08-23-2024, 05:29 PM
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What happens to the democratic party if Kamala loses?
Where do they pivot? Who becomes the leader of the party? Does it force them to move towards the center or they double down on indemnity politics and TDS?
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08-23-2024, 05:32 PM
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Threy're absolutely fuked. In 4 years, they lost Pelosi and Schumer to lead things. Absolutely no leaders behind them that anybody would care about.
If(when) Trump wins, Dems are in an absolute chitstorm.
If(when) Trump wins, Dems are in an absolute chitstorm.
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08-23-2024, 05:36 PM
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Hopefully the DNC as we know it today gets torn down and they have to rebuild it into something that actually resembles the way the DNC was over a decade ago.
Today's DNC has morphed into some weird globalist communism movement controlled by shadowy totalitarian elites.
Today's DNC has morphed into some weird globalist communism movement controlled by shadowy totalitarian elites.
08-23-2024, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens⏩
that's what i'm thinking. you can sense the nervous energy in their pleas for people to vote kamala. everything they've talked about for 16 years will be thrown in the garbage with a loss
Threy're absolutely fuked. In 4 years, they lost Pelosi and Schumer to lead things. Absolutely no leaders behind them that anybody would care about.
If(when) Trump wins, Dems are in an absolute chitstorm.
If(when) Trump wins, Dems are in an absolute chitstorm.
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08-23-2024, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens⏩
I support Trump, but I think that Republicans are a little overoptimistic about the chances this election. Plenty of dumb voters. Look at 2018, 2020, 2021 GA senate run off, 2022 and the 2022 GA senate run off. Wouldn't say that this election is in the bag yet.
Threy're absolutely fuked. In 4 years, they lost Pelosi and Schumer to lead things. Absolutely no leaders behind them that anybody would care about.
If(when) Trump wins, Dems are in an absolute chitstorm.
If(when) Trump wins, Dems are in an absolute chitstorm.
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08-23-2024, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
If Trump wins, he's an instant lame duck, because he can only be in for four years.
Where do they pivot? Who becomes the leader of the party? Does it force them to move towards the center or they double down on indemnity politics and TDS?
The Democrats will block and have nonstop propaganda.
Also, the likely foreign backed woke stuff will go into overdrive.
Haris could run again because now she's an outsider who came in at the last minute. She's no hated like Clinton was and so she might have another chance.
I don't know of other famous Democrats who are household names so they would be taking a big risk with someone not famous.
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08-23-2024, 05:49 PM
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You guys dont get it. There are armies or retards and gibmedats who will continue to vote blue. They vote tribally. The media are in the tank for them. This country is run by an unelected deep state and politicians who are on the take from lobbyists. They dont want competent people in power because that means oversight.
This election will be rigged, and the demographic shift is so huge that the Dems will never lose again after this.
They will create and meme a figurehead into existence. They already did it with Kamala, who was a disaster as a vice president who everyone hated. The minute the word went out, the left flipped on a dime and fell into line on it. They will do it for the next anointed candidate
This election will be rigged, and the demographic shift is so huge that the Dems will never lose again after this.
They will create and meme a figurehead into existence. They already did it with Kamala, who was a disaster as a vice president who everyone hated. The minute the word went out, the left flipped on a dime and fell into line on it. They will do it for the next anointed candidate
08-23-2024, 05:50 PM
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They're not going to lose. They will not let Trump be President again.
3AM mail in ballots, illegals voting, water mains bursting. THeyre going to use everything at their disposal.
3AM mail in ballots, illegals voting, water mains bursting. THeyre going to use everything at their disposal.
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08-23-2024, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted By MeSoHawny⏩
If you think about it, lobbyists are a form of legally sanctioned corruption.
You guys dont get it. There are armies or retards and gibmedats who will continue to vote blue. They vote tribally. The media are in the tank for them. This country is run by an unelected deep state and politicians who are on the take from lobbyists. They dont want competent people in power because that means oversight.
This election will be rigged, and the demographic shift is so huge that the Dems will never lose again after this.
They will create and meme a figurehead into existence. They already did it with Kamala, who was a disaster as a vice president who everyone hated. The minute the word went out, the left flipped on a dime and fell into line on it. They will do it for the next anointed candidate
This election will be rigged, and the demographic shift is so huge that the Dems will never lose again after this.
They will create and meme a figurehead into existence. They already did it with Kamala, who was a disaster as a vice president who everyone hated. The minute the word went out, the left flipped on a dime and fell into line on it. They will do it for the next anointed candidate
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08-23-2024, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
i don't really see trump as a lame duck. if he wins, a decade of TDS will be in ruin and it will be a clear rejection of the democratic party as we now know it. MAGA will be here to stay and 2028 will go through it – with anyone having a chance on the republican side being forced to take up the mantle from trump.
If Trump wins, he's an instant lame duck, because he can only be in for four years.
The Democrats will block and have nonstop propaganda.
Also, the likely foreign backed woke stuff will go into overdrive.
Haris could run again because now she's an outsider who came in at the last minute. She's no hated like Clinton was and so she might have another chance.
I don't know of other famous Democrats who are household names so they would be taking a big risk with someone not famous.
The Democrats will block and have nonstop propaganda.
Also, the likely foreign backed woke stuff will go into overdrive.
Haris could run again because now she's an outsider who came in at the last minute. She's no hated like Clinton was and so she might have another chance.
I don't know of other famous Democrats who are household names so they would be taking a big risk with someone not famous.
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08-23-2024, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted By MeSoHawny⏩
i reckon that's why this is a pivotal moment in history. if dems win the media, deepstate and their backers will select our leaders from here on out. ems gaging in politics will sorta be a pointless endeavor because the hoards of zombies will be too large. no chance of salvaging america.
You guys dont get it. There are armies or retards and gibmedats who will continue to vote blue. They vote tribally. The media are in the tank for them. This country is run by an unelected deep state and politicians who are on the take from lobbyists. They dont want competent people in power because that means oversight.
This election will be rigged, and the demographic shift is so huge that the Dems will never lose again after this.
They will create and meme a figurehead into existence. They already did it with Kamala, who was a disaster as a vice president who everyone hated. The minute the word went out, the left flipped on a dime and fell into line on it. They will do it for the next anointed candidate
This election will be rigged, and the demographic shift is so huge that the Dems will never lose again after this.
They will create and meme a figurehead into existence. They already did it with Kamala, who was a disaster as a vice president who everyone hated. The minute the word went out, the left flipped on a dime and fell into line on it. They will do it for the next anointed candidate
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08-23-2024, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted By MeSoHawny⏩
Absolute facts.
You guys dont get it. There are armies or retards and gibmedats who will continue to vote blue. They vote tribally. The media are in the tank for them. This country is run by an unelected deep state and politicians who are on the take from lobbyists. They dont want competent people in power because that means oversight.
This election will be rigged, and the demographic shift is so huge that the Dems will never lose again after this.
They will create and meme a figurehead into existence. They already did it with Kamala, who was a disaster as a vice president who everyone hated. The minute the word went out, the left flipped on a dime and fell into line on it. They will do it for the next anointed candidate
This election will be rigged, and the demographic shift is so huge that the Dems will never lose again after this.
They will create and meme a figurehead into existence. They already did it with Kamala, who was a disaster as a vice president who everyone hated. The minute the word went out, the left flipped on a dime and fell into line on it. They will do it for the next anointed candidate
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08-23-2024, 06:18 PM
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another 24/7 attack by the media about how once again russia helped drumf win the election.
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08-23-2024, 06:19 PM
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the culture is changing. we enter another 80s style era of conservatism and the Democratic Party does some self-reflecting
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08-23-2024, 06:25 PM
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yeah not sure the american people can stomach 4 more years of TDS…they've already had a decade of that. dems will obviously be completely crushed, but it will signal the country has had enough of constantly demonizing trump and anyone supporting him.
the culture is changing. we enter another 80s style era of conservatism and the Democratic Party does some self-reflecting
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08-23-2024, 06:33 PM
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I'd expect quite an extraordinary number of suicides, especially amongst members of Biden's current cabinet, as well as lawyers with links to the recent Trump show trials.
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08-23-2024, 06:40 PM
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They will get Greaseball Gavin and try and californicate the whole US
08-23-2024, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted By MeSoHawny⏩
Eh, I think you've overestimating things. I live in a place that is 90%+ Dem in every election. They are not at all excited about Kamala. There is very little buzz for her, only a handful of "Harris for President" signs. Obviously they will come out to vote for her, but if these people aren't excited for her, the chances of her turning out a bunch of people closer to the center is just not going to happen.
You guys dont get it. There are armies or retards and gibmedats who will continue to vote blue. They vote tribally. The media are in the tank for them. This country is run by an unelected deep state and politicians who are on the take from lobbyists. They dont want competent people in power because that means oversight.
This election will be rigged, and the demographic shift is so huge that the Dems will never lose again after this.
They will create and meme a figurehead into existence. They already did it with Kamala, who was a disaster as a vice president who everyone hated. The minute the word went out, the left flipped on a dime and fell into line on it. They will do it for the next anointed candidate
This election will be rigged, and the demographic shift is so huge that the Dems will never lose again after this.
They will create and meme a figurehead into existence. They already did it with Kamala, who was a disaster as a vice president who everyone hated. The minute the word went out, the left flipped on a dime and fell into line on it. They will do it for the next anointed candidate
When it comes down to it, once you see through the hype, there are very few people who give a chit about Kamala Harris. She's a black woman from San Francisco with a very liberal voting record. She isn't going to turn out a bunch of white people in the Midwest to come vote for her. The economy is terrible and a lot of people are miserable right now. That doesn't bode well for the party in power.
I think this will eventually be a 6-8% Trump victory.
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08-23-2024, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
Do you know what a lame duck is?
i don't really see trump as a lame duck. if he wins, a decade of TDS will be in ruin and it will be a clear rejection of the democratic party as we now know it. MAGA will be here to stay and 2028 will go through it – with anyone having a chance on the republican side being forced to take up the mantle from trump.
It's a president that had a second term and the opposition knows he can't have another, so the beginning of the presidency is strong, the second part is okay but the last of it is powerless.
So, if Trump wins, it's instantly over.
I'm amazed that this isn't being talked about.
As I've said, if he wins it will be a flood of criticism and opposition for four years. The Republicans don't have a famous person, a charismatic person, and they are unpopular with yuppies and young people. So, if Trump wins, the Democrats wait it out, block Trump, then four years from now they will be back in.
If you think the clownworld machine has been intense for far, just wait if Trump gets in. They will be trying to put him in jail, bring more charges, and it will be him getting nothing done except fighting and trying to counter propaganda.
I like him because he's fun and interesting, but it's not a good scenario.
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08-23-2024, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
"If he wins it will be a flood of criticism and opposition for for years"
Do you know what a lame duck is?
It's a president that had a second term and the opposition knows he can't have another, so the beginning of the presidency is strong, the second part is okay but the last of it is powerless.
So, if Trump wins, it's instantly over.
I'm amazed that this isn't being talked about.
As I've said, if he wins it will be a flood of criticism and opposition for four years. The Republicans don't have a famous person, a charismatic person, and they are unpopular with yuppies and young people. So, if Trump wins, the Democrats wait it out, block Trump, then four years from now they will be back in.
If you think the clownworld machine has been intense for far, just wait if Trump gets in. They will be trying to put him in jail, bring more charges, and it will be him getting nothing done except fighting and trying to counter propaganda.
I like him because he's fun and interesting, but it's not a good scenario.
It's a president that had a second term and the opposition knows he can't have another, so the beginning of the presidency is strong, the second part is okay but the last of it is powerless.
So, if Trump wins, it's instantly over.
I'm amazed that this isn't being talked about.
As I've said, if he wins it will be a flood of criticism and opposition for four years. The Republicans don't have a famous person, a charismatic person, and they are unpopular with yuppies and young people. So, if Trump wins, the Democrats wait it out, block Trump, then four years from now they will be back in.
If you think the clownworld machine has been intense for far, just wait if Trump gets in. They will be trying to put him in jail, bring more charges, and it will be him getting nothing done except fighting and trying to counter propaganda.
I like him because he's fun and interesting, but it's not a good scenario.
How is that different than the first time around?
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08-23-2024, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted By MeSoHawny⏩
I said they would rig the last election before it even happened.
You guys dont get it. There are armies or retards and gibmedats who will continue to vote blue. They vote tribally. The media are in the tank for them. This country is run by an unelected deep state and politicians who are on the take from lobbyists. They dont want competent people in power because that means oversight.
This election will be rigged, and the demographic shift is so huge that the Dems will never lose again after this.
They will create and meme a figurehead into existence. They already did it with Kamala, who was a disaster as a vice president who everyone hated. The minute the word went out, the left flipped on a dime and fell into line on it. They will do it for the next anointed candidate
This election will be rigged, and the demographic shift is so huge that the Dems will never lose again after this.
They will create and meme a figurehead into existence. They already did it with Kamala, who was a disaster as a vice president who everyone hated. The minute the word went out, the left flipped on a dime and fell into line on it. They will do it for the next anointed candidate
That's because I saw insane anti-Trump propaganda everywhere.
I recall a science fiction book review site I liked having anti-Trump articles and they never ever had "news" on a book site.
The jews were out in full force and you can believe it.
Reddit was CRAZY with anti-Trump stuff, Twitter, which was FBI controlled at the time, and so on. ******** was trying to manipulate the election, the news media, and our judicial system….which is really bizarre.
I reasoned that if the people who control the media, law enforcement, and the courts were THAT obsessed then they would rig the election.
After the election…Trump and his crew concluded the election was rigged. I could have told them.
I don't understand what the fear of him is, to be honest, but it's obvious.
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08-23-2024, 07:14 PM
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It will be worse.
"If he wins it will be a flood of criticism and opposition for for years"
How is that different than the first time around?
How is that different than the first time around?
He got little done the first time around.
The fear was that he would get reelected. If he does, the fear will be that he is able to do anything or whip up interest in another Republican.
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The fear with him is simple. He's a powerful conservative that threatens the liberal status quo. That is it.
I said they would rig the last election before it even happened.
That's because I saw insane anti-Trump propaganda everywhere.
I recall a science fiction book review site I liked having anti-Trump articles and they never ever had "news" on a book site.
The jews were out in full force and you can believe it.
Reddit was CRAZY with anti-Trump stuff, Twitter, which was FBI controlled at the time, and so on. ******** was trying to manipulate the election, the news media, and our judicial system….which is really bizarre.
I reasoned that if the people who control the media, law enforcement, and the courts were THAT obsessed then they would rig the election.
After the election…Trump and his crew concluded the election was rigged. I could have told them.
I don't understand what the fear of him is, to be honest, but it's obvious.
That's because I saw insane anti-Trump propaganda everywhere.
I recall a science fiction book review site I liked having anti-Trump articles and they never ever had "news" on a book site.
The jews were out in full force and you can believe it.
Reddit was CRAZY with anti-Trump stuff, Twitter, which was FBI controlled at the time, and so on. ******** was trying to manipulate the election, the news media, and our judicial system….which is really bizarre.
I reasoned that if the people who control the media, law enforcement, and the courts were THAT obsessed then they would rig the election.
After the election…Trump and his crew concluded the election was rigged. I could have told them.
I don't understand what the fear of him is, to be honest, but it's obvious.
08-23-2024, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
Do you think they'll rig this one too? How can he win if they'll do the same stuff as last time
It will be worse.
He got little done the first time around.
The fear was that he would get reelected. If he does, the fear will be that he is able to do anything or whip up interest in another Republican.
He got little done the first time around.
The fear was that he would get reelected. If he does, the fear will be that he is able to do anything or whip up interest in another Republican.
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08-23-2024, 07:45 PM
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I don't believe that.
The fear with him is simple. He's a powerful conservative that threatens the liberal status quo. That is it.
If the FBI is trying to spread propaganda and engage in censorship, there's something else.
My belief is that Trump is honest about things and they think he will expose something, what, I don't know.
Trump used to be a Democrat and I think he switched to become president.
So, he knows them and knows how they operate.
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08-23-2024, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted By 6gorillion⏩
They are "rigging" it via having him convicted of crimes, etc and things like that.
Do you think they'll rig this one too? How can he win if they'll do the same stuff as last time
Unless they have control over election machines, I don't think they will do it that way.
However, what mechanism is in place to make sure they don't do the same things they did last time, none that I know of.
I recall the US going to countries and making sure the election isn't rigged. Is anyone doing that for us, nope.
So, it could easily be done again only with less exaggerated numbers.
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08-23-2024, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
I don't understand what the fear of him is, to be honest, but it's obvious.
For one thing he wants to end social security and Medicare…
I don't understand what the fear of him is, to be honest, but it's obvious.
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08-23-2024, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted By MegaSloot⏩
why didn't he end it last time around?
For one thing he wants to end social security and Medicare…
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08-23-2024, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
He wasn’t able to. Every budget proposal he submitted proposed cuts. Democrats stopped him. The presidency is not enough- the house and the senate need to be won as well
why didn't he end it last time around?
"I can see clothes of silk, if materials that do not hide the body, nor even one's decency, can be called clothes … Wretched flocks of maids labor so that the adulteress may be visible through her thin dress, so that her husband has no more acquaintance than any outsider or foreigner with is his wife's body." - Seneca the Younger starting the misc tradition of moral outrage and pearl clutching instead of lifting.
08-23-2024, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted By MegaSloot⏩
so why all the scare tactics about what scary things he will do that even if he wanted to would need to be passed by congress?
He wasn’t able to. Every budget proposal he submitted proposed cuts. Democrats stopped him. The presidency is not enough- the house and the senate need to be won as well
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