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post 1694743003 12-12-2023, 05:23 AM
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At what point is exercise detrimental over yoy lifespan?

How many times can you bend a paperclip?

Yes doing squats does good things for you short term but your hip joint also has a finite number of flexations in its lifespan.
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post 1694743163 12-12-2023, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
but your hip joint also has a finite number of flexations in its lifespan.
brb our joints are non-biological and suffer from metal fatigue.
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post 1694743223 12-12-2023, 05:32 AM
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this is why walking>running
post 1694743273 12-12-2023, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
How many times can you bend a paperclip?

Yes doing squats does good things for you short term but your hip joint also has a finite number of flexations in its lifespan.
yep, this makes me mad when I'm given the difficult tasks at work "because I can do it", when all that will achieve is shortening my career compared with someone who doesn't do the strenuous tasks.
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post 1694743283 12-12-2023, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
How many times can you bend a paperclip?

Yes doing squats does good things for you short term but your hip joint also has a finite number of flexations in its lifespan.
repetitive use injuries almost never come from lifting

its almost always from manual labor, like shoveling dirt with the same motion 2 million times a month or running a concrete broom

you could make an argument for running because people who run do it every day and hit their knees with the force of 3x their bodyweight with every stride for miles upon miles

compare that with squatting that maybe hits your knees with 2-3x your bodyweight for like 20-30reps and thats only once a week usually unless you're doing some weird russian program

personally I've never hurt myself in the gym while doing a movement for that muscle or bodypart that got injured

like I've injured my back because my shoulder blade slipped off the bench while unracking bench press

never hurt my knee or tore a quad/glute while squatting

never hurt my back while deadlifting

but I tore a quad while sprinting in high school

threw my back out bending over to pick a can of soup up

tore something in my knee when a fat girl sat on my lap at a party in college
post 1694743933 12-12-2023, 05:54 AM
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Since no one logs a lifetime of physical fitness activity we will never know for sure.
The heavy weight stuff is definitely a no go after a certain point.
Tendons, ligaments and joints tend to not keep up.
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post 1694743943 12-12-2023, 05:54 AM
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There's a point where exercise becomes harmful, which is when the intensity, speed or load exceeds the amount of force the muscles, tendons and ligaments can handle. Also, if you're addicted to the rush of it and push yourself past the point of pain and ignore clear warning signs that it's too much. Crossfitters are notorious for this, which is my main issue with it.

I have had dozens of clients where I tell them I wish I'd gotten my hands on them five years earlier, because we could have kept them strong and saved injuries that required surgery.
post 1694744493 12-12-2023, 06:13 AM
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My Dad ran 10 miles a day 7 days a week for 39 years and his body is a mess now. He has to wear knee and ankle braces and a walker or cane.

He said he’d do it again, though, as he competed in marathons.

My back and neck are a mess from 40 years of tennis and 3 car accidents. Spine degeneration and it’s only going to get worse so I’m trying to travel now.
post 1694744573 12-12-2023, 06:18 AM
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Exercise and weight lifting has been proven to extand not only lifespan but quality of life across pretty much all metrics in hundreds of studies.

It's basically fact that exercise is not detrimental in any way to lifespan.
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post 1694744653 12-12-2023, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted By Tuga88⏩
Exercise and weight lifting has been proven to extand not only lifespan but quality of life across pretty much all metrics in hundreds of studies.

It's basically fact that exercise is not detrimental in any way to lifespan.
My left rotator cuff might argue with your premise.
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post 1694744893 12-12-2023, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted By batmanman⏩
tore something in my knee when a fat girl sat on my lap at a party in college
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But srsly though, you make good points about repetitive motions being more detrimental. Grinding down a certain link in a chain will destroy things faster than pulling on the chain the way it’s intended to be used. Plus people start compensating for an aggregated area which leads to a cascade effect of messing up everything.




As far as Opie’s question, I took it more as a question of taking years off of someone’s life instead of hindering quality of life. For that question I’d say it is detrimental when you don’t give your body time to heal properly. Exercise causes temporary inflammation, which is possibly the single worst thing for the body. However, it results in a prolonged decrease in inflammation because your body responds accordingly and gets stronger/better suited to deal with the stressors. If you don’t recover properly and maintain a state of elevated inflammation for prolonged periods of time it becomes detrimental to your health. You’ll be more likely to get sick, injured, or hurt in some other way. And that would result in decreased health and lifespan.
post 1694744973 12-12-2023, 06:37 AM
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Been lifting heavy since i was 15

Almost twenty years of lifting

I have no problems with joints at all. No pain whatsoever

The human body is much stronger than you can imagine
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post 1694745183 12-12-2023, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted By Fitnessguy24⏩
Been lifting heavy since i was 15

Almost twenty years of lifting

I have no problems with joints at all. No pain whatsoever

The human body is much stronger than you can imagine
Do you think that you are the norm or the exception? Think about all of the lifters that you know.
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Originally Posted By Evil_D⏩
yep, this makes me mad when I'm given the difficult tasks at work "because I can do it", when all that will achieve is shortening my career compared with someone who doesn't do the strenuous tasks.
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according to research it seems there’s a linear
progression of added benefit up until 9-10hours of training per week. That’s the dose after which there are diminishing returns for healthspan/lifespan.

That said, you shouldn’t be squatting for 10hours a week. Miscers don’t get (or deliberately ignore) that there’s a bunch of other low impact **** like cardio (swimming, biking, rowing, hiking up hill… even sauna is considered a moderate exercise).

I’ve trained non stop for 20years including heavy ass weights, combat sports, contact sports (hockey), etc. Today I train way MORE than back in the day because I do a **** load of low impact z2 and z5 cardio and sweat in the sauna, I still do weights (3-5 times a week) but way less intensity and more volume. I frequently total 9-10hrs per week. The old injuries (knee, lower back,…) flare from time to time but that’s life.
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