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08-26-2021, 10:22 AM
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This doesnt end when we all obey; it ends when we stop obeying.
08-26-2021, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted By 3fifty⏩
Sure, different populations.If there's a rebuttal to that ^, I'd like to hear it.
We're looking at entire countries as a whole, while ignoring demographics. The population that is at risk for covid adverse impacts is different from the population that is at risk for vaccine adverse impacts.
Similarly, those populations are actually the same as those who get a benefit from the vaccine.
Young people are at very low risk of impact from the virus, and much higher risk from the vaccine.
Older people are at a much higher risk from the virus, but a lower relative risk from the vaccine.
08-26-2021, 11:14 AM
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not everybody who doesn't want the vaccine subscribes to theories like muh 5G, Bill Gates, bio-weapon, etc
alot of your statements could be applied right back to how scientists, and the media themselves are reporting covid. Like they don't distinguish at all people dying with covid versus of covid. Yet these same people will say well did he die because of the vaccine or did he die while being vaccinated. Like, at least be upfront and honest when people say "600K" covid deaths that the majority of these are "with" covid and these people had comorbidities to begin with. They will say something eye popping like "unvaccinated 25x more likely to die", meanwhile, your chances of dying to begin with is like 0.0001%. They say this stuff to fear monger people into submission and obedience of whatever insane policies they come up with and whatever they come up with in the future. Basically gaslighting people into supporting chit like vaccine passports because they've been told to believe this chit is wiping out half the population.
Or they might say something like, 20% of those hospitalized experience long-covid. Meanwhile symptoms like fatigue are basically what constitute long-covid. I think what most people here are concerned about are the long-term effects of a vaccine that uses mRNA and viral-vector, which are relatively new in terms of it being brought to the market rather than more acute effects. Although if you're young, healthy, and had covid already why would you take the vaccine aside from convenience and to participate in society, travel, etc.
No it isn't the same type of people who don't believe in the moon landing. Based on how the media has reported this, draconian lockdowns, pushing the vaccine non-stop on people through chit like lotteries and donuts, how the so called "experts" have been wrong and flip-flopped positions constantly, them just parroting the same like the NPCs with no thoughts of their own. Let's not even mention how companies like Pfizer and Moderna have been caught with their pants down lying and sued to oblivion. Or the fact that many countries banned vaccines like AZ for certain people despite them pretty much having the same safety profile has their mRNA counterparts. Or them finding out about myo/pericarditis risk AFTER the fact. Like this is stuff you would want to know before taking the vaccines.
Not even really going to address how you think governments are always looking out for their citizens. Just lol. And how secrets or controversies always come to light because the govt can't hide it. Yet chit like Tuskegee experiments went on for 40 years until somebody leaked it. As if the government has never done any wrong. I don't necessarily think they are malicious but they do phuck up in many instances. Many people are afraid to even speak up about it for fear of retribution or just are being censored. Hell, everybody thought the lab leak and vaccine passports were just conspiracy theory. Look where we are at now.
Ask anybody before this chit happened if they would have been for all of these losses of mobility and freedom and whether they would agree with vaccine passports to enter establishments. Or from the very beginning of this. Most people would have said nah that's going to far or nah that's insane they would never do that. 18 months of brainwashing later and they wouldn't even stop to think that whatever the govt is doing is normal or a reasonable response not to mention the inconsistencies, they've just been conditioned to accept that it is the right thing.
alot of your statements could be applied right back to how scientists, and the media themselves are reporting covid. Like they don't distinguish at all people dying with covid versus of covid. Yet these same people will say well did he die because of the vaccine or did he die while being vaccinated. Like, at least be upfront and honest when people say "600K" covid deaths that the majority of these are "with" covid and these people had comorbidities to begin with. They will say something eye popping like "unvaccinated 25x more likely to die", meanwhile, your chances of dying to begin with is like 0.0001%. They say this stuff to fear monger people into submission and obedience of whatever insane policies they come up with and whatever they come up with in the future. Basically gaslighting people into supporting chit like vaccine passports because they've been told to believe this chit is wiping out half the population.
Or they might say something like, 20% of those hospitalized experience long-covid. Meanwhile symptoms like fatigue are basically what constitute long-covid. I think what most people here are concerned about are the long-term effects of a vaccine that uses mRNA and viral-vector, which are relatively new in terms of it being brought to the market rather than more acute effects. Although if you're young, healthy, and had covid already why would you take the vaccine aside from convenience and to participate in society, travel, etc.
No it isn't the same type of people who don't believe in the moon landing. Based on how the media has reported this, draconian lockdowns, pushing the vaccine non-stop on people through chit like lotteries and donuts, how the so called "experts" have been wrong and flip-flopped positions constantly, them just parroting the same like the NPCs with no thoughts of their own. Let's not even mention how companies like Pfizer and Moderna have been caught with their pants down lying and sued to oblivion. Or the fact that many countries banned vaccines like AZ for certain people despite them pretty much having the same safety profile has their mRNA counterparts. Or them finding out about myo/pericarditis risk AFTER the fact. Like this is stuff you would want to know before taking the vaccines.
Not even really going to address how you think governments are always looking out for their citizens. Just lol. And how secrets or controversies always come to light because the govt can't hide it. Yet chit like Tuskegee experiments went on for 40 years until somebody leaked it. As if the government has never done any wrong. I don't necessarily think they are malicious but they do phuck up in many instances. Many people are afraid to even speak up about it for fear of retribution or just are being censored. Hell, everybody thought the lab leak and vaccine passports were just conspiracy theory. Look where we are at now.
Ask anybody before this chit happened if they would have been for all of these losses of mobility and freedom and whether they would agree with vaccine passports to enter establishments. Or from the very beginning of this. Most people would have said nah that's going to far or nah that's insane they would never do that. 18 months of brainwashing later and they wouldn't even stop to think that whatever the govt is doing is normal or a reasonable response not to mention the inconsistencies, they've just been conditioned to accept that it is the right thing.
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08-26-2021, 11:27 AM
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08-26-2021, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted By sooby⏩
reppednot everybody who doesn't want the vaccine subscribes to theories like muh 5G, Bill Gates, bio-weapon, etc
alot of your statements could be applied right back to how scientists, and the media themselves are reporting covid. Likethey don't distinguish at all people dying with covid versus of covid. Yet these same people will say well did he die because of the vaccine or did he die while being vaccinated. Like, at leastbe upfront and honest when people say "600K" covid deaths that the majority of these are "with" covid and these people had comorbiditiesto begin with. They will say something eye popping like"unvaccinated 25x more likely to die", meanwhile, your chances of dying to begin with is like 0.0001%.They say this stuff to fear monger people into submission and obedience of whatever insane policies they come up with and whatever they come up with in the future. Basically gaslighting people into supporting chit like vaccine passports because they've been told to believe this chit is wiping out half the population.
Or they might say something like, 20% of those hospitalized experience long-covid. Meanwhile symptoms like fatigue are basically what constitute long-covid. I think what most people here are concerned about are the long-term effects of a vaccine that uses mRNA and viral-vector, which are relatively new in terms of it being brought to the market rather than more acute effects. Although if you're young, healthy, and had covid already why would you take the vaccine aside from convenience and to participate in society, travel, etc.
No it isn't the same type of people who don't believe in the moon landing. Based on how the media has reported this, draconian lockdowns, pushing the vaccine non-stop on people through chit like lotteries and donuts, how the so called "experts" have been wrong and flip-flopped positions constantly, them just parroting the same like the NPCs with no thoughts of their own. Let's not even mention how companies like Pfizer and Moderna have been caught with their pants down lying and sued to oblivion. Or the fact that many countries banned vaccines like AZ for certain people despite them pretty much having the same safety profile has their mRNA counterparts. Or them finding out about myo/pericarditis risk AFTER the fact. Like this is stuff you would want to know before taking the vaccines.
Not even really going to address how you think governments are always looking out for their citizens. Just lol. And how secrets or controversies always come to light because the govt can't hide it. Yet chit like Tuskegee experiments went on for 40 years until somebody leaked it. As if the government has never done any wrong.I don't necessarily think they are malicious but they do phuck up in many instances. Many people are afraid to even speak up about it for fear of retribution or just are being censored. Hell, everybody thought the lab leak and vaccine passports were just conspiracy theory. Look where we are at now.
Ask anybody before this chit happened if they would have been for all of these losses of mobility and freedom and whether they would agree with vaccine passports to enter establishments. Or from the very beginning of this. Most people would have said nah that's going to far or nah that's insane they would never do that. 18 months of brainwashing later and they wouldn't even stop to think that whatever the govt is doing is normal or a reasonable response not to mention the inconsistencies, they've just been conditioned to accept that it is the right thing.
alot of your statements could be applied right back to how scientists, and the media themselves are reporting covid. Likethey don't distinguish at all people dying with covid versus of covid. Yet these same people will say well did he die because of the vaccine or did he die while being vaccinated. Like, at leastbe upfront and honest when people say "600K" covid deaths that the majority of these are "with" covid and these people had comorbiditiesto begin with. They will say something eye popping like"unvaccinated 25x more likely to die", meanwhile, your chances of dying to begin with is like 0.0001%.They say this stuff to fear monger people into submission and obedience of whatever insane policies they come up with and whatever they come up with in the future. Basically gaslighting people into supporting chit like vaccine passports because they've been told to believe this chit is wiping out half the population.
Or they might say something like, 20% of those hospitalized experience long-covid. Meanwhile symptoms like fatigue are basically what constitute long-covid. I think what most people here are concerned about are the long-term effects of a vaccine that uses mRNA and viral-vector, which are relatively new in terms of it being brought to the market rather than more acute effects. Although if you're young, healthy, and had covid already why would you take the vaccine aside from convenience and to participate in society, travel, etc.
No it isn't the same type of people who don't believe in the moon landing. Based on how the media has reported this, draconian lockdowns, pushing the vaccine non-stop on people through chit like lotteries and donuts, how the so called "experts" have been wrong and flip-flopped positions constantly, them just parroting the same like the NPCs with no thoughts of their own. Let's not even mention how companies like Pfizer and Moderna have been caught with their pants down lying and sued to oblivion. Or the fact that many countries banned vaccines like AZ for certain people despite them pretty much having the same safety profile has their mRNA counterparts. Or them finding out about myo/pericarditis risk AFTER the fact. Like this is stuff you would want to know before taking the vaccines.
Not even really going to address how you think governments are always looking out for their citizens. Just lol. And how secrets or controversies always come to light because the govt can't hide it. Yet chit like Tuskegee experiments went on for 40 years until somebody leaked it. As if the government has never done any wrong.I don't necessarily think they are malicious but they do phuck up in many instances. Many people are afraid to even speak up about it for fear of retribution or just are being censored. Hell, everybody thought the lab leak and vaccine passports were just conspiracy theory. Look where we are at now.
Ask anybody before this chit happened if they would have been for all of these losses of mobility and freedom and whether they would agree with vaccine passports to enter establishments. Or from the very beginning of this. Most people would have said nah that's going to far or nah that's insane they would never do that. 18 months of brainwashing later and they wouldn't even stop to think that whatever the govt is doing is normal or a reasonable response not to mention the inconsistencies, they've just been conditioned to accept that it is the right thing.
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08-26-2021, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted By PatheticPeter⏩
Love this for usThis doesnt end when we all obey; it ends when we stop obeying.
08-26-2021, 12:21 PM
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Just get ready to fight.
This only ends when you make it end.
When a bully pushes you around theres no one to stop them but you. You punch them in the nose and make them bleed, and if you get wrecked, you get wrecked, but at least you fight back.
I just hate to see the cops/military/national guard etc supporting these "leaders" who are directing them to do un American things. Those are the people who are going to have hard choices soon, do you work against or for society? No job is worth your freedom. But when it comes time to fight this, they need to make the choice to obey and kill Americans or turn on their evil masters.
This only ends when you make it end.
When a bully pushes you around theres no one to stop them but you. You punch them in the nose and make them bleed, and if you get wrecked, you get wrecked, but at least you fight back.
I just hate to see the cops/military/national guard etc supporting these "leaders" who are directing them to do un American things. Those are the people who are going to have hard choices soon, do you work against or for society? No job is worth your freedom. But when it comes time to fight this, they need to make the choice to obey and kill Americans or turn on their evil masters.
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08-26-2021, 12:23 PM
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Lol @ caving in and not even asking for an exemption
08-26-2021, 01:01 PM
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08-26-2021, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted By PermaBulk610⏩
Honestly freedom is choice. Seems like Botha sides are struggling with this.People are cowards. Most of them are willing to trade their freedoms for the illusion of safety. Don't fold.
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08-26-2021, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Ravishing_Rick⏩
I don't disagree with that at all, I'm not totally comfortable with mandates either. All I'm saying is that the vaccine is safe and it's not a big deal, and in my opinion from everything I've researched, it's smarter to get it, and that it's not a viewpoint the right should adopt.the simple fact is i dont want to take it
and i dont want to forced or pressured into taking it
that is all
(my body my choice)
didnt mention any conspiracies
and i dont want to forced or pressured into taking it
that is all
(my body my choice)
didnt mention any conspiracies
08-26-2021, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted By 3fifty⏩
Shut up bytchAll I'm saying is that the vaccine is safe and it's not a big deal,
08-26-2021, 04:27 PM
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08-26-2021, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted By 3fifty⏩
Only one side is demanding everyone take the same course of action they take, and as usual it’s the left. I agree that it seems most people can probably get the vaccine with little to no issues, but we don’t know the long term effects and we don’t know how long they’re gonna expect people to keep getting vaccinated. If the 2nd shot resulted in more side effects than the 1st what is the 3rd gonna be like. How about the 4th? How about the 17th? Plus natural immunity lasts much longer than “immunity” provided by the vaccine. If I’m in my 30’s, exercise regularly, supplement with vitamins and minerals, have a great sleep schedule, and zero underlying health conditions then how can you tell me it’s smarter to get it?I don't disagree with that at all, I'm not totally comfortable with mandates either. All I'm saying is that the vaccine is safe and it's not a big deal, and in my opinion from everything I've researched, it's smarter to get it, and that it's not a viewpoint the right should adopt.
08-26-2021, 04:52 PM
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It really is the perfect scam.
Alienate the unvaccinated and make all these demands. Enough people will finally cave in and get the vaccine..
..whoops now we need boosters. Oh you don't want a booster? Sorry you can't fly anywhere or go to the grocery store, stop being selfish, it's just 1 booster. Enough people finally cave in and get the booster...
Oh geez it mutated again, this is horrible, but hey we have this new pill you can take that will boost your immune system, it will need to be taken once a day. You don't want to take the pill once a day? That's fine, but we can't allow you to work, fly, go to school or do anything, we are in a pandemic!
I was never a conspiracy theorist, but the past 2 years has proven this world is just a big fraud lol.
Alienate the unvaccinated and make all these demands. Enough people will finally cave in and get the vaccine..
..whoops now we need boosters. Oh you don't want a booster? Sorry you can't fly anywhere or go to the grocery store, stop being selfish, it's just 1 booster. Enough people finally cave in and get the booster...
Oh geez it mutated again, this is horrible, but hey we have this new pill you can take that will boost your immune system, it will need to be taken once a day. You don't want to take the pill once a day? That's fine, but we can't allow you to work, fly, go to school or do anything, we are in a pandemic!
I was never a conspiracy theorist, but the past 2 years has proven this world is just a big fraud lol.
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08-26-2021, 04:53 PM
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tough times boyos my cucked province (BC) is rolling out vaccine passports until at least jan '22
it's gonna be a long four months fml
any vancouver miscers wanna get yucky before our freedoms are stripped away?
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it's gonna be a long four months fml
any vancouver miscers wanna get yucky before our freedoms are stripped away?
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08-27-2021, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted By jackamo2887⏩
I find it unethical for provaxxers to get a 3rd shot, when a lot of the world hasn't received one.It really is the perfect scam.
Alienate the unvaccinated and make all these demands. Enough people will finally cave in and get the vaccine..
..whoops now we need boosters. Oh you don't want a booster? Sorry you can't fly anywhere or go to the grocery store, stop being selfish, it's just 1 booster. Enough people finally cave in and get the booster...
Oh geez it mutated again, this is horrible, but hey we have this new pill you can take that will boost your immune system, it will need to be taken once a day. You don't want to take the pill once a day? That's fine, but we can't allow you to work, fly, go to school or do anything, we are in a pandemic!
I was never a conspiracy theorist, but the past 2 years has proven this world is just a big fraud lol.
Alienate the unvaccinated and make all these demands. Enough people will finally cave in and get the vaccine..
..whoops now we need boosters. Oh you don't want a booster? Sorry you can't fly anywhere or go to the grocery store, stop being selfish, it's just 1 booster. Enough people finally cave in and get the booster...
Oh geez it mutated again, this is horrible, but hey we have this new pill you can take that will boost your immune system, it will need to be taken once a day. You don't want to take the pill once a day? That's fine, but we can't allow you to work, fly, go to school or do anything, we are in a pandemic!
I was never a conspiracy theorist, but the past 2 years has proven this world is just a big fraud lol.
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08-27-2021, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted By 3fifty⏩
Well thought out post.Eh, I just don't get it guys.
All the "millions of reports of adverse effects" aren't official reports and findings. To me that statement holds about as much water as "millions of people have reported seeing UFOs" - as in... where'd you get that stat... published and peer reviewed scientific findings? No, it's like rumors on ********. "Adverse reactions" is also such a vague term. It's normal to feel a cold after you get the shot for a short period of time - I did. I felt bad for like 10 hours after my 2nd shot (Moderna) and then was fine, it's your body fighting off something it recognizes and that cold is much more controlled than the real thing. Feeling 2% tired is an "adverse reaction".
Yes, occasionally people have adverse reactions. What you have to look at in a case like this are the peer reviewed official studies to see what % of people had dangerous reactions, and it's really low, much lower than covid even for healthy people.
The issue I see with all of this is that it's borderline conspiracy-theory mentality, it's the same type of people who believe there's a chance we didn't land on the moon who believe that the dangers of the vaccine are far worse than what's statistically reported from various agencies around the entire planet.
Here's the reality, people can't keep secrets that well. Governments are always looking for ways to one-up another and better their citizens, it's the modern warfare. If the top official science labs in XYZ country were shown to lie, it will come to light. Too many people know about these things, endless amounts of others review the published data and look for inconstancies, you can't keep these secrets, and XYZ country wouldloveto call out ABC country for being a fraud and lying to it's citizens, making them look bad. Tens of thousands of people are involved in researching these vaccines, the findings are meticulously detailed and logged with encryption, you just can't hide **** like that across tons of countries across the world.
Something this serious across billions of humans means that the facts are pretty much out. The vaccine doesn't seem nearly dangerous enough to me compared to the seriousness of Covid to avoid getting it, or taking a political position against it.
I stand with all of you when I say I hate how politicians (in left leaning states) were so quick to shut things down, because they knew the economy being bad would hurt Trumps re-election chances. I'm convinced personally that they did that, because they are borderline brainwashed into think he's bad, primarily by the media. They convinced themselves by being so strict with lockdowns, hurting the economy, they were hurting Trump. I wanted him to get re-elected.
I support the right because in my mind, the majority of them are the more calm, intellectual group (right now that is, wasn't always the case, 15 years ago may have been a different story). It would disappoint me to see those of you on the right using this issue as a "right vs left" issue, because it's not, and you're hurting the chances of the people on the right to succeed.
All the "millions of reports of adverse effects" aren't official reports and findings. To me that statement holds about as much water as "millions of people have reported seeing UFOs" - as in... where'd you get that stat... published and peer reviewed scientific findings? No, it's like rumors on ********. "Adverse reactions" is also such a vague term. It's normal to feel a cold after you get the shot for a short period of time - I did. I felt bad for like 10 hours after my 2nd shot (Moderna) and then was fine, it's your body fighting off something it recognizes and that cold is much more controlled than the real thing. Feeling 2% tired is an "adverse reaction".
Yes, occasionally people have adverse reactions. What you have to look at in a case like this are the peer reviewed official studies to see what % of people had dangerous reactions, and it's really low, much lower than covid even for healthy people.
The issue I see with all of this is that it's borderline conspiracy-theory mentality, it's the same type of people who believe there's a chance we didn't land on the moon who believe that the dangers of the vaccine are far worse than what's statistically reported from various agencies around the entire planet.
Here's the reality, people can't keep secrets that well. Governments are always looking for ways to one-up another and better their citizens, it's the modern warfare. If the top official science labs in XYZ country were shown to lie, it will come to light. Too many people know about these things, endless amounts of others review the published data and look for inconstancies, you can't keep these secrets, and XYZ country wouldloveto call out ABC country for being a fraud and lying to it's citizens, making them look bad. Tens of thousands of people are involved in researching these vaccines, the findings are meticulously detailed and logged with encryption, you just can't hide **** like that across tons of countries across the world.
Something this serious across billions of humans means that the facts are pretty much out. The vaccine doesn't seem nearly dangerous enough to me compared to the seriousness of Covid to avoid getting it, or taking a political position against it.
I stand with all of you when I say I hate how politicians (in left leaning states) were so quick to shut things down, because they knew the economy being bad would hurt Trumps re-election chances. I'm convinced personally that they did that, because they are borderline brainwashed into think he's bad, primarily by the media. They convinced themselves by being so strict with lockdowns, hurting the economy, they were hurting Trump. I wanted him to get re-elected.
I support the right because in my mind, the majority of them are the more calm, intellectual group (right now that is, wasn't always the case, 15 years ago may have been a different story). It would disappoint me to see those of you on the right using this issue as a "right vs left" issue, because it's not, and you're hurting the chances of the people on the right to succeed.
You forgot one big thing - the US govmt lies about everything and is owned by the elite and big corporations.
The US govmt also does not care about US citizens regardless of race. In particular in the last year it has actively demonized whites.
Prove me wrong.
08-27-2021, 08:01 AM
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08-27-2021, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted By 3fifty⏩
Your mindset on conspiracy theories and theorist is ignorant. Imagine this. You are a US citizen in the year 1962 and you hear from a whistleblower that the United States is going to shoot down a mock civilian airplane over Cuba. Then detonate REAL explosions across Miami, killing citizens. This plan would be orchestrated and executed by the CIA and was put on the President's desk with the approval signature from the Joint Chiefs of Staff. That President refused to sign it and was coincidentally assassinated.If there's a rebuttal to that ^, I'd like to hear it.
Ok, 99.9% of people would have your current mindset of "thats impossible" and "How can that many people keep a secret?". But look, its all right here on WIKIPEDIA for god's sake.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
The previously secret document was originally made public on 18 November 1997, by the John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Review Board,[7] a U.S. federal agency overseeing the release of government records related to John F. Kennedy's assassination.[8][9] A total of 1,521 pages of once-secret military records covering 1962 to 1964 were concomitantly declassified by said Review Board.
Imagine thousands of people across the world trying to piece this story together with one or two missing facts. They would all be loony traders with tin foil hats, as we see the labeling present day.
Understand that major life altering conspiracies are going on around you everyday. Some relate to false flag operations as seen above that promote the military industrial complex, some relate to BIG Pharma industrial complex. Follow the money my friend and try not to associate the opinions of others with lunacy until you can prove them wrong.
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08-29-2021, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted By 3fifty⏩
Eh, I just don't get it guys.
All the "millions of reports of adverse effects" aren't official reports and findings. To me that statement holds about as much water as "millions of people have reported seeing UFOs" - as in... where'd you get that stat... published and peer reviewed scientific findings? No, it's like rumors on ********. "Adverse reactions" is also such a vague term. It's normal to feel a cold after you get the shot for a short period of time - I did. I felt bad for like 10 hours after my 2nd shot (Moderna) and then was fine, it's your body fighting off something it recognizes and that cold is much more controlled than the real thing. Feeling 2% tired is an "adverse reaction".
Yes, occasionally people have adverse reactions. What you have to look at in a case like this are the peer reviewed official studies to see what % of people had dangerous reactions, and it's really low, much lower than covid even for healthy people.
The issue I see with all of this is that it's borderline conspiracy-theory mentality, it's the same type of people who believe there's a chance we didn't land on the moon who believe that the dangers of the vaccine are far worse than what's statistically reported from various agencies around the entire planet.
Here's the reality, people can't keep secrets that well. Governments are always looking for ways to one-up another and better their citizens, it's the modern warfare. If the top official science labs in XYZ country were shown to lie, it will come to light. Too many people know about these things, endless amounts of others review the published data and look for inconstancies, you can't keep these secrets, and XYZ country wouldloveto call out ABC country for being a fraud and lying to it's citizens, making them look bad. Tens of thousands of people are involved in researching these vaccines, the findings are meticulously detailed and logged with encryption, you just can't hide **** like that across tons of countries across the world.
Something this serious across billions of humans means that the facts are pretty much out. The vaccine doesn't seem nearly dangerous enough to me compared to the seriousness of Covid to avoid getting it, or taking a political position against it.
I stand with all of you when I say I hate how politicians (in left leaning states) were so quick to shut things down, because they knew the economy being bad would hurt Trumps re-election chances. I'm convinced personally that they did that, because they are borderline brainwashed into think he's bad, primarily by the media. They convinced themselves by being so strict with lockdowns, hurting the economy, they were hurting Trump. I wanted him to get re-elected.
I support the right because in my mind, the majority of them are the more calm, intellectual group (right now that is, wasn't always the case, 15 years ago may have been a different story). It would disappoint me to see those of you on the right using this issue as a "right vs left" issue, because it's not, and you're hurting the chances of the people on the right to succeed.
All the "millions of reports of adverse effects" aren't official reports and findings. To me that statement holds about as much water as "millions of people have reported seeing UFOs" - as in... where'd you get that stat... published and peer reviewed scientific findings? No, it's like rumors on ********. "Adverse reactions" is also such a vague term. It's normal to feel a cold after you get the shot for a short period of time - I did. I felt bad for like 10 hours after my 2nd shot (Moderna) and then was fine, it's your body fighting off something it recognizes and that cold is much more controlled than the real thing. Feeling 2% tired is an "adverse reaction".
Yes, occasionally people have adverse reactions. What you have to look at in a case like this are the peer reviewed official studies to see what % of people had dangerous reactions, and it's really low, much lower than covid even for healthy people.
The issue I see with all of this is that it's borderline conspiracy-theory mentality, it's the same type of people who believe there's a chance we didn't land on the moon who believe that the dangers of the vaccine are far worse than what's statistically reported from various agencies around the entire planet.
Here's the reality, people can't keep secrets that well. Governments are always looking for ways to one-up another and better their citizens, it's the modern warfare. If the top official science labs in XYZ country were shown to lie, it will come to light. Too many people know about these things, endless amounts of others review the published data and look for inconstancies, you can't keep these secrets, and XYZ country wouldloveto call out ABC country for being a fraud and lying to it's citizens, making them look bad. Tens of thousands of people are involved in researching these vaccines, the findings are meticulously detailed and logged with encryption, you just can't hide **** like that across tons of countries across the world.
Something this serious across billions of humans means that the facts are pretty much out. The vaccine doesn't seem nearly dangerous enough to me compared to the seriousness of Covid to avoid getting it, or taking a political position against it.
I stand with all of you when I say I hate how politicians (in left leaning states) were so quick to shut things down, because they knew the economy being bad would hurt Trumps re-election chances. I'm convinced personally that they did that, because they are borderline brainwashed into think he's bad, primarily by the media. They convinced themselves by being so strict with lockdowns, hurting the economy, they were hurting Trump. I wanted him to get re-elected.
I support the right because in my mind, the majority of them are the more calm, intellectual group (right now that is, wasn't always the case, 15 years ago may have been a different story). It would disappoint me to see those of you on the right using this issue as a "right vs left" issue, because it's not, and you're hurting the chances of the people on the right to succeed.
Originally Posted By Gizzyhardcore⏩
if you guys still believe this sht at this point, I don't know what to say.Kid you are happily shoveling down your throat such BS as " Tens of thousands have died as a direct result of the vaccine"
You're literally retarded, but then again you are American right and some huge % of you can't even find your own country on a map, so overall its not too surprising.
You're literally retarded, but then again you are American right and some huge % of you can't even find your own country on a map, so overall its not too surprising.
one last ditch effort to save you, just listen to some of the experts RFK has had on his podcast:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...t/id1552000243
He's doing God's work.
I simply cannot get over the fact that so many people are okay with this vax sht. It is amazing how much lower my faith in humans has dropped over the past 2 years, and it was really, really low to begin with.
Absolute automatons. Starting to have serious doubts about whether most people even have souls. Really disappointing stuff.
08-29-2021, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted By John$Galt⏩
In case you've missed it:if you guys still believe this sht at this point, I don't know what to say.
one last ditch effort to save you, just listen to some of the experts RFK has had on his podcast:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...t/id1552000243
He's doing God's work.
I simply cannot get over the fact that so many people are okay with this vax sht. It is amazing how much lower my faith in humans has dropped over the past 2 years, and it was really, really low to begin with.
Absolute automatons. Starting to have serious doubts about whether most people even have souls. Really disappointing stuff.
one last ditch effort to save you, just listen to some of the experts RFK has had on his podcast:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...t/id1552000243
He's doing God's work.
I simply cannot get over the fact that so many people are okay with this vax sht. It is amazing how much lower my faith in humans has dropped over the past 2 years, and it was really, really low to begin with.
Absolute automatons. Starting to have serious doubts about whether most people even have souls. Really disappointing stuff.
That so many people seem to be okay with mandates is what breaks my brain.
"If you don't agree to be buttf*cked by this date then you will be fired."
"But I don't want to be buttf*cked, I'm not into anal. That would be rape."
"Oh, it isn't rape. It's consensual. But everyone is going to have to get buttf*cked. Every employer is going to require it. You are going to have to get buttf*cked if you want to travel, or maybe even just to go buy groceries. You may as well bend over now. It's only a matter of time."
"Yeah, spread your cheeks already. I had to get buttf*cked. What makes you so special? Everyone else has to get buttf*cked too, otherwise I will feel bad about letting myself get buttf*cked."
Sorry to be so crude, but the whole thing makes me ridiculously angry if I spend anytime thinking about it. I don't know how anyone can see the recent story of the judge taking away parenting time from a woman because she hasn't had the COVID vax."But I don't want to be buttf*cked, I'm not into anal. That would be rape."
"Oh, it isn't rape. It's consensual. But everyone is going to have to get buttf*cked. Every employer is going to require it. You are going to have to get buttf*cked if you want to travel, or maybe even just to go buy groceries. You may as well bend over now. It's only a matter of time."
"Yeah, spread your cheeks already. I had to get buttf*cked. What makes you so special? Everyone else has to get buttf*cked too, otherwise I will feel bad about letting myself get buttf*cked."
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08-29-2021, 08:27 AM
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"bro i dont care, i got bills to pay and mouths to feed!"
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08-29-2021, 07:56 PM
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08-29-2021, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted By Ikarsuz1337⏩
"bro i dont care, i got bills to pay and mouths to feed!"
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08-29-2021, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted By Ravishing_Rick⏩
How long before opie caves in?I think about 90% of my family has gotten the vax
alot of people i talk to has gotten the vax
sooner or later they will start per pressuring me
but i will never cave
i thought people were stronger than this
alot of people i talk to has gotten the vax
sooner or later they will start per pressuring me
but i will never cave
i thought people were stronger than this
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Originally Posted By TryingBB⏩
not happeningHow long before opie caves in?
i love to travel but if they ask for a vaccine passport ill stay home
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08-29-2021, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
atleast we can agree on something bb .Having had your body fight off Covid does not make big pharma any money.
)))"Movin' ahead so life won't pass me by."
08-29-2021, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted By A0wner21⏩
trueJust do small road trips if that ever occurs
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