVID-19 for IVM therapy, variation in therapeutic regimens especially with respect to addition of a broad spectrum antibiotic and zinc, has led to confusion as to how best to manage acute infections. Indeed, the most impressive of the early ambulatory multi-drug therapy, claiming 87% and 75% reductions in hospitalization and deaths, respectively, both with a P value of 0.001, in 869 high risk subjects, left optimal management strategy unclear due to a mixed use of IVM and hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) [16]. There is an immediate need for an effective, safe, and practically available combination therapy formulated on the basis of the best available data.

At a cellular level, IVM modulates communication between the cytoplasm and nucleus, creating a hostile environment for assemblage of virus, while at the same time reducing cytokine-mediated inflammation. In addition, IVM inhibits pathology following infection with the COVID-19 virus, by specifically blocking binding of the virus “Spike” protein to the ACE2 receptor. Finally, IVM has been associated with favorable changes in cellular innate immunity [17].

Our group has been developing antiviral drug combinations for COVID-19 and found IVM to be particularly effective as a co-therapy for use early in COVID-19 to shorten the time to symptom resolution and to prevent hospitalization.IVM used alone can at times be only partially effective but not curative [6,1,19] yet a higher dose of IVM plus azithromycin and zinc has achieved a 92% mortality reduction vs. controls[14]. Thus, we chose a combination of safe and widely available medications, approved for other indications and without drug-drug interactions or QT prolongation that inhibits intracellular virus replication and possess some anti-inflammatory properties.

. ICT was given daily for ten days only.

100% survival rate was seen in patients, which is significantly higher (p = 0.044 via χ2 test) than synthetic control from CDC database of equivalent or less COVID-vulnerable subjects. Bottom, No (0%) patients required hospitalization, which is significantly less (p = 0.0011 via χ2 test) than synthetic control from database.Two subjects (#10 and #26) declined treatment. These subjects did not recover SpO2 and died from COVID-19 infection.



The rationale for using combination antiviral therapy is based on our growing understanding that intracellular infections – bacterial or viral, cannot be reliably cured using a single drug. It is also based on our knowledge that IVM resistance is common. Hence, there is no single ‘silver bullet’ for COVID-19, and the indiscriminate use of IVM alone could induce COVID-19 resistance by generating drug-resistant strains.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...1259924v1.full
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
Why are Liberals so dumb?

They literally parroted every narrative that Big Pharma wanted them to, without any objection.
TDS infection (there is no known cure) had them so they actually would do the opposite of anything Trump said, even if he was right. We all know the whole reason they were against Ivermectin because Trump suggested it.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Effect of Higher-Dose Ivermectin for 6 Days vs Placebo on Time to Sustained Recovery in Outpatients With COVID-19

"Findings
In this double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled platform trial including 1206 US adults with COVID-19 during February 2022 to July 2022, the median time to sustained recovery was 11 days in the ivermectin group and 11 days in the placebo group. In this largely vaccinated (84%) population, the posterior probability that ivermectin reduced symptom duration by more than 1 day was less than 0.1%.

Meaning These findings do not support the use of ivermectin among outpatients with COVID-19."

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2801827
Didn’t read you stupid **** got shill. Negged
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
And it's super fascinating how many more anti-vaxxers died vs people who got vaccinated/followed the FDA's advice to not use Ivermectin since we're not horses and cows and all.. (inb4 a "genius" comes in and proudly claims Ivermectin is prescribed for humans...)
Nothing like being a human pin cushion to prove a point.. ..
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Nothing like being a human pin cushion to prove a point.. ..
So much better to get your medical advice from morons like Joe Rogan to prove a point...
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
Didn’t read you stupid **** got shill. Negged
It goes without saying you people don't actually read the articles..
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
So much better to get your medical advice from morons like Joe Rogan to prove a point...
It's definitely better to get your medical advice from people who get rich off of sick people, right? How's about just thinking for yourself without getting advice from anyone, asshat?
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
So much better to get your medical advice from morons like Joe Rogan to prove a point...
Uhhh….Joe Rogan didn’t just pull the information out of his ass. He got it from speaking with countless professionals of different views all across the board. And he’s much healthier than you, so he must be doing something right.
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Originally Posted By vickissick07⏩
It's definitely better to get your medical advice from people who get rich off of sick people, right? How's about just thinking for yourself without getting advice from anyone, asshat?
Cool story retard, don't ever take medication or go to the hospital ever again.

Fuking moron.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Uhhh….Joe Rogan didn’t just pull the information out of his ass. He got it from speaking with countless professionals of different views all across the board. And he’s much healthier than you, so he must be doing something right.
Absolutely.. absolutely no reason at all to listen to the experts when we have Joe Fuking Rogan and his "resurch"...

And I guarantee you he's not healthier than me, you don't know fuk about me. You just can't help yourself from making idiotic statements like that because you have no argument. It's ok champ.
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