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post 1696516643 01-17-2024, 08:27 AM
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Went through 4 rounds of job interviews only to be told...

that they can't/won't meet my salery expectations. Wtf, thanks for wasting my time fgts.

Told the recruiter my salery expectations right up front + the HM in the 2nd interview, nobody batted an eye.

Another 2 interviews later now they're like nah, can do 130k max. plus we'll fkkn fire you if you don't perform, whatcha think?

Buncha fkkn pinheads, I'm pissed.


Pls share your most ridiculous job interview experience to make me feel better.
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Tell me about it, like these fuking companies thinking I have all the fuking free time in the world.

Fuk them.
post 1696516903 01-17-2024, 08:31 AM
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crazy that you have to apply for jobs in US without knowing base salary in advance
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130k euros is $141k USD. Is that actually low for you lol?

According to this, it's cheaper to live in Hesse than it is to live in Texas. And Texas is one of the cheaper areas.

https://livingcost.org/cost/germany/he
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Originally Posted By ithappenss⏩
crazy that you have to apply for jobs in US without knowing base salary in advance
I'm in Germany brah, but yes. They'll always say 'depending on experience' or some chit, even if you do the exact same fkkn job with the exact same fkkn targets.
Originally Posted By Visel⏩
130k euros is $141k USD. Is that actually low for you lol?

According to this, it's cheaper to live in Hesse than it is to live in Texas. And Texas is one of the cheaper areas.

https://livingcost.org/cost/germany/he
It's a sales gig, so not €130k fixed, but 60/40 or 70/30 at best.
It's not low, but I'm trying to move up.

Would have to risk being kicked out during probation, no telling what the actual pay would be since they don't share any target expectations up front of course and can't know how fukked their delivery and internal processes are.

Car policy is chit as well and the guy said he hates low performers and will do anything to kick them out LMAO.

That's great prospects, chief LOL
post 1696518393 01-17-2024, 09:02 AM
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They were trying to sunk cost fallacy you.

https://thedecisionlab.com/biases/the-sunk-cost-fallacy
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Means they found someone of similar skill that accepted less money and they want you to underbid them.
Originally Posted By Visel⏩
130k euros is $141k USD. Is that actually low for you lol?
130K is chit pay for skilled work.
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Walked in and they sat me at a cubical and gave me a 15 page (front and back) exam before they would even talk to me. Handed it back and told them no thanks.


Had another one tell me they pride themselves on work as late as it take to make deadlines. Hard Pass
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Originally Posted By chrsschb⏩
130K is chit pay for skilled work.
not in Germany
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Don't be so greedy & don't they print the salary in the job advert?
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Originally Posted By chrsschb⏩
Means they found someone of similar skill that accepted less money and they want you to underbid them.



130K is chit pay for skilled work.
That's right. Making 65 dollars an hour is chit pay. How much do u make?
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What are your expectations? If I were unemployed in Germany in this current environment, I think that’s probably an acceptable level of pay.
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Sorry about that brah, that's rough. In an ideal world, corporations wouldn't waste folks' time with these kinds of interviews. Unfortunately, it happens. Close friend of mine was recently interviewed (many rounds) for a nice position in the company. He was qualified and everything, but he was applying internally. Basically, the entire thing was just a jerk off to placate him because they had absolutely no intention of hiring anyone else but an external. It was just HR policy to grant internals an interview no matter what.

Gigantic fuking waste of time and he was right to be very angry.

Take that frustration out on the weights.

In the end, I think you definitely should get your due and pursue what you believe you deserve, while still remaining within the confines of reality. Unrealistic salary expectations might just lead to perpetual frustration. It's a fine line.
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Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
not in Germany
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That's right. Making 65 dollars an hour is chit pay. How much do u make?
Found the unskilled labor.


I made $20/hour as a first year welder straight out of high school in 2003. That same position today pays $18/hr. You guys are getting ran over the coals for some rich schmuck to get richer and you think my logic and rationale is off? lol
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Yeah, employers will do that kinda thing to people. Let this be a good reminder that no job or employer will ever have your back if it's even remotely inconvenient for them. Places treat their even current workers as disposable dogchit, so you should expect no differently when hunting for jobs and interviewing at places.
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Originally Posted By chrsschb⏩
Found the unskilled labor.


I made $20/hour as a first year welder straight out of high school in 2003. That same position today pays $18/hr. You guys are getting ran over the coals for some rich schmuck to get richer and you think my logic and rationale is off? lol
I distinctly remember getting paid 7$ an hour as a dishwasher lol. Absolutely fuking wild times.
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Originally Posted By chrsschb⏩
Found the unskilled labor.


I made $20/hour as a first year welder straight out of high school in 2003. That same position today pays $18/hr. You guys are getting ran over the coals for some rich schmuck to get richer and you think my logic and rationale is off? lol
These things are easy to say when times are good, but that rich schmuck also will keep paying people when times are bad to keep good employees around.

I agree that you should never give any type of loyalty to a large company because they will cut you off without a 2nd thought, but smaller businesses aren't as cutthroat with their employees and will generally keep people on that would be laid off at larger companies.
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin⏩
I distinctly remember getting paid 7$ an hour as a dishwasher lol. Absolutely fuking wild times.
My first job at age 13 was as a disshwasher earning $5.25 per hour. Literally worked my ass off with a bunch of degenerates who were drinking and getting high on the job, and after 2 weeks my check was like $200. Lol.
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Originally Posted By ProudKraut⏩
that they can't/won't meet my salery expectations. Wtf, thanks for wasting my time fgts.

Told the recruiter my salery expectations right up front + the HM in the 2nd interview, nobody batted an eye.

Another 2 interviews later now they're like nah, can do 130k max. plus we'll fkkn fire you if you don't perform, whatcha think?

Buncha fkkn pinheads, I'm pissed.


Pls share your most ridiculous job interview experience to make me feel better.
I was recruited by a consulting firm who told me they wanted someone with industry experience, not another consultant. So I went through 3 rounds of interviews. The last round I took a day off work for a 5 hours in person meeting consisting of 7 45 minute interviews with brief breaks in between. A few days later that told me there was a second finalist they decided to go with because they he had consulting experience.
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens⏩
My first job at age 13 was as a disshwasher earning $5.25 per hour. Literally worked my ass off with a bunch of degenerates who were drinking and getting high on the job, and after 2 weeks my check was like $200. Lol.
In a box of old stuff I recently found a really old pay stub from waaaay back when I was an older teen. It was absolutely horrifying. brb slaving away 40 hours a week and making chump change. Skilled labor is the way to go. We need way more skilled folks especially nowadays. I recently wanted to hire a plumber to fix a few things and he was asking for what I thought was a preposterous amount but later found out it was comparable to what other plumbers charge in these parts. BRB woulda cost me nearly 1k to fix 2 fwarking taps (fixed call price, hourly labor, parts). So I did it myself, fuk it. Thanks, Youtube.

Got a lot of respect for skilled folks. Tradie jokes aside, they're indispensable.
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Originally Posted By chrsschb⏩
Found the unskilled labor.


I made $20/hour as a first year welder straight out of high school in 2003. That same position today pays $18/hr. You guys are getting ran over the coals for some rich schmuck to get richer and you think my logic and rationale is off? lol
So your high school job decreased pay by $2/hr over a 20 year timeline and that means 130k/year is "chit pay" for skilled labor? Thats more than 2x the median income in the USA, and OP is Germany, low COL Germany at that.

Im in the trades, I love the trades and understand the pay structure of many of them. Nothing worse than someone who flexes hyper specialized work that had a 20 year training timeline to get to that pay then turning around and comparing it to office jobs and sales like OP.
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Originally Posted By chrsschb⏩
Found the unskilled labor.


I made $20/hour as a first year welder straight out of high school in 2003. That same position today pays $18/hr. You guys are getting ran over the coals for some rich schmuck to get richer and you think my logic and rationale is off? lol
so what realistic profession do you think makes more than $65/hour in Germany?
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Originally Posted By Muzzdnpress⏩
I can't even get an interview for a 50K job, yet here you are rejecting jobs that are "only" paying you 130K

Just lmao
Once you get first quality one and some experience it's like Domino brah. Just be a bit generous with your CV and story.
Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
They were trying to sunk cost fallacy you.

https://thedecisionlab.com/biases/the-sunk-cost-fallacy
Probably this. Also why do I have to interview with 4 different people on the first place? Does nobody of these kunts have the balls to make a decision?
Originally Posted By chrsschb⏩
Means they found someone of similar skill that accepted less money and they want you to underbid them.



130K is chit pay for skilled work.
Yeah, said they're interviewing a second candidate as well.
Also they're looking for someone who's young (aka cheap) and experienced LOL right.
Originally Posted By PumkinPie⏩
Walked in and they sat me at a cubical and gave me a 15 page (front and back) exam before they would even talk to me. Handed it back and told them no thanks.


Had another one tell me they pride themselves on work as late as it take to make deadlines. Hard Pass
Props for telling them to fukk off. The nerve on some of these fgts...
Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
not in Germany
Right. A buddy of mine is making €180k+ OTE in software sales. But he also has like 3 forecast calls a week.
Originally Posted By OliverHeldens⏩
What are your expectations? If I were unemployed in Germany in this current environment, I think that’s probably an acceptable level of pay.
LOL contrary to most miscers I'm not unemployed, broski. I'm trying to make moves. Current OTE is around 127k and I'm not at risk of getting axed anytime soon.
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Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
so what realistic profession do you think makes more than $65/hour in Germany?
OP is full of chit if he thinks $65 /hr USD isn't great pay in a place like Germany. That's phenomenal pay in 90% of the United States, too. He's also as delusional as a zoomer just entering the workforce to expect any type of loyalty from a company/employer.
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Originally Posted By naich⏩
So your high school job decreased pay by $2/hr over a 20 year timeline and that means 130k/year is "chit pay" for skilled labor?
No, I said pay for skilled labor is decreasing (and gave an example). It's going in the OPPOSITE direction it should be going and because of that the people are suffering while rich get richer. I've seen a regression in the tech sector as a whole, which is likely because with all the layoffs happening, companies can afford to put employees into bidding wars and cut labor costs.

But yes, 130K for skilled labor is meh. It was meh pre-covid and it's definitely meh post-covid with 100% inflation.

I'm the tech-nerd with a plethora of tradie friends. They might work more hours but their paychecks look A LOT better at the end of the week (and a lot of time I wouldn't mind some overtime).
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Originally Posted By nothingshocking⏩
I was recruited by a consulting firm who told me they wanted someone with industry experience, not another consultant. So I went through 3 rounds of interviews. The last round I took a day off work for a 5 hours in person meeting consisting of 7 45 minute interviews with brief breaks in between. A few days later that told me there was a second finalist they decided to go with because they he had consulting experience.
Ayyyyyyyyye lmao

They would want me to come onsite for a 'final' meeting in person, too if I accepted their lowball offer and other ridiculous demands.
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Originally Posted By ProudKraut⏩
Right. A buddy of mine is making €180k+ OTE in software sales. But he also has like 3 forecast calls a week.
you can't admit 130k is a very good salery for Germany or something?

also you're in the top % of saleries and you're amazed you have to do an interview with 4 different people

not even sure what you're trying to achieve here tbh
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin⏩
Sorry about that brah, that's rough. In an ideal world, corporations wouldn't waste folks' time with these kinds of interviews. Unfortunately, it happens. Close friend of mine was recently interviewed (many rounds) for a nice position in the company. He was qualified and everything, but he was applying internally. Basically, the entire thing was just a jerk off to placate him because they had absolutely no intention of hiring anyone else but an external. It was just HR policy to grant internals an interview no matter what.

Gigantic fuking waste of time and he was right to be very angry.

Take that frustration out on the weights.

In the end, I think you definitely should get your due and pursue what you believe you deserve, while still remaining within the confines of reality. Unrealistic salary expectations might just lead to perpetual frustration. It's a fine line.
Thx breh. Yeah 'moving up internally' is the biggest scam ever, but gladly I knew that early.

Fried of mine busted his azz at our former company for a promotion and ended up making like 10% more. Meanwhile I jumped ship and literally doubled my salery.
He left like 2 months after and did the same.
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Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
you can't admit 130k is a very good salery for Germany or something?

also you're in the top 3% of saleries or something and you're amazed you have to do an interview with 4 different people

not even sure what you're trying to achieve here tbh
I already said it's not a bad salery brochacho in like my 2nd post.
But it's not unreasonably high in any way in tech sales and as I also already said: I'm trying to move up and clearly stated my salery expectations from the very start. They played along and told me to get fukked after 4 rounds of unnecessary interviews when they already knew from the start that they wouldn't pay me.

Case in point is why would I leave my secure job that makes pretty much that exact same salery and accept this other job where I will be on probation, the company is 'restructuring' and the guy straight up told me that he hates low performers and will do anything in his power to kick them out.

Only an idiot or someone desperate would accept that chit deal.
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Haven't had to interview for my last 4 jobs which have all been 6 figs (dfs). It's much better if you know someone to can say you're not a POS and just bypass interviews. Before that, I've never had any career positions give me more than a single interview. Hope this helps boyo
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