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post 1699644643 03-24-2024, 10:34 AM
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There seems to be a low key ground level revolt in American Conservatism

In the broad sense, American Conservatism, as large umbrella for many different groups and identities, there is starting to be a pivot against Israel and Zionism. It is definitely not the establishment Republicans, NeoCons, and such, however, some murmurs of discontent are taking place. Voices that would not have dared say a negative word about Israel/Zionism are starting to say something, in fact some are getting pretty loud. This is a good development because for an anti-Zionist like myself it was very tough associating with feminists, homosexuals, progressives, etc. I really hope this burgeoning trend continues.
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Originally Posted By DDSF1⏩
In the broad sense, American Conservatism, as large umbrella for many different groups and identities, there is starting to be a pivot against Israel and Zionism. It is definitely not the establishment Republicans, NeoCons, and such, however, some murmurs of discontent are taking place. Voices that would not have dared say a negative word about Israel/Zionism are starting to say something, in fact some are getting pretty loud. This is a good development because for an anti-Zionist like myself it was very tough associating with feminists, homosexuals, progressives, etc. I really hope this burgeoning trend continues.
Because the Jews socially and politically conditioned Conservatives to keep accepting a more docile "new normal" over the case of decades.

"Live and Let Live" showed what happens when you become apathetic to the changing world around you.
The Era of Great Noticing has begun.
Modern liberalism is morally bankrupt and demonic.
Right wing politics is the new counter-culture.
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post 1699645043 03-24-2024, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
Because the Jews socially and politically conditioned Conservatives to keep accepting a more docile "new normal" over the case of decades.

"Live and Let Live" showed what happens when you become apathetic to the changing world around you.
Doesn't the live and let live saying apply more to libertarians though? Conservatives...true conservatives would be fighting to keep traditional norms.
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Originally Posted By Fishman15⏩
Doesn't the live and let live saying apply more to libertarians though? Conservatives...true conservatives would be fighting to keep traditional norms.
I've heard Live and Let Live be used by plenty of Conservatives, but ideologically, I'd agree it aligns with Libertards.

Conservatives have largely been conditioned to be docile towards politics.
The Era of Great Noticing has begun.
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post 1699647663 03-24-2024, 11:47 AM
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Social media has exposed the "self defense " claims made by Israel as bullsh*t and they are seeing the genocide being committed
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bump, for further discussion.
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i honestly don't know about the jew hating stuff or where/why it started.

what i do know is people have reached their limit with being told how to think or act.
most people just ignored it.
but now it has gotten to the point where it's in their face and annoying AF and now they are done with it.

cancel culture is starting to get mocked while go woke, go broke is picking up steam.
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Trump is extremely Zionist so don't expect anything to change. Israel has captured the US government.

Regarding live and let live, Israel isn't doing that. They are living and letting die. Instead of James Bond, you have Satanyahu rolling around carrying out genocide.
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Originally Posted By Fishman15⏩
Doesn't the live and let live saying apply more to libertarians though? Conservatives...true conservatives would be fighting to keep traditional norms.
The problem is that even if cuckservatives are fighting to keep traditional norms, they're only advocating for what was the norm 10-30 years ago, which keeps changing since the demoncrats are actually pushing the country towards it's progressive agenda. Cuckservatives don't have any vision or ideas on how to fix the country, they only want to "preserve" the present state of things while the demoncrats want to progress more.

The cuckservative position today is what the demoncrat position would have been 10 years ago. 10 years from now cuckservatives will be the same as the demoncrats of today.

Sad and pathetic ideology that has not accomplished any wins in multiple decades.
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Originally Posted By Islandboyo⏩
The problem is that even if cuckservatives are fighting to keep traditional norms, they're only advocating for what was the norm 10-30 years ago, which keeps changing since the demoncrats are actually pushing the country towards it's progressive agenda. Cuckservatives don't have any vision or ideas on how to fix the country, they only want to "preserve" the present state of things while the demoncrats want to progress more.

The cuckservative position today is what the demoncrat position would have been 10 years ago. 10 years from now cuckservatives will be the same as the demoncrats of today.

Sad and pathetic ideology that has not accomplished any wins in multiple decades.
I have noticed that many "conservatives" are more feminist than self-proclaimed feminists from the progressive camp.
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People like leonydus/zelensky/polaris shot the whole anti-zionist movement in the foot because they take it to lengths that are indicative of an underdeveloped pre-frontal cortex. I say this because anyone that doesnt understand history is doomed to fail, their rage takes over. Theyve created blurred lines among being anti-Foreign Aid (Israel) and trying to repeat what the 3rd reich failed to do, which also used propaganda to get people to believe in their cause. People are too connected now with too many sources for that to even happen again.

Not only that, but now independents are forced to choose between genocidal idiots and purple haired trannys when they look at the extremes of both sides.

People dont really understand the USA-Israeli relationship and nobody makes threads about it because nobody really cares. Theres a strong R&D alliance that creates the worlds latest technology- I can already sense the steam coming out of zelensky's ears as I type this, but it is what it is and it has nothing to do whether someone likes or hates israeli jews. Would be good if we could distance ourselves in that sense/reliance but I dont foresee that happening especially with AIPAC around, unfortunately.
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Originally Posted By uneducated⏩
Trump is extremely Zionist so don't expect anything to change. Israel has captured the US government.

Regarding live and let live, Israel isn't doing that. They are living and letting die. Instead of James Bond, you have Satanyahu rolling around carrying out genocide.
Is he? I don't think he's ever held any sort of actual philosophical or political belief. He doesn't care. It's just about self-aggrandisement.


He's described people as "very fine people" who shout 'Jews will not replace us!' and he also said Israel needs to get on with it, as if to blame them for the war. He plays both sides on a whim.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Is he? I don't think he's ever held any sort of actual philosophical or political belief. He doesn't care. It's just about self-aggrandisement.


He's described people as "very fine people" who shout 'Jews will not replace us!' and he also said Israel needs to get on with it, as if to blame them for the war. He plays both sides on a whim.
He has pledged his support to Israel. He was also the one who recognized the capital as Jerusalem. He caved to Zionist donors after being booed in 2015 when he suggested there could be a peace deal. He also went along with Netanyahu on opposing the Iran nuclear deal.
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Originally Posted By DDSF1⏩
I have noticed that many "conservatives" are more feminist than self-proclaimed feminists from the progressive camp.
I wouldn't use traditional values as a way to describe what cuckservatives are trying to conserve either. They're trying to conserve a moment of time in America from a decade ago, but even then America lacked any traditional values.

Traditional values have never been embraced in America as far as American society goes. America, from its inception, has been a liberal country totally opposed to traditionalism.

Believing in equality, and elevating the individual over the community, is the opposite of traditionalism.
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Originally Posted By Islandboyo⏩
I wouldn't use traditional values as a way to describe what cuckservatives are trying to conserve either. They're trying to conserve a moment of time in America from a decade ago, but even then America lacked any traditional values.

Traditional values have never been embraced in America as far as American society goes. America, from its inception, has been a liberal country totally opposed to traditionalism.

Believing in equality, and elevating the individual over the community, is the opposite of traditionalism.
No, no, no. You're doing nazism wrong, Tucker. You're not supposed to disparage American values. You're supposed to pretend to be the true patriot defending those values while you systematically and gradually dismantle them. Tsk tsk.
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Originally Posted By uneducated⏩
No, no, no. You're doing nazism wrong, Tucker. You're not supposed to disparage American values. You're supposed to pretend to be the true patriot defending those values while you systematically and gradually dismantle them. Tsk tsk.
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It’s a good development. The dispensationalists are a huge problem though.

Candace Owen’s beefing with rabbi shmuley was funny. He got Shapiro to fire her. Then he dressed up in a money shirt, with stickers that say jew on them, and a fake long nose to celebrate. He’s done more to push anti semitism than any non jew ever could. Plus him selling sex toys with his daughter is disgusting…. Not sure what the argument is against that.
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So you're telling me that this guy isnt your dear leader?

People like this confuse me.. it's like he figured out a demographic to buy his snake oil and is giving them the middle finger at the same time. Pro-jew Trump flag? Lmao. (in reality Trump is just pro-USA)
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