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post 1693950393 11-26-2023, 12:50 PM
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Anyone here use dexascans during cuts?

I'm getting ready to start a long cut, and want to make sure I am not losing too much muscle. The only way I know to keep tabs on this is through a DS. I know I will lose a lot of water weight in the first week, so I was thinking about waiting a week or so into the cut before getting scanned. When do you guys set a baseline?
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post 1693950433 11-26-2023, 12:52 PM
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I’d recommend doing it before you start just because seeing a huge drop off of weight and water and fat in the initial cutting stage can be very psychologically motivating
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I tried it twice at a college. It made me realize that 99.9% of the misc and fitness influencers have no idea WTF they're even talking about when estimating bf%. For example, you can have a lot of fat on your midsection and back, yet have semi-lean legs and arms bringing you into the high teens for bf%. If you posted a physique photo on the misc of such status, the misc would say you're 30%. (Super Ded fkn Srs)
post 1693950583 11-26-2023, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted By Sevenlionz⏩
I’d recommend doing it before you start just because seeing a huge drop off of weight and water and fat in the initial cutting stage can be very psychologically motivating
The dexa will see the water drop as lbm loss so I am trying to avoid that.
Originally Posted By gmenfan40⏩
I tried it twice at a college. It made me realize that 99.9% of the misc and fitness influencers have no idea WTF they're even talking about when estimating bf%. For example, you can have a lot of fat on your midsection and back, yet have semi-lean legs and arms bringing you into the high teens for bf%. If you posted a physique photo on the misc of such status, the misc would say you're 30%. (Super Ded fkn Srs)
I'm a fat ass so I don't have to worry much beyond tracking progress. I used to be in a similar position. My limbs/back are lean but my stomach stores fat. It doesn't really matter in the end, the goal is to look good not attain some number gnomesaiyan?

I just need to make sure I'm not burning through muscle with my cal deficit.

People are saying to make sure your glycogen stores are full but they will not be full during the cut so I don't want to baseline with them full, either. I'm thinking I wait a week and piss everything out then proceed?
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post 1693950803 11-26-2023, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
The dexa will see the water drop as lbm loss so I am trying to avoid that.



I'm a fat ass so I don't have to worry much beyond tracking progress. I used to be in a similar position. My limbs/back are lean but my stomach stores fat. It doesn't really matter in the end, the goal is to look good not attain some number gnomesaiyan?

I just need to make sure I'm not burning through muscle with my cal deficit.
Losing "muscle" is also an illusion. When I'm cutting, especially on low carbs I can look super depleted at times and much smaller. As soon as I carb up, I will get an insane pump and look way fuller. Also, look at a ribeye. If you trim all the fat out of the ribeye, it's smaller. That's the psychological fukkery when cutting. You shouldn't be losing much muscle unless you're starving yourself. Just focus on losing 1-2 pounds a week. (Super Ded fkn Srs)
post 1693950903 11-26-2023, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted By gmenfan40⏩
Losing "muscle" is also an illusion. When I'm cutting, especially on low carbs I can look super depleted at times and much smaller. As soon as I carb up, I will get an insane pump and look way fuller. Also, look at a ribeye. If you trim all the fat out of the ribeye, it's smaller. That's the psychological fukkery when cutting. You shouldn't be losing much muscle unless you're starving yourself. Just focus on losing 1-2 pounds a week. (Super Ded fkn Srs)
Agreed.^^
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post 1693950913 11-26-2023, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted By gmenfan40⏩
Losing "muscle" is also an illusion. When I'm cutting, especially on low carbs I can look super depleted at times and much smaller. As soon as I carb up, I will get an insane pump and look way fuller. Also, look at a ribeye. If you trim all the fat out of the ribeye, it's smaller. That's the psychological fukkery when cutting. You shouldn't be losing much muscle unless you're starving yourself. Just focus on losing 1-2 pounds a week. (Super Ded fkn Srs)
I'm definitely doing weird chit. I am doing an experiment to see how many calories I can mobilize in a cut. There is a theory out there than you can mobilize ~20 cals/lb of body fat and I want to test that. Unfortunately, I burn less than 2800 cals a day so I'll be eating 800 cal/day.

Going by that calculation, the thinner you are the less you should be cutting. At under 15% the deficit drops under 500 cals, which explains why people lose muscle when they lean out.
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post 1693951373 11-26-2023, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
I'm definitely doing weird chit. I am doing an experiment to see how many calories I can mobilize in a cut. There is a theory out there than you can mobilize ~20 cals/lb of body fat and I want to test that. Unfortunately, I burn less than 2800 cals a day so I'll be eating 800 cal/day.

Going by that calculation, the thinner you are the less you should be cutting. At under 15% the deficit drops under 500 cals, which explains why people lose muscle when they lean out.
You're completely overcomplicating it. Just start off in a 500 calorie deficient with mostly whole foods and only decrease if your weight loss stalls. (Super Ded fkn Srs)
post 1693951683 11-26-2023, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
I'm definitely doing weird chit. I am doing an experiment to see how many calories I can mobilize in a cut. There is a theory out there than you can mobilize ~20 cals/lb of body fat and I want to test that. Unfortunately, I burn less than 2800 cals a day so I'll be eating 800 cal/day.

Going by that calculation, the thinner you are the less you should be cutting. At under 15% the deficit drops under 500 cals, which explains why people lose muscle when they lean out.
You're just getting started on your diet and eating 800 cals a day? This makes absolutely no sense at all.

I'll let others jump in.
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post 1693951983 11-26-2023, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
You're just getting started on your diet and eating 800 cals a day? This makes absolutely no sense at all.

I'll let others jump in.
That's the point, to test the theory lmao

It is counter to common knowledge. I am just asking about the baseline but I knew what I am testing would start a ruckus.
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post 1693952163 11-26-2023, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
That's the point, to test the theory lmao

It is counter to common knowledge. I am just asking about the baseline but I knew what I am testing would start a ruckus.
You can do whatever you want, it's your life. But with that strategy, unless it's maybe a week max will crash your metabolism and you'll be starving, more likely to cheat and binge. (Super Ded fkn Srs)
post 1693952363 11-26-2023, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted By gmenfan40⏩
You can do whatever you want, it's your life. But with that strategy, unless it's maybe a week max will crash your metabolism and you'll be starving, more likely to cheat and binge. (Super Ded fkn Srs)
I love fasting, and daily intermittent fast. I have no issues with binging. This is not a weight loss thread, just a thread to hear from you guys about how you utilize your dexascan.

I've lost a lot of weight before but regained it due to injury. I've a sense that the calories you need are a bit overblown, but I'd rather nail that down with results. If those results contradict my recent bias, all the better. I am just looking to set a solid baseline of body composition using the Dexascan.

I'd even say 500 cals is too much of a deficit for anyone under 15% bf ded fkn srs
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post 1693952383 11-26-2023, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
That's the point, to test the theory lmao

It is counter to common knowledge. I am just asking about the baseline but I knew what I am testing would start a ruckus.
No ruckus here so do what you want. In your very first post your concern is muscle loss. If you're living on 800 calories you should be worried. Using a deficit that aggressive is how muscle loss happens.
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post 1693952423 11-26-2023, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
No ruckus here so do what you want. In your very first post your concern is muscle loss. If you're living on 800 calories you should be worried. Using a deficit that aggressive is how muscle loss happens.
but clearly gigantic fat asses do not have this issue. There has to be a rate that correlates with body fat. I'd like to personally characterize that for myself.
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post 1693952613 11-26-2023, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
but clearly gigantic fat asses do not have this issue. There has to be a rate that correlates with body fat. I'd like to personally characterize that for myself.
Are you high on shrooms? (Super Ded fkn Srs)
post 1693952763 11-26-2023, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted By gmenfan40⏩
Are you high on shrooms? (Super Ded fkn Srs)
not quite
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15615615/
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post 1693952783 11-26-2023, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
but clearly gigantic fat asses do not have this issue. There has to be a rate that correlates with body fat. I'd like to personally characterize that for myself.
If you have more to lose you can go more aggressive in your deficit, but not that low...it's just way too low.

Good luck.
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post 1693952863 11-26-2023, 01:50 PM
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You can use a little bit of that creatine and you won't have to worry about muscle loss.
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway⏩
You can use a little bit of that creatine and you won't have to worry about muscle loss.
Yes and that little bit of creatine causes a bigger appetite. Good luck doing that on 800 cals
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post 1693953133 11-26-2023, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
Yes and that little bit of creatine causes a bigger appetite. Good luck doing that on 800 cals
Creatine or not 800 calories is gonna suck either way.
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway⏩
Creatine or not 800 calories is gonna suck either way.
It fkn will! The calories go up everyday, by 10 calories hahahaha
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Alright got a baseline dexa today....174lbs lbm

we'll see what happens in the next month. I'm going to go back and see if I'm burning down Rome.

I've already been following my "diet" for a week just to piss out any excess hydration and glycogen.
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dexa scan is a waste of money, jus spend it on VAR
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dexa scan is a waste of money, jus spend it on VAR
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