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08-03-2024, 07:16 PM

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I'm thinking about getting back into playing. I used to have a 2005 Double Cutaway Les Paul (not studio) and a MIM Telecaster. I liked both of course. I am having a hard time deciding which route to go again. I would get both an American Tele and a Les Paul Standard, but I don't want to drop 4k on guitars at the moment. I always wanted a Rickenbacker but decided against it.

I'm more into bluesy rock like The Black Keys, even Tool and Soundgarden. I assume the Les Paul would still work for the Keys, but then the Tele is probably better suited for them whereas the Les Paul is better suited for the heavier stuff. What y'all think?

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08-03-2024, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted By MagnificentKunt⏩

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True, EagleofWar too or something like that.

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08-03-2024, 07:24 PM

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Tool definitely uses Gibsons.

Not a fan of MIM fenders.

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08-03-2024, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted By hendrixfreak70⏩

I'm thinking about getting back into playing. I used to have a 2005 Double Cutaway Les Paul (not studio) and a MIM Telecaster. I liked both of course. I am having a hard time deciding which route to go again. I would get both an American Tele and a Les Paul Standard, but I don't want to drop 4k on guitars at the moment. I always wanted a Rickenbacker but decided against it.

I'm more into bluesy rock like The Black Keys, even Tool and Soundgarden. I assume the Les Paul would still work for the Keys, but then the Tele is probably better suited for them whereas the Les Paul is better suited for the heavier stuff. What y'all think?

Get an Epiphone if you don't want the shell out the money for a Gibson the new stuff is plenty good. Epiphone makes a silver burst Les Paul Custom that looks killer.

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08-03-2024, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩

Tool definitely uses Gibsons.

Indeed. When I played Tool years ago, it was with the Les Paul.

Not a fan of MIM fenders.

I think my tube amp made all the difference. I also had a MIM Strat too.

If I had to pick a style I liked best to play years ago, it was blues-rock.

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08-03-2024, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted By hendrixfreak70⏩

. I assume the Les Paul would still work for the Keys, but then the Tele is probably better suited for them whereas the Les Paul is better suited for the heavier stuff. What y'all think?

Howdy 70….

Based on the above, I'd go with the Tele.
Plus, it will weight less.

If I were asked, I'd say "play it before you buy it" to be sure and pay what it's worth to you.
The Telecaster is also the most versatile.
The genre you play determines what route you consider..

My Tele (1977 Ibanez Silver Series) has always been my workhorse but I only categorize myself as a song writer/rhythm player…..not a shredder.
It suits what style I like and how I write.

Keep us informed.

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08-03-2024, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted By hendrixfreak70⏩

I think my tube amp made all the difference. I also had a MIM Strat too.

If I had to pick a style I liked best to play years ago, it was blues-rock.

They both make a difference. I design, manufacture, and sell both tube amps and guitars. I'm not a purist by any means, but the Epiphone guitars are better than the MIM fenders IMO. I love a good ash/alder super strat as much as the next guy, but given your constraints I agree that an epiphone would be great for you.

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08-03-2024, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩

They both make a difference. I design, manufacture, and sell both tube amps and guitars. I'm not a purist by any means, but the Epiphone guitars are better than the MIM fenders IMO. I love a good ash/alder super strat as much as the next guy, but given your constraints I agree that an epiphone would be great for you.

I hadn't really considered Epiphone, as I assumed it would be subpar. I suppose with a good tube amp, it would work. I like a little distortion because it covers a lot of my mistakes lol.

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08-03-2024, 07:30 PM

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Agree on the Epiphone.

I’ve got a cherry es339 Epiphone. It’s a smaller body than the es335.

If you’ve got pedals then you can make a tele heavy sounding.

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08-03-2024, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted By ChunkBuster⏩

Agree on the Epiphone.

I’ve got a cherry es339 Epiphone. It’s a smaller body than the es335.

If you’ve got pedals then you can make a tele heavy sounding.

I had some distortion pedals years ago, but I don't anymore. I'd have to splurge out to get back to where I was. I had the Roland TD1 drums, an eight track recorder, those guitars, and stuff like that. I may have to rethink Epiphone then.

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08-03-2024, 07:32 PM

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What amp are you looking at?

I’ve got a fender and a Marshall. The Marshall has a lot more distortion on it if you want to crank that up.

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08-03-2024, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted By hendrixfreak70⏩

I hadn't really considered Epiphone, as I assumed it would be subpar. I suppose with a good tube amp, it would work. I like a little distortion because it covers a lot of my mistakes lol.

Their pickups suck, but that's an easy change.

I also refuse to buy any guitar I cannot play first. There's a lot that can go wrong between the bridge and the nut.

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08-03-2024, 07:36 PM

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Just get an ESP

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08-03-2024, 07:40 PM

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I don't support GC but this just to show how much of a steal these are

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Epiphon...SABEgI_H_D_BwE

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08-03-2024, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted By ChunkBuster⏩

What amp are you looking at?

I’ve got a fender and a Marshall. The Marshall has a lot more distortion on it if you want to crank that up.

The only tube amp I ever owned was a B52-AT212. My brother in law had a Peavey Valve King stack that I LOVED. I have always loved Marshall amps but never played on one.

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I don't support GC but this just to show how much of a steal these are

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Epiphon...SABEgI_H_D_BwE

I may have to check that out man. That does seem cheap.

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08-03-2024, 07:47 PM

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I'll probably end up going with the cheaper version of something, most likely. I'm not an expert, studio musician, or in a band so no need to spend thousands of dollars.

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08-03-2024, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted By Misque*******⏩

Just get an ESP

I'm not much of a shredder huehue.

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08-03-2024, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted By hendrixfreak70⏩

I'll probably end up going with the cheaper version of something, most likely. I'm not an expert, studio musician, or in a band so no need to spend thousands of dollars.

Lol neither am I, I'm a hobbyist but at this point I've def spent a few thousand on guitars and gear lol. But I've bought and resold stuff a lot over the years.

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08-03-2024, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted By hendrixfreak70⏩

I had some distortion pedals years ago, but I don't anymore. I'd have to splurge out to get back to where I was. I had the Roland TD1 drums, an eight track recorder, those guitars, and stuff like that. I may have to rethink Epiphone then.

In today's age, I'd recommend Fractal Axe-Fx or Line-6 over pedals. From what I've heard it beats the fuk out of any tangible amp/pedal set up in terms of sheer flexibility and an alterability over all the conceivable sounds. The combinatorial space for your signal chain is just absurd, like you could have even the most autistic audiophile and even he couldn't exhaust all the nuance.

Sometimes it seems too nuanced, like even if you spent years with it you wouldn't uncover all the details. But I've heard amazing tones out of it and even dorks farting into their computer chairs are producing album quality sound.

I'm hearing that even top level professional musicians are gigging with Axe-Fx now instead of taking their entire pedalboards with them. Another plus in terms of portability and convenience.

Back off, Warchild.

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08-03-2024, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩

In today's age, I'd recommend Fractal Axe-Fx or Line-6 over pedals. From what I've heard it beats the fuk out of any tangible amp/pedal set up in terms of sheer flexibility and an alterability over all the conceivable sounds. The combinatorial space for your signal chain is just absurd, like you could have even the most autistic audiophile and even he couldn't exhaust all the nuance.

Sometimes it seems too nuanced, like even if you spent years with it you wouldn't uncover all the details. But I've heard amazing tones out of it and even dorks farting into their computer chairs are producing album quality sound.

I'm hearing that even top level professional musicians are gigging with Axe-Fx now instead of taking their entire pedalboards with them. Another plus in terms of portability and convenience.

Didn't you admit you don't actually own a guitar?

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08-03-2024, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩

In today's age, I'd recommend Fractal Axe-Fx or Line-6 over pedals. From what I've heard it beats the fuk out of any tangible amp/pedal set up in terms of sheer flexibility and an alterability over all the conceivable sounds. The combinatorial space for your signal chain is just absurd, like you could have even the most autistic audiophile and even he couldn't exhaust all the nuance.

Sometimes it seems too nuanced, like even if you spent years with it you wouldn't uncover all the details. But I've heard amazing tones out of it and even dorks farting into their computer chairs are producing album quality sound.

I'm hearing that even top level professional musicians are gigging with Axe-Fx now instead of taking their entire pedalboards with them. Another plus in terms of portability and convenience.

Based. I was at a Yes concert years ago and saw Line Six stuff everywhere. Had never heard of it before that.

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08-03-2024, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩

In today's age, I'd recommend Fractal Axe-Fx or Line-6 over pedals. From what I've heard it beats the fuk out of any tangible amp/pedal set up in terms of sheer flexibility and an alterability over all the conceivable sounds. The combinatorial space for your signal chain is just absurd, like you could have even the most autistic audiophile and even he couldn't exhaust all the nuance.

Sometimes it seems too nuanced, like even if you spent years with it you wouldn't uncover all the details. But I've heard amazing tones out of it and even dorks farting into their computer chairs are producing album quality sound.

I'm hearing that even top level professional musicians are gigging with Axe-Fx now instead of taking their entire pedalboards with them. Another plus in terms of portability and convenience.

Honestly, I've been trying to sell my tube amp for this reason. You can get good enough sounds with sims or any other digital stuff these days. Plus in my case I really have virtually no need for it other than simply wanting to play through a real amp.

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08-03-2024, 07:56 PM

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visit music stores, play a bunch of guitars. If the guitar feels right, plays well, and sounds good unplugged then it can fixed up over time to sound great (new pickups in a MIM will do wonders if it's a good guitar). Next, build yourself a Mojotone Blackface Princeton Reverb amp kit. You'll have a hand wired tone monster (or pay Fender $3K for their handwound one). Epiphone LP is a good choice. Tele is always a good choice. I put together a partscaster Tele many years ago that sounds killer

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08-14-2024, 01:54 PM

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Still struggling with this. I found an LP Classic for $1600. I also found an American Tele Performer for 1k. Obviously I'd rather save $600. However, I just love the look of the LP I'm looking at. I can make them sound similar too. I think on a clean level, Tele does better. On a heavier distortion, LP takes it.

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08-14-2024, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted By hendrixfreak70⏩

Still struggling with this. I found an LP Classic for $1600. I also found an American Tele Performer for 1k. Obviously I'd rather save $600. However, I just love the look of the LP I'm looking at. I can make them sound similar too. I think on a clean level, Tele does better. On a heavier distortion, LP takes it.

Epiphone Les Paul is 90-95% of Gibson quality but far cheaper.

Gibsons are boomers guitars!

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08-14-2024, 02:37 PM

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What’s the combined price of a Epiphone Les Paul and Squier Tele?

Under $1000

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08-14-2024, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted By ChunkBuster⏩

What’s the combined price of a Epiphone Les Paul and Squier Tele?

Under $1000

Most probably. I'm a boomer though kek.

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08-14-2024, 03:10 PM

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Also, Epiphone is made in China. Ain't nobody got time for that.

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08-14-2024, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted By hendrixfreak70⏩

Also, Epiphone is made in China. Ain't nobody got time for that.

Slave labour usually = good quality as they might not eat before they get chained up for the night.

You could get two guitars or a boomers Gibson. I know what I’d do 🥴

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08-15-2024, 12:19 PM

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Got the 2021 Les Paul Classic Honey Blonde color. Dazzit mang.

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