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Got into fight with live in GF about Miami girls trip (Srs)
So my gf went to Miami for her best friends bachelorette party a few years ago (before I met her, no cuck)
I met this girlfriend of hers a few months ago and she seemed like a nice girl, now married obviously. Husband was cool too but could tell he is too nice.
My gf knows my thoughts on girls trips (any brah who has fuked enough sluts with bfs/husbands on vacation is wise to this red pill) and is overall a great and very submissive girl who treats me well. Anyway, she mentioned to me a few months ago this same girlfriend of hers is going back to Miami next month for a work trip weekend and she invited my gf to come hang out and stay with her. My gf invited me along to which I initially said yes and we were gonna book our own room and chit but things came up with work so I went against my gut and told her I'll prob just stay home while she goes and stays with her friend in Miami for the weekend.
Well, I question her more about the bachelorette party from 2 years ago and turns out her friend cheated on her fiance (It was only a kiss! riiiiiight lol) I got pissed and told her of course my gut feeling about girls trips is true and that if she wants to go, she can but she'll be going as a single woman. We aren't currently speaking.
Did I do the right thing brahs? Or am I too red pilled? I gotta stick to my guns now either way.
I met this girlfriend of hers a few months ago and she seemed like a nice girl, now married obviously. Husband was cool too but could tell he is too nice.
My gf knows my thoughts on girls trips (any brah who has fuked enough sluts with bfs/husbands on vacation is wise to this red pill) and is overall a great and very submissive girl who treats me well. Anyway, she mentioned to me a few months ago this same girlfriend of hers is going back to Miami next month for a work trip weekend and she invited my gf to come hang out and stay with her. My gf invited me along to which I initially said yes and we were gonna book our own room and chit but things came up with work so I went against my gut and told her I'll prob just stay home while she goes and stays with her friend in Miami for the weekend.
Well, I question her more about the bachelorette party from 2 years ago and turns out her friend cheated on her fiance (It was only a kiss! riiiiiight lol) I got pissed and told her of course my gut feeling about girls trips is true and that if she wants to go, she can but she'll be going as a single woman. We aren't currently speaking.
Did I do the right thing brahs? Or am I too red pilled? I gotta stick to my guns now either way.
01-11-2024, 08:46 AM
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it was your turn an now your turn is over. next.
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01-11-2024, 08:49 AM
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Lmao
So you told her you'd go, then canceled, and are now having a tiny dick insecure panic attack because her friend kissed/smashed a dude in that geographic location in years past?
Bro, if you're that worried and insecure, she's not the one. It's that simple.
I'll put it this way, I don't keep my dog on a leash. The fact is, I'd rather have no dog than one i couldn't trust.
Inb4 a bunch of tiny dicked insecure miscers expose exactly why they are lifelong incels and project their experiences as low value men onto others.
So you told her you'd go, then canceled, and are now having a tiny dick insecure panic attack because her friend kissed/smashed a dude in that geographic location in years past?
Bro, if you're that worried and insecure, she's not the one. It's that simple.
I'll put it this way, I don't keep my dog on a leash. The fact is, I'd rather have no dog than one i couldn't trust.
Inb4 a bunch of tiny dicked insecure miscers expose exactly why they are lifelong incels and project their experiences as low value men onto others.
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Originally Posted By yieldtonothing⏩
This. In this life, you either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself get cucked. That's life, son. Sloots gonna sloot, don't dwell on it, as it does no good. Moving along.age: 33
it was your turn an now your turn is over. next.
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01-11-2024, 08:53 AM
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She for the Miami streets now bro
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Legit went to Vegas with some friends for a bachelor party 8 years ago. Friend of mine cheated on his gf with a random in Vegas. My friend later proposed to his gf, got married and they now have a kid together. She never found out. Wonder how much this happens as I've witnessed it first hand.
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The other chick will 100% cheat on her husband on this supposed “work trip” back to the scene of the crime. Very probable she meeting up with original dude
Women are so predictable and slooty
Women are so predictable and slooty
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Too red-pilled IMO. I agree with your decision but I don't necessarily think it's right to pre-empt your girls actions based on your imagination. It's probably cope, but I just figure that the guy is a beta or otherwise worse off than me. You should trust her to do the right thing unless she's shown you otherwise. Let her go and if she screws up walk away. You are potentially breaking up with her or making a big deal based on your fear instead of actual events. Ideally she should've respected your boundaries in the first place so you kinda lost this battle the moment she decided to still go anyways or made it a point to still go. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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Originally Posted By HayZues
I hear everything you are saying and actually have looked up to you as a brah that actually gets pussy for years now unlike most incels here srs. Pretty sure I pmed you like 10 years ago saying you helped me get good with girls years ago lol. Anyway, I realize how me acting like that sounds insecure but would you want your wife going on a girls trip with someone who is a cheater? Srs bro?Lmao
So you told her you'd go, then canceled, and are now having a tiny dick insecure panic attack because her friend kissed/smashed a dude in that geographic location in years past?
Bro, if you're that worried and insecure, she's not the one. It's that simple.
I'll put it this way, I don't keep my dog on a leash. The fact is, I'd rather have no dog than one i couldn't trust.
Inb4 a bunch of tiny dicked insecure miscers expose exactly why they are lifelong incels and project their experiences as low value men onto others.
So you told her you'd go, then canceled, and are now having a tiny dick insecure panic attack because her friend kissed/smashed a dude in that geographic location in years past?
Bro, if you're that worried and insecure, she's not the one. It's that simple.
I'll put it this way, I don't keep my dog on a leash. The fact is, I'd rather have no dog than one i couldn't trust.
Inb4 a bunch of tiny dicked insecure miscers expose exactly why they are lifelong incels and project their experiences as low value men onto others.
Anyway, Let me add that my gf was also justifying her friend cheating with statements like "she just made a mistake". If she is willing to justify that kind of behavior for a friend as not a big deal and "only a kiss" (lets be real she prob sucked a cock) she is probably willing to justify the same behavior to herself no?
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01-11-2024, 09:04 AM
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My first reaction reading your story I got the impression circumstances have changed for these women and you won't have to worry about her sucking any erections this time around. You're likely also riled up, thinking your loyal and submissive girlfriend probably did some **** at the bachelorette party uears ago you don't know about, and that's why you're hellbent on her not going.
Of course cheating absolutely could happen and they are going to Miami of all places, but I guess you know your girlfriend better than we do so it's your call if you think her to be the type. Both your girlfriend and her friend are in relationships now. It is usually the newly single friend who coerces the taken women to live it up and cheat.
Personally i would be okay with it, but absolutely keep my wits about it all if she acts funny or if I hear something strange to raise my suspicion. I wouldn't automatically assume she's going to have a wild weekend and get fukt in all corners.
Of course cheating absolutely could happen and they are going to Miami of all places, but I guess you know your girlfriend better than we do so it's your call if you think her to be the type. Both your girlfriend and her friend are in relationships now. It is usually the newly single friend who coerces the taken women to live it up and cheat.
Personally i would be okay with it, but absolutely keep my wits about it all if she acts funny or if I hear something strange to raise my suspicion. I wouldn't automatically assume she's going to have a wild weekend and get fukt in all corners.
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I guess so...I gotta stick to my guns now either way.
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Originally Posted By iamdetermined⏩
Facts but when you say if she screws up walk away how do you know? I'd like to think I'd be able to tell and she's a good enough girl not to hide it but I also met this girl that cheated and she seemed nice enough. We all know sloots can be deceptive (just like men)Too red-pilled IMO. I agree with your decision but I don't necessarily think it's right to pre-empt your girls actions based on your imagination. It's probably cope, but I just figure that the guy is a beta or otherwise worse off than me. You should trust her to do the right thing unless she's shown you otherwise. Let her go and if she screws up walk away. You are potentially breaking up with her or making a big deal based on your fear instead of actual events. Ideally she should've respected your boundaries in the first place so you kinda lost this battle the moment she decided to still go anyways or made it a point to still go. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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Originally Posted By iamdetermined⏩
Hey, let's look at the bright side. At least OP's gf is about to have a great fun time on her girls' trip while totally non-insecure OP sits alone fapping and miscing at home.Too red-pilled IMO. I agree with your decision but I don't necessarily think it's right to pre-empt your girls actions based on your imagination. It's probably cope, but I just figure that the guy is a beta or otherwise worse off than me. You should trust her to do the right thing unless she's shown you otherwise. Let her go and if she screws up walk away. You are potentially breaking up with her or making a big deal based on your fear instead of actual events. Ideally she should've respected your boundaries in the first place so you kinda lost this battle the moment she decided to still go anyways or made it a point to still go. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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Originally Posted By DolphinPilot⏩
Funny you say that because I always assumed she fuked around when she was there bc she was single (unlike her sloot engaged friend) and so never asked but did today during the fight and she adamantly denied it. She's a poor liar in general from what I've gathered being with her so far but who knows brah.My first reaction reading your story I got the impression circumstances have changed for these women and you won't have to worry about her sucking any erections this time around. You're likely also riled up, thinking your loyal and submissive girlfriend probably did some **** at the bachelorette party uears ago you don't know about, and that's why you're hellbent on her not going.
Of course cheating absolutely could happen and they are going to Miami of all places, but I guess you know your girlfriend better than we do so it's your call if you think her to be the type. Both your girlfriend and her friend are in relationships now. It is usually the newly single friend who coerces the taken women to live it up and cheat.
Personally i would be okay with it, but absolutely keep my wits about it all if she acts funny or if I hear something strange to raise my suspicion. I wouldn't automatically assume she's going to have a wild weekend and get fukt in all corners.
I guess so...
Of course cheating absolutely could happen and they are going to Miami of all places, but I guess you know your girlfriend better than we do so it's your call if you think her to be the type. Both your girlfriend and her friend are in relationships now. It is usually the newly single friend who coerces the taken women to live it up and cheat.
Personally i would be okay with it, but absolutely keep my wits about it all if she acts funny or if I hear something strange to raise my suspicion. I wouldn't automatically assume she's going to have a wild weekend and get fukt in all corners.
I guess so...
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Originally Posted By G-Profit⏩
Bro if this is actually a serious thread then of course your woman going to cheat if she hasn't yet.I hear everything you are saying and actually have looked up to you as a brah that actually gets pussy for years now unlike most incels here srs. Pretty sure I pmed you like 10 years ago saying you helped me get good with girls years ago lol. Anyway, I realize how me acting like that sounds insecure but would you want your wife going on a girls trip with someone who is a cheater? Srs bro?
Anyway, Let me add that my gf was also justifying her friend cheating with statements like "she just made a mistake". If she is willing to justify that kind of behavior for a friend as not a big deal and "only a kiss" (lets be real she prob sucked a cock) she is probably willing to justify the same behavior to herself no?
Anyway, Let me add that my gf was also justifying her friend cheating with statements like "she just made a mistake". If she is willing to justify that kind of behavior for a friend as not a big deal and "only a kiss" (lets be real she prob sucked a cock) she is probably willing to justify the same behavior to herself no?
Her friend will cheat again down there and what will your gf do, just go back alone? Not a chance if that's the kind of logic she has and girls she's friends with
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Originally Posted By HayZues
I usually don't agree with this guy but he's right you know ^Lmao
So you told her you'd go, then canceled, and are now having a tiny dick insecure panic attack because her friend kissed/smashed a dude in that geographic location in years past?
Bro, if you're that worried and insecure, she's not the one. It's that simple.
I'll put it this way, I don't keep my dog on a leash. The fact is, I'd rather have no dog than one i couldn't trust.
Inb4 a bunch of tiny dicked insecure miscers expose exactly why they are lifelong incels and project their experiences as low value men onto others.
So you told her you'd go, then canceled, and are now having a tiny dick insecure panic attack because her friend kissed/smashed a dude in that geographic location in years past?
Bro, if you're that worried and insecure, she's not the one. It's that simple.
I'll put it this way, I don't keep my dog on a leash. The fact is, I'd rather have no dog than one i couldn't trust.
Inb4 a bunch of tiny dicked insecure miscers expose exactly why they are lifelong incels and project their experiences as low value men onto others.
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Originally Posted By G-Profit⏩
Facts but when you say if she screws up walk away how do you know? I'd like to think I'd be able to tell and she's a good enough girl not to hide it but I also met this girl that cheated and she seemed nice enough. We all know sloots can be deceptive (just like men)
Originally Posted By G-Profit⏩
i think it's funny that you would call anyone an incel and then continue to make these seemingly srs posts that you've made itt after this oneThanks for the advice incel. Mirin the sopranos quote though
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Originally Posted By HayZues
This. Can't turn a hoe into a housewife, boyo. You won't always be there to hold her leash.Lmao
So you told her you'd go, then canceled, and are now having a tiny dick insecure panic attack because her friend kissed/smashed a dude in that geographic location in years past?
Bro, if you're that worried and insecure, she's not the one. It's that simple.
I'll put it this way, I don't keep my dog on a leash. The fact is, I'd rather have no dog than one i couldn't trust.
Inb4 a bunch of tiny dicked insecure miscers expose exactly why they are lifelong incels and project their experiences as low value men onto others.
So you told her you'd go, then canceled, and are now having a tiny dick insecure panic attack because her friend kissed/smashed a dude in that geographic location in years past?
Bro, if you're that worried and insecure, she's not the one. It's that simple.
I'll put it this way, I don't keep my dog on a leash. The fact is, I'd rather have no dog than one i couldn't trust.
Inb4 a bunch of tiny dicked insecure miscers expose exactly why they are lifelong incels and project their experiences as low value men onto others.
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Originally Posted By DolphinPilot⏩
Cliffs:My first reaction reading your story I got the impression circumstances have changed for these women and you won't have to worry about her sucking any erections this time around. You're likely also riled up, thinking your loyal and submissive girlfriend probably did some **** at the bachelorette party uears ago you don't know about, and that's why you're hellbent on her not going.
Of course cheating absolutely could happen and they are going to Miami of all places, but I guess you know your girlfriend better than we do so it's your call if you think her to be the type. Both your girlfriend and her friend are in relationships now. It is usually the newly single friend who coerces the taken women to live it up and cheat.
Personally i would be okay with it, but absolutely keep my wits about it all if she acts funny or if I hear something strange to raise my suspicion. I wouldn't automatically assume she's going to have a wild weekend and get fukt in all corners.
I guess so...
Of course cheating absolutely could happen and they are going to Miami of all places, but I guess you know your girlfriend better than we do so it's your call if you think her to be the type. Both your girlfriend and her friend are in relationships now. It is usually the newly single friend who coerces the taken women to live it up and cheat.
Personally i would be okay with it, but absolutely keep my wits about it all if she acts funny or if I hear something strange to raise my suspicion. I wouldn't automatically assume she's going to have a wild weekend and get fukt in all corners.
I guess so...
- OP's gf wants to suck another man's cawk
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Originally Posted By G-Profit⏩
She was forced to defend her friend because you were on tilt.I hear everything you are saying and actually have looked up to you as a brah that actually gets pussy for years now unlike most incels here srs. Pretty sure I pmed you like 10 years ago saying you helped me get good with girls years ago lol. Anyway, I realize how me acting like that sounds insecure but would you want your wife going on a girls trip with someone who is a cheater? Srs bro?
Anyway, Let me add that my gf was also justifying her friend cheating with statements like "she just made a mistake". If she is willing to justify that kind of behavior for a friend as not a big deal and "only a kiss" (lets be real she prob sucked a cock) she is probably willing to justify the same behavior to herself no?
Anyway, Let me add that my gf was also justifying her friend cheating with statements like "she just made a mistake". If she is willing to justify that kind of behavior for a friend as not a big deal and "only a kiss" (lets be real she prob sucked a cock) she is probably willing to justify the same behavior to herself no?
You know your girl better than I do. I'm saying id you can't trust her in this situation , then she's not the one anyway.
It's not like she approached you to take a girls only trip, you were supposed to come and canceled.
In the end, people can only treat you how you let them, and if this crosses a lone to you, make it known and give her enough rope to hang herself. Read and react appropriately.
I'd let my wife go with her friends to Miami. I have no fear that she'd even approach the idea of risking losing me. I know my value. I also trust my own instincts and would have 0 problem leaving her if she crossed any line on said trip.
Ultimately we're all just going to project out own experiences/security/insecurity onto you, but you know your girl and your relationship better than we do. If you've made it clear in past conversations that you don't believe in "girls" trips in committed relationships, and she goes anyway, is telling. Again gotta give enough rope so they can expose themselves. A dog on a leash tells me very little about that dog.
Also think you might be feeling a little more jealous/upset about your gfs actions on previous trip than you're willing to admit, even to yourself. That's bleeding into your feelings about this maybe?
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Originally Posted By HayZues
Not about this particular past bachelorette trip because she told me she didn't do anything (I actually believe her bro and believe me I'm skeptical and a bit insecure in general obviously). I'm sure my insecurities are bleeding into it and me going full tilt.She was forced to defend her friend because you were on tilt.
You know your girl better than I do. I'm saying id you can't trust her in this situation , then she's not the one anyway.
It's not like she approached you to take a girls only trip, you were supposed to come and canceled.
In the end, people can only treat you how you let them, and if this crosses a lone to you, make it known and give her enough rope to hang herself. Read and react appropriately.
I'd let my wife go with her friends to Miami. I have no fear that she'd even approach the idea of risking losing me. I know my value. I also trust my own instincts and would have 0 problem leaving her if she crossed any line on said trip.
Ultimately we're all just going to project out own experiences/security/insecurity onto you, but you know your girl and your relationship better than we do. If you've made it clear in past conversations that you don't believe in "girls" trips in committed relationships, and she goes anyway, is telling. Again gotta give enough rope so they can expose themselves. A dog on a leash tells me very little about that dog.
Also think you might be feeling a little more jealous/upset about your gfs actions on previous trip than you're willing to admit, even to yourself. That's bleeding into your feelings about this maybe?
You know your girl better than I do. I'm saying id you can't trust her in this situation , then she's not the one anyway.
It's not like she approached you to take a girls only trip, you were supposed to come and canceled.
In the end, people can only treat you how you let them, and if this crosses a lone to you, make it known and give her enough rope to hang herself. Read and react appropriately.
I'd let my wife go with her friends to Miami. I have no fear that she'd even approach the idea of risking losing me. I know my value. I also trust my own instincts and would have 0 problem leaving her if she crossed any line on said trip.
Ultimately we're all just going to project out own experiences/security/insecurity onto you, but you know your girl and your relationship better than we do. If you've made it clear in past conversations that you don't believe in "girls" trips in committed relationships, and she goes anyway, is telling. Again gotta give enough rope so they can expose themselves. A dog on a leash tells me very little about that dog.
Also think you might be feeling a little more jealous/upset about your gfs actions on previous trip than you're willing to admit, even to yourself. That's bleeding into your feelings about this maybe?
Like I said I respect you as a poster on this subject so my question now is now that I've already given her a red pilled ultimatum I have to stick to it right? Obviously, if she gets ballsy and chooses this trip over me then we're done anyway I can't look at her the same. But right now I don't see a way of withdrawing my threat and saving face.
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I'll never understand either men or women going on these stupid bachelor/bachelorette party trips, so I can't help you, OP.
In the end this comes down to trust. Do you trust your girl or not? For example, my wife would never go to something like that, but if she did go, she'd dislike every minute and be in bed by 9pm. Dead fkn srs. I'd trust her implicitly.
Communication and trust. Don't listen to the angry bitter jaded incels ITT. In their warped minds, all women are cheating whores.
In the end this comes down to trust. Do you trust your girl or not? For example, my wife would never go to something like that, but if she did go, she'd dislike every minute and be in bed by 9pm. Dead fkn srs. I'd trust her implicitly.
Communication and trust. Don't listen to the angry bitter jaded incels ITT. In their warped minds, all women are cheating whores.
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Originally Posted By Titansfan08⏩
Yea its her logic and justification of it that has me seeing her in a new light right now. Like HZC said maybe that is because I was chitting all over her sloot friends behavior and she is defending.Bro if this is actually a serious thread then of course your woman going to cheat if she hasn't yet.
Her friend will cheat again down there and what will your gf do, just go back alone? Not a chance if that's the kind of logic she has and girls she's friends with
Her friend will cheat again down there and what will your gf do, just go back alone? Not a chance if that's the kind of logic she has and girls she's friends with
01-11-2024, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted By G-Profit⏩
Without knowing exactly where you guys are in your relationship, a man can admit when he's wrong.Not about this particular past bachelorette trip because she told me she didn't do anything (I actually believe her bro and believe me I'm skeptical and a bit insecure in general obviously). I'm sure my insecurities are bleeding into it and me going full tilt.
Like I said I respect you as a poster on this subject so my question now is now that I've already given her a red pilled ultimatum I have to stick to it right? Obviously, if she gets ballsy and chooses this trip over me then we're done anyway I can't look at her the same. But right now I don't see a way of withdrawing my threat and saving face.
Like I said I respect you as a poster on this subject so my question now is now that I've already given her a red pilled ultimatum I have to stick to it right? Obviously, if she gets ballsy and chooses this trip over me then we're done anyway I can't look at her the same. But right now I don't see a way of withdrawing my threat and saving face.
Not even wrong, you can admit that after some thought, your opinion has changed. If she's worth a damn at all, she'll respect that. Might even choose not to go still.
And make sure she knows what is on the line if any sort of "mistake" were to happen.
As for the fear of never finding out? That's always a possibility and the truth is if you never know, it will never effect you. It's a weird thing to understand and accept, but it is true. And if you do find out, you move on. There is no in-between.
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01-11-2024, 09:31 AM
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ITT OP is a *******, if you can't trust her to go on holiday and not **** someone else then jakes on you I'm an octopus
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Originally Posted By singlemom69⏩
lol this 100%She for the Miami streets now bro
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If your woman wants to go on a girls trip without you..she is not a good woman. The only time my wife has taken trips without me are when she has gone with her mother, aunts & grandma…to Oklahoma ..no way in hell would she be going to Miami. Not because I wouldn’t want her to (which I wouldn’t)..but because she has actual morals & would not want to go without her husband. If she decides to go, drop her OP, & just be thankful you did not marry this woman yet.
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Originally Posted By Paul
That's what makes this a little more complex bro. She knows my thoughts on girls trips and invited me along. Being that I do trust her I decided to just let her go then I found out that the friend she is going with cheated on their last trip together in the very same city. So now I am a bit disgusted and doubting the character of her friend. Do I really wany my girl drinking in Miami with her girlfriend who cheated the last time they were there? It just has bad news written all over it.If your woman wants to go on a girls trip without you..she is not a good woman. The only time my wife has taken trips without me are when she has gone with her mother, aunts & grandma…to Oklahoma ..no way in hell would she be going to Miami. Not because I wouldn’t want her to (which I wouldn’t)..but because she has actual morals & would not want to go without her husband. If she decides to go, drop her OP, & just be thankful you did not marry this woman yet.
One thing is for sure, I refuse to change my mind on the trip again and go with her like I'm gonna watch her lol
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