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it seems those damn Iraqis are up to no good.


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Do you really think Iran is that stupid to attack a Japanese oil tanker while visiting with the Japanese prime minister? I just don’t think they can be so stupid but you never know.
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Originally Posted By gachase21
Try to play if off like we are blind

Let’s just look at the simple facts.


Just before the attack’s you post this
Originally Posted By Tha
No one thinks the US foreign policy is benevolent except for Americans
Then shortly after almost at the exact same time of attack this is your next post..
Originally Posted By Tha
Jokes are srs business
And guess where one of the tankers are at port now?
One of the two tankers hit by the explosions on Thursday, the Japanese-owned Kokuka Courageous, was being towed into a port in the United Arab Emirates for further inspection into how the attack was carried out and with what kind of weapon.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/14/u...er-hormuz.html



Don’t think we can’t see exactly what do did, what you are now doing, and your involvement here.



Always a fun chill kinda dude, working that window office high up in that majestic glass tower overlooking the UAE.....

I’m glad no one got hurt.



So winners and losers- follow the $$$

Who wins?

Well the obvious owners of excess oil respected in stockpiles, more so the oil future and asset backed traders...
UAE’s ADNOC to venture into privatisation, oil trading

ADNOC – dubbed “a sleeping energy giant” – has embarked on major changes since al-Jaber’s appointment as CEO last year, part of an economic reform drive led by Abu Dhabi’s Crown Prince Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan.

“Our objective here is for us to turn this company into an agile, resilient, forward-thinking, progressive organization… with efficiency and top high performance and profitability set in the core of our business,” al-Jaber said.
ADNOC wants to set up its own oil trading unit, possibly together with an oil major or a big trading house.

“Non-speculative, asset-backed trading is going to be central to our overall trading and value maximisation effort,” al-Jaber said, although no decision had been taken yet on a structure.
https://gulfbusiness.com/uaes-adnoc-...n-oil-trading/


Oh but let’s not forget that sleeper cell, the insurance underwriters for the actual transport....

Yes the highly profitable and high risks “war” insurance underwriters...

Who was insuring one of those ships?


https://www.warrisk.no/about/

Ahh yea, but what about the rest of the industry, what will this do to their revenue and profits?
War Risk Insurance Spirals Higher for Middle East Tankers
By Alex Longley and Sheela Tobben

June 14, 2019, 7:00 PM EDT
Updated on June 15, 2019, 9:00 AM EDT

Premiums are soaring after second spate of attacks near Gulf
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...nsurance-rises


So who are the winners???







https://www.tameen.ae/en/for-busines...argo-insurance
https://www.chubb.com/ua-en/contact-...ct-us-uae.aspx
https://www.qicuae.com/insurance/marine-aviation/
https://www.eminsco.com/contact-us/
Etc etc etc

You get the point.


There is a coalition of ThaBigKahoona type UAE pals that are underlying sympathisers for Iran and a general dislike , even hate, for Israel(read TBK’s sig)


So how to make a profit, make it looks as if Israel might have orchestrated something, create tension increasing insurance and oil trading assets profits, while getting no one hurt.


What making members is the Arab world to begin to see Iran and CT victims...


It’s an elsewhere scheme of money and planning- where no one lucky got hurt- so not all bad guys I guess


Yep, DNK might have gotten a kickback in the deal as well, honestly the cost of cargo is noting to future price profit schemes.

Ironic that they take the evidence strait to the UAE to conceal the ploy....
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But wait, theres more!!!



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Originally Posted By Xgamer791
Do you really think Iran is that stupid to attack a Japanese oil tanker while visiting with the Japanese prime minister? I just don’t think they can be so stupid but you never know.
Not saying they did or didn't, but you are giving way too much credit to Iranian military personnel. You really think they are coordinated well enough to hit specific targets and not others? Really you have a bunch of guys that are told what to do and prioritize based on targets of opportunity. The average street gang in LA has better discipline and training than the Iranian military. Remember, these guys got their asses kicked by Iraq, and we know how well they fought. If you look up battlefield footage of that war, you'll see just how bad it is. That's why I don't worry about Iran. All these simulations showing that they could do damage are showing them in an attack that would be well coordinated by well trained troops, not something they are capable of.
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Originally Posted By Tha
Breaking: floating passport near burning tanker proves Iran did it
The accusations and claims against Iran have been so retarded that I actually needed to double-check this before making a post. What a crazy world!
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Thus David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and a stone, and he struck the Philistine and killed him; but there was no sword in David’s hand. (1 Samuel 17:50)
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178
Not saying they did or didn't, but you are giving way too much credit to Iranian military personnel. You really think they are coordinated well enough to hit specific targets and not others? Really you have a bunch of guys that are told what to do and prioritize based on targets of opportunity. The average street gang in LA has better discipline and training than the Iranian military. Remember, these guys got their asses kicked by Iraq, and we know how well they fought. If you look up battlefield footage of that war, you'll see just how bad it is. That's why I don't worry about Iran. All these simulations showing that they could do damage are showing them in an attack that would be well coordinated by well trained troops, not something they are capable of.
Thats a rather dishonest take on the war. Iran was at its weakest point in its history at that time with Saddam at his strongest. Then take into account the vast difference in support each country had (Iraq got weapons from maybe 30+ countries, along with chemical weapons parts, and soldiers from the Arab world). Iran literally had 4 things, Iran-Contra, Israeli intel, and North Korean/Syrian ammo sales.

The military was also split between Islamists and former Imperial army loyalists. They did quite well considering they didnt lose.

On the other hand, if Irans military is so weak, then you should ask why they are made to be such a scary thing when the vast majority of Iranian military is not built for offensive capabilities. Could be.... certain people do it for their own agenda?
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Shipping companies, ship insurers, cargo insurers, etc


Prices, profits, and valuations skyrocketing.

How they tangled web will eventually all connect to Kahoona...
Oil tanker owners are turning increasingly nervous about loading cargoes from the world's largest export region for crude after the latest round of attacks on vessels.

Both owners and the companies that charter their ships paused bookings on Thursday as they re-evaluated risks to shipping barrels from the Middle East in the wake of attacks on two more tankers just a month after similar incidents. Insurance costs from the region look set to rise, too.

The U.S. pointed the finger at Iran for the attacks just outside the Strait of Hormuz, a vital corridor for crude oil exports. The Persian Gulf country immediately denied being responsible. Nevertheless, six tankers, hauling a variety of cargoes, have now been targeted in the space of just 32 days — the kind of threat to merchant shipping that hasn't been seen in the region for decades.

"We need to remember that some 30% of the world's crude oil passes through the Straits," said Paolo d'Amico, chairman of Intertanko, the biggest trade group for tanker owners. "If the waters are becoming unsafe, the supply to the entire Western world could be at risk."

The Joint War Committee, a group that advises insurers, designated the entire Persian Gulf and waters just outside it a so-called Listed Area after the incidents a month ago. The classification gives underwriters room to charge more. As of Thursday, owners were reluctant to send vessels to the region while there was also a dearth of cargoes, according to traders and shipbrokers involved in that market, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

DNK, the mutual insurer that covered one of the ships damaged Thursday, will increase its rates for war insurance, according to a person familiar with the matter. Rival insurer Hellenic War Risks Club will probably increase a so-called additional premium that owners pay when sailing to the Persian Gulf with immediate effect, according to a notice on its website.

DNK insured the Norwegian-owned Front *****r for the full value of the vessel, according to the person familiar with the matter. A ship of that tanker's size is worth between $30 million and $50 million, according to another person with knowledge of the matter. Insurers provide war policies that pay out the value of ships damaged or destroyed by acts of both terrorism and war. The Front *****r's cargo of naphtha would be insured under a separate policy.

Some owners appear to be "taking a breather" when it comes to accepting charters from the Middle East while they evaluate the risks of lifting oil from the region, according to Halvor Ellefsen, a shipbroker at Fearnleys in London.

Shipping companies should consider diverting vessels from the area where the two vessels were attacked Thursday, industry group BIMCO, the largest international shipping association for owners, said in a security advisory to its members. Tensions in the Strait and the Gulf are now at the highest they can be without an actual armed conflict, the group said in a separate statement.

Japan's Mitsui OSK Lines Ltd. has ordered ships it operates in the area to keep a 12-mile radius from the zone where the two tankers were attacked, a company spokesman said on Thursday evening.

Intertanko said it is "extremely worried" about the safety of crews in the region. It also said two of its members suffered explosions at or below the water line in what the group described as an attack.

The crew of the Front *****r was forced to board an Iranian vessel and then taken to Iran, according to a report from DNK seen by Bloomberg. Despite having already been picked up by a merchant ship nearby, Iran's navy "demanded that the crew were transferred to them," the report said.

Escalations that materially disrupt Middle East oil supplies are relatively rare. The Iran-Iraq war coincided with a big slump in OPEC oil output in the first half of the 1980s. That conflict saw tankers destroyed as the two countries tried to damage one another's economies.

By contrast, Iraq's 1990 invasion of Kuwait, and the Gulf War that followed, were a long way from Hormuz and had a relatively small impact on flows through the Strait, with Saudi Arabia replacing much of the lost Iraqi and Kuwaiti crude.

In the short-term the rates for chartering ships in the Middle East could rise as some owners consider avoiding the region, lowering supply, JPMorgan Chase & Co. analyst Noah Parquette wrote in a report.

Shares of tanker companies responded bullishly, suggesting a view among some investors that the tensions could drive up freight rates. Frontline Ltd. — the owner of the Front *****r — led the way, rallying as much as 11% in Oslo on Thursday.

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10 page thread yet Im still waiting to see anyone calling to go to war with Iran?

Incident stopped being reported about in the news by the next day yet you're all still in here getting all worked up lmao
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JAPAN TODAY FINGERS ISRAEL(can't post links, someone?)

Japan demands more proof from U.S. that Iran attacked tankers

Japan Today, June 16
If having expertise sophisticated enough to conduct the attack could be a reason to conclude that the attacker was Iran, "That would apply to the United States and Israel as well," said a source at the Foreign Ministry.
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Originally Posted By Aircommander91
Probably just anudda honest mistake from our greatest allies !






where are you getting all of these?

you had some good ones in the deleted thread. made me think
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Originally Posted By fartproudly
JAPAN TODAY FINGERS ISRAEL(can't post links, someone?)

Japan demands more proof from U.S. that Iran attacked tankers

Japan Today, June 16
Sounds like Japan needs some freedom.
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Originally Posted By Thelonebadwolf
Sounds like Japan needs some freedom.
They are just being good partners to deliver the attempted propaganda message, I exposed then in post 279.
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Originally Posted By topperstyle
I’m going to be annoyed if we end up going to war over a god damn boat
this.
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Originally Posted By gachase21
This doesn't necessarily preclude people like...Israel being behind these attacks.
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Originally Posted By Thelonebadwolf
Sounds like Japan needs some freedom.
So....Japan thinks that Israel was really behind these attacks? No one ever accused the Japanese of being dummies....
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Originally Posted By ACWBRAH
This doesn't necessarily preclude people like...Israel being behind these attacks.
Well it’s pretty apparent TBK was orchestrating it, and he’s always hated Israel so....
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Originally Posted By Thelonebadwolf
Sounds like Japan needs some freedom.
A Japanese foreign office official, probably the minister, even saying the forbidden word IS-RA-EL (shh) in connection with an obvious false flag attack means the world is getting sick and tired of this shiit.

Yup Bolton thinking about giving them some freedom for talking this way. They should have USS Libertied that ship crew and told them to stfu or else.
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Originally Posted By jakedel
What do yall think about this Iran ship attack business ? Would people be ok with us going to war with them over these kind of things?
No.
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Originally Posted By gachase21
Well it’s pretty apparent TBK was orchestrating it, and he’s always hated Israel so....
LOL, it's not apparent AT ALL. ISRAEL is the entity which has wanted the West to go to war with Iran for YEARS. Also, Bibi Netanyahu promised that if he was re-elected, he would FINALLY "do something" about Iran.
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Originally Posted By ACWBRAH
LOL, it's not apparent AT ALL. ISRAEL is the entity which has wanted the West to go to war with Iran for YEARS. Also, Bibi Netanyahu promised that if he was re-elected, he would FINALLY "do something" about Iran.
Maybe , but as I pointed out in post 278, there is wayyyyy more evidence of TBK being involved, and virtually none for Israel or Iran.
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