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post 1700022323 04-16-2024, 10:37 PM
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Most recent Rogan podcast is lulzy



Cliffs:

- Graham has been on the podcast a dozen times before. He has a bunch of wacky theories about ancient advanced civilizations here on earth.

- It always sounds fishy but no normal person has the data to dispute most of his claims.

- Joe finally invites a real archaeologist in to debate Graham

- Dude clearly knows his stuff even though he's eccentric. Demolishes most of Graham's nonsense.

- Two hours in, it evolves into Graham basically turning into a prick and Joe is clearly starting to doubt him.

Won't be that entertaining if you aren't a regular listener. But this basically blew up Rogan's longest running guest, who almost surely won't be back on.
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Interesting - I did like ancient apocalypse although I recognize some of the stuff was pure conjecture.

The thing is, archaeologists also operate on conjecture, maybe not as out there as him. And they were BTFO bigly by the discovery of Göbekli Tepe - so I appreciate Graham questioning them even if some of his chit is a bit wacky
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Take a shot every time he says Gobekli Tepe
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lol looking fwd to this. Always funny that Joe believes every single guest with an exciting conspiracy theory.

Like that fruitcake Bob Lazar
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Haven't listened to this podcast yet, but lol at this little fukkin hobbit dressing up in Gandolf's clothes:







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Where do you guys watch these? I usually can only find clips and old episodes on youtube.
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
lol looking fwd to this. Always funny that Joe believes every single guest with an exciting conspiracy theory.

Like that fruitcake Bob Lazar
Do you find Bob Lazar legit or just a grifter? (or mentally ill?)
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Where do you guys watch these? I usually can only find clips and old episodes on youtube.
Evidently this youtube channel is posting full episodes... I had to stop lis7tening to JRE when he went to shatify and I couldn't access downloadable mp3s to listen in car.



I guess hes back?



https://www.youtube.com/@joerogan/videosfor full eps
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Graham Hancock has always been that wacky guy you want to be leaf but have to take with a grain of salt because he’s mostly talking out his ass. He isn’t a trained archeologist or anthropologist, just an old journalist who got bored and started writing books about ancient civilizations.
Originally Posted By Luc1fer
lol looking fwd to this. Always funny that Joe believes every single guest with an exciting conspiracy theory.

Like that fruitcake Bob Lazar
Bob Lazar is the biggest bullchit artist. I lost respect for Rogan when he started promoting that lunatic and Jeremy Corbell. The entire episode Lazar was complaining about “migraines” every time he was asked a technical question. Come to find out, his prediction of element 115 has been theorized by physicists for decades and an article about the hypothetical element was published in Scientific American a couple months before he made up his story (ded fkin srs). Not to mention Lazar got arrested in the 90s for putting cameras in the women’s bathroom lol. He has no credibility. The government didn’t erase his educational records. They couldn’t have secretly confiscated every yearbook and erased his classmate’s memories of him. Nope. He’s just a liar.
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Tldr:

Bunch of nerds who have no clue but take guesses and have no proof of anything.
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585
Bob Lazar is the biggest bullchit artist. I lost respect for Rogan when he started promoting that lunatic and Jeremy Corbell. The entire episode Lazar was complaining about “migraines” every time he was asked a technical question. Come to find out, his prediction of element 115 has been theorized by physicists for decades and an article about the hypothetical element was published in Scientific American a couple months before he made up his story (ded fkin srs). Not to mention Lazar got arrested in the 90s for putting cameras in the women’s bathroom lol. He has no credibility. The government didn’t erase his educational records. They couldn’t have secretly confiscated every yearbook and erased his classmate’s memories of him. Nope. He’s just a liar.
Lmao I had listened to that episode where he was complaining how his migraine was so bad he couldnt remember and how painful it was emotionally basically for him to talk about this but he just has to let people know the truth. Loved his bullchit stories about guys flying the craft with no instruments that they could barely fit in. I believe his story was that that was a "crash" recovery when they found the vehicle, they couldnt explain how it worked but could operate it and use the transparent panels to see out of it... retarded chit

Didn't know about the being arrested for putting camera in a womens bathroom but really not suprising
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Originally Posted By MarioMiami305
Tldr:

Bunch of nerds who have no clue but take guesses and have no proof of anything.
Pretty much nailed it. I used to love this stuff in my early 20s, I see now its mostly complete bullshiet. Neither of them have any idea what it was really like back in the ice age.
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I find it peculiar that even though humanity has allegedly been on earth for hundreds of thousands of years, it's only the last 8000 years that civilization has exist.
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon


Cliffs:

- Graham has been on the podcast a dozen times before. He has a bunch of wacky theories about ancient advanced civilizations here on earth.

- It always sounds fishy but no normal person has the data to dispute most of his claims.

- Joe finally invites a real archaeologist in to debate Graham

- Dude clearly knows his stuff even though he's eccentric. Demolishes most of Graham's nonsense.

- Two hours in, it evolves into Graham basically turning into a prick and Joe is clearly starting to doubt him.

Won't be that entertaining if you aren't a regular listener. But this basically blew up Rogan's longest running guest, who almost surely won't be back on.
Just finished the episode. I disagree with your assessment.

I don't think either of them really won on the content.

1. Dibble was focused solely on his specific field and evidence, which is good since that is his wheelhouse. However, he was referencing European archeological evidence and other evidence from northern latitudes. This has rarely if ever been used by Hancock in support of his theory with the exception of the location of "impacts" from his associated impact theory regarding the Younger Dryas.

2. Hancock's main argument with archeology in general is that it is dismissive of any theories and evidence that is contradictory to the established paradigm. Furthermore, Hancock provided evidence of baseless and ad hominem attacks, many directly linked to Dibble, that supports his argument that mainstream archeology is dismissive at best and slanderous/libelous at worst.

3. Bonus goes to the agricultural evidence that Dibble shared which was super interesting.

Solid episode. It is one that must be watched to really appreciate. Especially since the Dibble character looks like an actual character. Also, Graham messes with/switches between, what seems like no less than three different pairs of glasses that he uses depending on what he's looking at and how far away it is from his face.

10/10 episode and I LOL'd several times because of the antics.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe
I find it peculiar that even though humanity has allegedly been on earth for hundreds of thousands of years, it's only the last 8000 years that civilization has exist.
dont you find it even more peculiar that inorganic material mysteriously became organic
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Originally Posted By viccruise420
Lmao I had listened to that episode where he was complaining how his migraine was so bad he couldnt remember and how painful it was emotionally basically for him to talk about this but he just has to let people know the truth. Loved his bullchit stories about guys flying the craft with no instruments that they could barely fit in. I believe his story was that that was a "crash" recovery when they found the vehicle, they couldnt explain how it worked but could operate it and use the transparent panels to see out of it... retarded chit
Weird, I actually remember that piece too - he got upset whenever asked deeper questions and even Joe was showing sympathy. The documentary (Netflix?) is even more ridiculous.
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Where do you guys watch these? I usually can only find clips and old episodes on youtube.
Any podcast app, JRE feed is back open.
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hes a grifter. no one that actually studies this stuff takes him seriously.
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"archaeologist" cant even agree what a dinosaur looks like. they basically just make things up and speculate. first they look like lizards then no they look like birds. next they'll look like fish.


The archaeologist on that podcast is in an inherently biased position, if he agrees with anything the "wacky conspiracy theorist" claims then he will be blacklisted from his industry, he will never get grants or funding again and will have to go work at Costco.
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Originally Posted By chalup
Pretty much nailed it. I used to love this stuff in my early 20s, I see now its mostly complete bullshiet. Neither of them have any idea what it was really like back in the ice age.
bingo, but one of them gets all the "respect" and taken seriously by the general population. Most of what is claimed as "science" these days is a hoax.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe
I find it peculiar that even though humanity has allegedly been on earth for hundreds of thousands of years, it's only the last 8000 years that civilization has exist.
Yeah if chimps are 98% human these cavemen from 200,000 years ago were 99.99% human yet they have no written history and apparently just grunted at each other didnt write anything down ect. It seems like bull****.


I bet my entire net worth these cavemen would have higher IQs than some of the dingers in the chicago projects these days.
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Ooof I got him confused with Paul Stamets the mushroom guy
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Lmao just fukking lmao @op

You got it ass backwards. That smarmy little weasel tried to use every trick in the book and yet Hancock dick slapped him right in the cock. Watch out your comments bro.
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Hancock & Bauval have become very rich peddling their nonsense-they really are on a par with von Daniken, Sitchin, Leigh, Baigent & Lincoln for bs brainwashing the masses.
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Originally Posted By chalup
dont you find it even more peculiar that inorganic material mysteriously became organic
very peculiar
Originally Posted By elterrible987
Yeah if chimps are 98% human these cavemen from 200,000 years ago were 99.99% human yet they have no written history and apparently just grunted at each other didnt write anything down ect. It seems like bull****.


I bet my entire net worth these cavemen would have higher IQs than some of the dingers in the chicago projects these days.
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LMAO that was painful to watch.
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Originally Posted By Peacening
Lmao just fukking lmao @op

You got it ass backwards. That smarmy little weasel tried to use every trick in the book and yet Hancock dick slapped him right in the cock. Watch out your comments bro.
Graham's first argument showed exactly how the episode went

G: "how much of the Sahara have we actually excavated?"
F: "lots of it. We have ground penetrating radar, lidar, site surveys, digs...."
G: "that's not my question. How much have we dug? We haven't dug the whole thing"
F: "We don't need to, we have technology that tells us where-"
G: "See, you haven't dug it all"
F: "No, I have not personally dug up the entire Sahara desert"

Graham's whole schtick is just claiming that nobody has looked hard enough to prove him right. You can use that to argue anything. Leprechauns might be real but we just haven't dug up enough of Ireland to prove it yet.
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Lolwut??


Only an hour in and the guy hasn’t disproven anything. All he has is “well we’ve found evidence of people from that time that weren’t very advanced so it means no people were advanced back then”. He also tried to paint people in his field as crusaders of truth who are open to all possibilities, which Graham immediately showed was basically the opposite of the truth with multiple examples and quotes from various people. Then Graham shows some things that were somewhat advanced(as far as stone carving and structure is concerned) most likely made by humans….and the guy just laughs and goes “omg there’s no reason to think that was made by humans”. I do think Graham hasn’t taken the best approach to debate so far in, but has done alright. And I do appreciate the other guests knowledge of the field, though not necessarily his insistence on dismissing everything that doesn’t fit with the narrative(again the opposite of the picture he tried to paint in his opening statements).


Also remember that the last person on there who debated Hancock was Michael Shermer; a very intelligent person who is a world-renowned skeptic of basically all things not 100% proven. They spent hours talking about the Younger Dryas impact theory that Hancock and Carlson helped develop and promote. Shermer walked away still a skeptic, but has since publicly come around to their view stated he thinks they were/are almost certainly right with that hypothesis(as has a number of scientists that grows everyday). So it’s not like Hancock is just some kook….he's actually doing a type of investigation and pushing ideas forward, some of which have already been basically proven true.



Maybe the conversation takes some twists and turns along the way which paint a different picture, but so far poor man’s Indiana Jones hasn’t disproven anything.
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon
Graham's first argument showed exactly how the episode went

G: "how much of the Sahara have we actually excavated?"
F: "lots of it. We have ground penetrating radar, lidar, site surveys, digs...."
G: "that's not my question. How much have we dug? We haven't dug the whole thing"
F: "We don't need to, we have technology that tells us where-"
G: "See, you haven't dug it all"
F: "No, I have not personally dug up the entire Sahara desert"

Graham's whole schtick is just claiming that nobody has looked hard enough to prove him right. You can use that to argue anything. Leprechauns might be real but we just haven't dug up enough of Ireland to prove it yet.
If that’s your interpretation of Graham’s point you might actually have sh!t for brains. We have studied a tiny, TINY fraction of Earth in any meaningful way. That is obvious, and a good point to bring up. And out of the infinitesimal amount that we have looked into, we’ve managed to find some pretty interesting things that continue to push the timeline for human development back further and further.


As someone mentioned above, as a species we’ve been walking around with these brains for over 100,000 years but we’re supposed to think that for 95,000 we were legit retards running around but then suddenly started figuring things out a few thousand years ago and ended up where we are today.


Also, out of curiosity, did the guest ever address the point that there are ancient maps showing rivers in Africa in areas that have been desert for around 10,000 years….which we can now confirm were accurate because we can see that there used to be rivers in those places?
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Bumped to share this from the last person who debated Hancock on Rogan’s podcast.



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