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01-09-2024, 05:52 PM
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What was the main catalyst for WW2 in your humble opinion?
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Lack of professional and high-level, collegiate, sports, popularity creating feeling like you're part of something tribal loyalty- and human quinch for conquering fulfilled.
Baseball at the time just wasn't enough.
Baseball at the time just wasn't enough.
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Jews could not allow Germany to remain independent and successful, because that would influence every other country to follow their model. Jews can't make any money or have any power in a society like Nazi Germany.
The USA needed to eliminate all major competitors and also become the main vehicle for jewish power globally. WW2 represented a shift from Western Europe to America in who dominates the world. If Japan was left on its own they would have completely dominated Asia, and be too powerful which would also prevent the Jews form having influence in that part of the world.
WW2 was about establishing jewish dominance worldwide using the US as a vehicle for their plans.
The USA needed to eliminate all major competitors and also become the main vehicle for jewish power globally. WW2 represented a shift from Western Europe to America in who dominates the world. If Japan was left on its own they would have completely dominated Asia, and be too powerful which would also prevent the Jews form having influence in that part of the world.
WW2 was about establishing jewish dominance worldwide using the US as a vehicle for their plans.
01-09-2024, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Islandboyo⏩
Did jews arrange the breaking up of Germany after WW1?Jews could not allow Germany to remain independent and successful, because that would influence every other country to follow their model. Jews can't make any money or have any power in a society like Nazi Germany.
The USA needed to eliminate all major competitors and also become the main vehicle for jewish power globally. WW2 represented a shift from Western Europe to America in who dominates the world. If Japan was left on its own they would have completely dominated Asia, and be too powerful which would also prevent the Jews form having influence in that part of the world.
WW2 was about establishing jewish dominance worldwide using the US as a vehicle for their plans.
The USA needed to eliminate all major competitors and also become the main vehicle for jewish power globally. WW2 represented a shift from Western Europe to America in who dominates the world. If Japan was left on its own they would have completely dominated Asia, and be too powerful which would also prevent the Jews form having influence in that part of the world.
WW2 was about establishing jewish dominance worldwide using the US as a vehicle for their plans.
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Treaty of Versailles, IMO any rational state would fight back against this, however, the citizens were fooled with propaganda and elected a sycophant with a bunch of children around him instead of a more sane and rational leader. Maybe the one guy Goring was ok but too bad heroin addiction got him.
Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
You do understand he's mentally unstable, right? Theres no point.Did jews arrange the breaking up of Germany after WW1?
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01-09-2024, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
I don't think this is necessarily true. Germany was in a bad place under the Weimar Regime politically and economically, with Bolsheviks attacking from the East.Treaty of Versailles, IMO any rational state would fight back against this, however, the citizens were fooled with propaganda and elected a sycophant with a bunch of children around him instead of a more sane and rational leader. Maybe the one guy Goring was ok but too bad heroin addiction got him.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
You ignoring the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk???I don't think this is necessarily true. Germany was in a bad place under the Weimar Regime politically and economically, with Bolsheviks attacking from the East.
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Originally Posted By Islandboyo⏩
It's truly hilarious the **** you believe.......Jews could not allow Germany to remain independent and successful, because that would influence every other country to follow their model. Jews can't make any money or have any power in a society like Nazi Germany.
The USA needed to eliminate all major competitors and also become the main vehicle for jewish power globally. WW2 represented a shift from Western Europe to America in who dominates the world. If Japan was left on its own they would have completely dominated Asia, and be too powerful which would also prevent the Jews form having influence in that part of the world.
WW2 was about establishing jewish dominance worldwide using the US as a vehicle for their plans.
The USA needed to eliminate all major competitors and also become the main vehicle for jewish power globally. WW2 represented a shift from Western Europe to America in who dominates the world. If Japan was left on its own they would have completely dominated Asia, and be too powerful which would also prevent the Jews form having influence in that part of the world.
WW2 was about establishing jewish dominance worldwide using the US as a vehicle for their plans.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Of course they were in a bad place, I'm saying the Treaty of Versailles was the cause of that. They had to pay out constant reparations, no military allowed, territory given up, no more colonies, etc.. I think what made it worse was also the fact that Austria started WW1 and dragged Germany into it.I don't think this is necessarily true. Germany was in a bad place under the Weimar Regime politically and economically, with Bolsheviks attacking from the East.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Jews profited greatly off of the German defeat, but did not necessarily arrange the breakup. Germany was defeated not because of their military being weak, but because of their weak government who consisted of cuck politicians and NOT real leaders. Those same cuck politicians were selling the country off to the jews. The only people who benefited in Germany after WW1 were jews, and that was because of their positions in finance. Hyper inflation sucked for everyone else, the people at the top were okay though.Did jews arrange the breaking up of Germany after WW1?
Almost same exact situation we find ourselves in today in America. Democratically elected criminals selling out the country.
Other European powers wanted to break Germany as well. It's not solely the jooos who are at fault for everything.
01-09-2024, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
Partly.Of course they were in a bad place, I'm saying the Treaty of Versailles was the cause of that. They had to pay out constant reparations, no military allowed, territory given up, no more colonies, etc.. I think what made it worse was also the fact that Austria started WW1 and dragged Germany into it.
The Poles were in a civil war with the Germans. The breakup of Germany left huge populations of Germans in Austria and Czechoslovakia that were ultimately going to lead to problems down the road.
Sort of like what we see in Ukraine right now. Same anti German sentiments as the anti Russian sentiment in eastern Ukraine.
Hitler never planned the annex Austria, it kind of just happened.
Hitler tried to come to some settlement with Poland, with France and Italy trying their hardest to prevent the war.
Britain, led by Lord Halifax, wouldnโt allow it.
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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
But even with that, the Nazis really weren't making any gains till the great depression.Of course they were in a bad place, I'm saying the Treaty of Versailles was the cause of that. They had to pay out constant reparations, no military allowed, territory given up, no more colonies, etc.. I think what made it worse was also the fact that Austria started WW1 and dragged Germany into it.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Right, he would have been satisfied if he just got the Danzig corridor....... He wouldn't have made any more demands.Partly.
The Poles were in a civil war with the Germans. The breakup of Germany left huge populations of Germans in Austria and Czechoslovakia that were ultimately going to lead to problems down the road.
Sort of like what we see in Ukraine right now. Same anti German sentiments as the anti Russian sentiment in eastern Ukraine.
Hitler never planned the annex Austria, it kind of just happened.
Hitler tried to come to some settlement with Poland, with France and Italy trying their hardest to prevent the war.
Britain, led by Lord Halifax, wouldnโt allow it.
The Poles were in a civil war with the Germans. The breakup of Germany left huge populations of Germans in Austria and Czechoslovakia that were ultimately going to lead to problems down the road.
Sort of like what we see in Ukraine right now. Same anti German sentiments as the anti Russian sentiment in eastern Ukraine.
Hitler never planned the annex Austria, it kind of just happened.
Hitler tried to come to some settlement with Poland, with France and Italy trying their hardest to prevent the war.
Britain, led by Lord Halifax, wouldnโt allow it.
01-09-2024, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
No fuking shyt lmao.But even with that, the Nazis really weren't making any gains till the great depression.
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01-09-2024, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
The British were the only ones making unreasonable demands. Even the French thought Hitlers compromise was worth negotiating for until Halifax sabotaged it.Right, he would have been satisfied if he just got the Danzig corridor....... He wouldn't have made any more demands.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
The perfect storm for a new radical government.But even with that, the Nazis really weren't making any gains till the great depression.
Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Push people far enough theyll elect Hitler. Even with propaganda, doesnt make it hard to go extremist when times seem dire.The British were the only ones making unreasonable demands. Even the French thought Hitlers compromise was worth negotiating for until Halifax sabotaged it.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
If Germany was given the Danzig Corridor, you're claiming they would have stopped making demands?The British were the only ones making unreasonable demands. Even the French thought Hitlers compromise was worth negotiating for until Halifax sabotaged it.
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The lack of an international framework to resolve disputes that account for local power disparities. This is the key distinction between the League of Nations, which failed, and the UN, which succeeded. The UNSC allows for veto powers, which respect the relative power of major states and consolidates power into blocs, reducing the likelihood of opportunistic invasions.
In the volatile environment of rapid industrialization, the emergence of communism, the unstable international framework, and an every man for himself environment, nationalism and imperialism thrived and reached their most extreme consequences. It was a particularly volatile and dangerous time when there were basically no guard rails against violent conquest and where it often made rational sense to go to war over attempting peaceful negotiations. Social conditions were profoundly unstable. Remember that human rights essentially did not exist.
Every other take you read here is sophomoric. None of you understand geopolitics at all. You are not gentlemen of culture like me.
In the volatile environment of rapid industrialization, the emergence of communism, the unstable international framework, and an every man for himself environment, nationalism and imperialism thrived and reached their most extreme consequences. It was a particularly volatile and dangerous time when there were basically no guard rails against violent conquest and where it often made rational sense to go to war over attempting peaceful negotiations. Social conditions were profoundly unstable. Remember that human rights essentially did not exist.
Every other take you read here is sophomoric. None of you understand geopolitics at all. You are not gentlemen of culture like me.
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Originally Posted By Islandboyo⏩
The fall of Japan didn't really work in the Jews favor. China emerged as an economic powerhouse, and they noticed the Jew a long time ago.Jews could not allow Germany to remain independent and successful, because that would influence every other country to follow their model. Jews can't make any money or have any power in a society like Nazi Germany.
The USA needed to eliminate all major competitors and also become the main vehicle for jewish power globally. WW2 represented a shift from Western Europe to America in who dominates the world. If Japan was left on its own they would have completely dominated Asia, and be too powerful which would also prevent the Jews form having influence in that part of the world.
WW2 was about establishing jewish dominance worldwide using the US as a vehicle for their plans.
The USA needed to eliminate all major competitors and also become the main vehicle for jewish power globally. WW2 represented a shift from Western Europe to America in who dominates the world. If Japan was left on its own they would have completely dominated Asia, and be too powerful which would also prevent the Jews form having influence in that part of the world.
WW2 was about establishing jewish dominance worldwide using the US as a vehicle for their plans.
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Originally Posted By swoleyo⏩
He really believes that Japan would have somehow conquered all of China???The fall of Japan didn't really work in the Jews favor. China emerged as an economic powerhouse, and they noticed the Jew a long time ago.
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Originally Posted By swoleyo⏩
True China is a big powerhouse, but if China is such a big force today, imagine what the Japanese would be with all of the land and resources of Asia. A Japanese empire in the East would rival the power the Americans have over the world.The fall of Japan didn't really work in the Jews favor. China emerged as an economic powerhouse, and they noticed the Jew a long time ago.
A Nazi Germany led Europe, and a Japanese led Asia, along with the US leading America would likely be the three big powers today, instead of the US being the sole mass power in the world which allows the jews to do as they wish. China and Russia may be strong, but they do not oppose western/jewish interests as strongly as one may think.
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Originally Posted By Islandboyo⏩
You read too many alternate fiction books, and watch waaaaay too many movies. The Axis were never going to win.True China is a big powerhouse, but if China is such a big force today, imagine what the Japanese would be with all of the land and resources of Asia. A Japanese empire in the East would rival the power the Americans have over the world.
A Nazi Germany led Europe, and a Japanese led Asia, along with the US leading America would likely be the three big powers today, instead of the US being the sole mass power in the world which allows the jews to do as they wish. China and Russia may be strong, but they do not oppose western/jewish interests as strongly as one may think.
A Nazi Germany led Europe, and a Japanese led Asia, along with the US leading America would likely be the three big powers today, instead of the US being the sole mass power in the world which allows the jews to do as they wish. China and Russia may be strong, but they do not oppose western/jewish interests as strongly as one may think.
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The Treaty of Versailles royally screwing Germany over for 20+ years with no end in sight, making it impossible to build themselves back up, before someone finally said enough.
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1. Treaty of Versailles
2. Post colonial weakness of China
3. Chinese civil war
4. European appeasement in the 30s
2 and 3 basically brought Japan into direct conflict with the US and Britain over resources and control of the sea lanes in the South Pacific.
1 guaranteed that Germany would remilitarize. 4 ensured that that remilitarization completed before anyone did anything about it.
2. Post colonial weakness of China
3. Chinese civil war
4. European appeasement in the 30s
2 and 3 basically brought Japan into direct conflict with the US and Britain over resources and control of the sea lanes in the South Pacific.
1 guaranteed that Germany would remilitarize. 4 ensured that that remilitarization completed before anyone did anything about it.
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This entire thread / and nobody's mentioned the 1920 Brussels International Financial Conference. Kinda disappointed, figured the recent r/p climate would have been on it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brus...ference_(1920)
https://www.jstor.org/stable/2222869
http://archive.spectator.co.uk/artic...-6d-netthis-is
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brus...ference_(1920)
https://www.jstor.org/stable/2222869
http://archive.spectator.co.uk/artic...-6d-netthis-is
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