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07-26-2024, 08:10 PM
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Pew Research: 37% of people under 50 childless in 2018; 47% in 2023
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Becky Hayden and her husband, Seth, have spent 21 years of marriage being fully active members of their community in California.
The Haydens have run a local scholarship program, they have kept a closetful of prom dresses to loan out to students in need, they are mentors in their community — and they have never had kids of their own.
“A lot of people make the assumption because we don’t have kids, we’re not fulfilled,” Becky Hayden said. “And it’s not right.”
The proportion of adults in the United States younger than 50 years old who do not have children is growing — leaping from 37% in 2018 to 47% in 2023, according to a new Pew Research Center survey published Thursday.
The new Pew study comes as comments resurfaced from Ohio Sen. JD Vance, the Republican candidate for vice president, who told former Fox News host Tucker Carlson in 2021 that the country was being run by “a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they’ve made and so they want to make the rest of the country miserable, too.”
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Becky Hayden and her husband, Seth, have spent 21 years of marriage being fully active members of their community in California.
The Haydens have run a local scholarship program, they have kept a closetful of prom dresses to loan out to students in need, they are mentors in their community — and they have never had kids of their own.
“A lot of people make the assumption because we don’t have kids, we’re not fulfilled,” Becky Hayden said. “And it’s not right.”
The proportion of adults in the United States younger than 50 years old who do not have children is growing — leaping from 37% in 2018 to 47% in 2023, according to a new Pew Research Center survey published Thursday.
The new Pew study comes as comments resurfaced from Ohio Sen. JD Vance, the Republican candidate for vice president, who told former Fox News host Tucker Carlson in 2021 that the country was being run by “a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they’ve made and so they want to make the rest of the country miserable, too.”
07-26-2024, 08:21 PM
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Interesting topic; uninteresting article.
On the other hand if you don't want children because you have some goal in life you're passionate about and having kids will drag you down from it, then I can get behind that.
“It is completely normal and valid to not want to have children,” said licensed psychologist Dr. Linda Baggett, owner of Well Woman Psychology in Manhattan Beach, California, in an email. “I think current generations are feeling more empowered to be open about and act on this preference, whereas in past generations people may have been more likely to have children anyway due to societal expectations, economic/labor factors, and religious beliefs.
A lot of suppositions and conjecture on why people "may have" had children. No mention of societal factors of eternal manchildren and bitchbabies/femchildren. A lot of cultural and societal factors are present in people not wanting kids. At the end of the day you see a fukton of people utilizing coping mechanisms to placate their paternal instincts itching and baby rabies. There isn't much virtue in choosing to be a Dog Mom/Dog Dad over having human babies. When you see women pushing tiny dogs around in strollers you start wondering what the fuk is really going through their heads.On the other hand if you don't want children because you have some goal in life you're passionate about and having kids will drag you down from it, then I can get behind that.
07-26-2024, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted By DolphinPilot⏩
for most of my life i never remember doggos and kitties taking the place of children like they do now. i know a 45 yr old woman, overweight, atheist, unmarried with a long term bf....says children are crotch spawn and she has 7 cats.Interesting topic; uninteresting article.
A lot of suppositions and conjecture on why people "may have" had children. No mention of societal factors of eternal manchildren and bitchbabies/femchildren. A lot of cultural and societal factors are present in people not wanting kids. At the end of the day you see a fukton of people utilizing coping mechanisms to placate their paternal instincts itching and baby rabies. There isn't much virtue in choosing to be a Dog Mom/Dog Dad over having human babies. When you see women pushing tiny dogs around in strollers you start wondering what the fuk is really going through their heads.
On the other hand if you don't want children because you have some goal in life you're passionate about and having kids will drag you down from it, then I can get behind that.
A lot of suppositions and conjecture on why people "may have" had children. No mention of societal factors of eternal manchildren and bitchbabies/femchildren. A lot of cultural and societal factors are present in people not wanting kids. At the end of the day you see a fukton of people utilizing coping mechanisms to placate their paternal instincts itching and baby rabies. There isn't much virtue in choosing to be a Dog Mom/Dog Dad over having human babies. When you see women pushing tiny dogs around in strollers you start wondering what the fuk is really going through their heads.
On the other hand if you don't want children because you have some goal in life you're passionate about and having kids will drag you down from it, then I can get behind that.
07-26-2024, 08:50 PM
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Maybe by this year or next it will be more rare to be under 50 WITH a child than without.
07-26-2024, 08:53 PM
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Folks tend to put this on the individuals, when there are massive societal factors at play. For example, the near-complete erosion of traditional gender roles has caused an immeasurable amount of harm to the stable, well-functioning nuclear family. Should also take into account that lopsided family courts have added a MASSIVE level of risk, usually solely on the male, when it comes to having children & getting married. Another one would be how promiscuity has been normailzed among young people. This is especially damaging to young women, who will struggle to pair-bond as their number of sexual partners increase. The middle class is shrinking. Cost of living going up. Student loan debt is astronomical. All of that has been happening for quite some time. Its a cultural issue, not an individual issue. I personally believe that its deliberate. All part of the plan. But its really not as simple as"go get married, buy a house and have a few kids."Those days have long passed. Follow that game plan in today's society and there's a good chance you'll quickly find yourself in a really bad spot.
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07-26-2024, 08:55 PM
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[QUOTE=DonVonDuck post_id=1704203791]Folks tend to put this on the individuals, when there are massive societal factors at play. For example, the near-complete erosion of traditional gender roles has caused an immeasurable amount of harm to the stable, well-functioning nuclear family. Should also take into account that lopsided family courts have added a MASSIVE level of risk, usually solely on the male, when it comes to having children & getting married. Another one would be how promiscuity has been normailzed among young people. This is especially damaging to young women, who will struggle to pair-bond as their number of sexual partners increase. The middle class is shrinking. Cost of living going up. Student loan debt is astronomical. All of that has been happening for quite some time. It's a cultural issue, not an individual issue. I personally believe that it's deliberate. All part of the plan. But its really not as simple as [i]"go get married, buy a house and have a few kids."[i/] Those days have long passed. Follow that game plan and you'll quickly find yourself in a really bad spot.[/QUOTE]some good stuff to consider here. been a push for a long time to go to college (debt) and then spend one's 20s and even early-mid 30s trying to "find yourself"...casual sex, drinks after work/weekend, day tripping/traveling, etc. in a prior time marriage/family was basically the #1 priority after high school.
07-26-2024, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted By MeSoHawny⏩
perhaps they know those of color will be easier to control once the whites completely stop breeding.Dont worry they will just import ****** and Africans to keep the population numbers up so that your tax dollars can be spent protecting Israel
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
that **** irks me real bad, too. There is a new subculture of antinatalism that is just cringe and obnoxious. One of my neighbors has this bumper sticker on his car:for most of my life i never remember doggos and kitties taking the place of children like they do now. i know a 45 yr old woman, overweight, atheist, unmarried with a long term bf....says children are crotch spawnand she has 7 cats.

For what it's worth he is 300 lbs and looks like he browses reddit all day.
A co-worker tells another co-worker they are having kids, 2nd co-worker says "Oh, so you're abreeder, huh?" This odd kind of disgust for doing what we are biologically compelled to do. I can't understand it.
07-26-2024, 09:26 PM
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White Zoomer birth rate will be like 0.3 per woman. It's over
07-26-2024, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted By DolphinPilot⏩
THAT is the words she uses "crotch goblins". I was telling my girl that that this woman is likely depressed from being unmarried, fat, no kids and all that probably plays a part in her atheism/views towards kids considering she's 45 and that ship has long sailed for her. Probably the same thing for your neighbor. if you know you're never going to have any semblance of the traditional life you might be more open to "hating" it as a way of coping. could also explain why i see so many of those angry cat women/men supporting democrats in comment sectionsthat **** irks me real bad, too. There is a new subculture of antinatalism that is just cringe and obnoxious. One of my neighbors has this bumper sticker on his car:

For what it's worth he is 300 lbs and looks like he browses reddit all day.
A co-worker tells another co-worker they are having kids, 2nd co-worker says "Oh, so you're abreeder, huh?" This odd kind of disgust for doing what we are biologically compelled to do. I can't understand it.

For what it's worth he is 300 lbs and looks like he browses reddit all day.
A co-worker tells another co-worker they are having kids, 2nd co-worker says "Oh, so you're abreeder, huh?" This odd kind of disgust for doing what we are biologically compelled to do. I can't understand it.
07-26-2024, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted By BrianDaMan⏩
trying to explain to someone in 1950 that the white race basically went away within the next 100 years...."what happened, a world war...a race war?!?". Naw man we just stopped having kids. They probably say "wtf"White Zoomer birth rate will be like 0.3 per woman. It's over
07-26-2024, 10:02 PM
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what are we supposed to do, have children by force?
it's "modern" women that are the problem
it's "modern" women that are the problem
07-26-2024, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted By MiscMathematician⏩
Unfortunately the case and women are too fickle so they follow whatever media tells them too.what are we supposed to do, have children by force?
it's "modern" women that are the problem
it's "modern" women that are the problem
We need to get back to traditional values and the nuclear family.
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07-26-2024, 10:14 PM
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Many people shouldn't have kids. They lack the education, the finances, and the aptitude to raise a child properly.
When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.
07-26-2024, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Krackerjacked⏩
and that probably involves sorta shunning degenerate things...tattoos, talk about smoking weed/drugs, porn, bragging about casual sex, gambling, etc.Unfortunately the case and women are too fickle so they follow whatever media tells them too.
We need to get back to traditional values and the nuclear family.
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We need to get back to traditional values and the nuclear family.
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
Send it.and that probably involves sorta shunning degenerate things...tattoos, talk about smoking weed/drugs, porn, bragging about casual sex, gambling, etc.
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07-26-2024, 10:39 PM
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Did they only survey whites and Asians? Seems like Pookie and Ray Ray and hector and Carlos all have litters of kids so that number might be skewed.
07-26-2024, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted By stevemckenna⏩
yeah the number could already be well over 50% of whites under 50 with no childrenDid they only survey whites and Asians? Seems like Pookie and Ray Ray and hector and Carlos all have litters of kids so that number might be skewed.
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The average miscer wont help lol
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
Then they would start ranting about disliking the Italians or the Irish or something like that, since the modern idea of whites as a solid bloc didn't exist back then.trying to explain to someone in 1950 that the white race basically went away within the next 100 years...."what happened, a world war...a race war?!?". Naw man we just stopped having kids. They probably say "wtf"
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Maybe cause cost of food, healthcare, childcare, housing is out of control?
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Originally Posted By 6gorillion⏩
Why is it out of control? Could it be that your country is flooded with third world scum who drive down wages and pay no taxes? Could it be that women have flooded the workplace driving down wages? Could it be that boomers shipped off entire industries to third world countries so that they could make a few extra bucks selling you trinkets?Maybe cause cost of food, healthcare, childcare, housing is out of control?
The west lost the war in 1945. You are just seeing the final stages of it as its overrun by barbarians and decaying from the inside out now.
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feminsm ,inflation,media ,whorism ... all adds up .... 20 to 50 years from now ... i guess asians,arabs,africans and indians will be the ones taking over this world
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Originally Posted By MeSoHawny⏩
All of those, but it's especially accelerated since 2020 due to all the trillions they printed recklessly during the covid lockdown bullchit.Why is it out of control? Could it be that your country is flooded with third world scum who drive down wages and pay no taxes? Could it be that women have flooded the workplace driving down wages? Could it be that boomers shipped off entire industries to third world countries so that they could make a few extra bucks selling you trinkets?
The west lost the war in 1945. You are just seeing the final stages of it as its overrun by barbarians and decaying from the inside out now.
The west lost the war in 1945. You are just seeing the final stages of it as its overrun by barbarians and decaying from the inside out now.
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