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post 1684340173 06-10-2023, 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS
Still enjoying game, but I'm finding a lot of annoyances for sure...

Why go through so much effort to make it more MMO like, but cut out so much of what makes MMO's good? No trading? No auction house? Not even a global chat?

They made almost no reason whatsoever for this to be even an online based game aside from purely playing with other people.

Another thing is that so much of what you can do isn't unlocked until later on. Most builds don't REALLY start coming to life until the 60's or so when you can really get going on the paragon board. That kind of sucks for casuals like myself who only have an hour or two a day to play. I've been playing for nearly a week and still only level 38.
I am willing to bet they couldn't finish these online functionalities on time so they pushed it all to season 1 srs.

The few days early access for the higher tiers wasn't just a bouns but also a way for Blizz to soft-launch the game before actual release. And you are correct D4 would be in a different tier if the game had global chat and trade and that level 60 is where the fun begins. My rogue os blasting now at level 61 vs when it was at level 50.
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my god this game is so mindless

not that diablo 2 was exactly rocketscience but it felt way better
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Originally Posted By 7empest
my god this game is so mindless

not that diablo 2 was exactly rocketscience but it felt way better
I disagree, it seems like a solid foundation for many great expansions and crazy ideas. Also as R3L3NTL3SS said the game really kicks off at level 60 once you started doing Nightmare dngs and Paragon Board kicks off.
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Do we know anything about seasons yet? I’ll have to see what the rewards are. I wasn’t big on them in D3. Played it off and on for years and I think I only finished a season once.
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Finished the campaign last night at 45, did a round of Whispering Tree quests and started ticking off side quests since my log was full of dungeon quests. Which eventually led to even more side quests as I've kept uncovering areas to get waypoints and renown. Yeah we'll be here for a while. Haven't done the capstone or whatever dungeon yet in Kyovashad, still diking around in WT1.

Imo the campaign started out pretty strong with the first two Acts, then fell off a bit with Acts 3-4. I liked the last two Acts, although maybe the last one dragged on for a bit. Cutscene was pretty cool though.

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Spoiler!

Yeah they did Donan dirty.

Dude who defeated and sealed Astaroth, kept schit running for decades, goes through personal tragedy losing it all, then overcomes his grief with the peyote trip to do some crucial heavy lifting gets fisted to death by a random piece of furniture. By all accounts he's one of the most experienced and capable Horadrim and he goes out like some bimbo in a slasher movie. No idea why they couldn't send him off against Astaroth and what the fuking point of even showing Astaroth in Hell was.

I thought Neyrelle was ok, definitely a massive improvement over Leah.

Lorath on the other hand is just an insufferable ass. Yeah I get it, he's supposed to be disillusioned and cynical and whatnot, but he just felt like an alchie hobo tour guide pointing fingers to the next direction. Voice acting was on point though.

Now that I think about it he made a deal with the Tree for no reason at all, so that was pointless.

I also have no idea how Prava managed to survive.




edit: yeah I'm rerolling the rest of my toons, having the mount and the Whispering Tree from the start is just such a massive boost. No way I'm finishing the campaign with the rest. Rolled a druid for fun, did a quick dungeon and some events for the 10 grim favours, got a bunch of rares from the cache and hit lvl 10.
post 1684356373 06-10-2023, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble
Finished the campaign last night at 45, did a round of Whispering Tree quests and started ticking off side quests since my log was full of dungeon quests. Which eventually led to even more side quests as I've kept uncovering areas to get waypoints and renown. Yeah we'll be here for a while. Haven't done the capstone or whatever dungeon yet in Kyovashad, still diking around in WT1.

Imo the campaign started out pretty strong with the first two Acts, then fell off a bit with Acts 3-4. I liked the last two Acts, although maybe the last one dragged on for a bit. Cutscene was pretty cool though.

More opinions in spoilers:

Spoiler!

Yeah they did Donan dirty.

Dude who defeated and sealed Astaroth, kept schit running for decades, goes through personal tragedy losing it all, then overcomes his grief with the peyote trip to do some crucial heavy lifting gets fisted to death by a random piece of furniture. By all accounts he's one of the most experienced and capable Horadrim and he goes out like some bimbo in a slasher movie. No idea why they couldn't send him off against Astaroth and what the fuking point of even showing Astaroth in Hell was.

I thought Neyrelle was ok, definitely a massive improvement over Leah.

Lorath on the other hand is just an insufferable ass. Yeah I get it, he's supposed to be disillusioned and cynical and whatnot, but he just felt like an alchie hobo tour guide pointing fingers to the next direction. Voice acting was on point though.

Now that I think about it he made a deal with the Tree for no reason at all, so that was pointless.

I also have no idea how Prava managed to survive.




edit: yeah I'm rerolling the rest of my toons, having the mount and the Whispering Tree from the start is just such a massive boost. No way I'm finishing the campaign with the rest. Rolled a druid for fun, did a quick dungeon and some events for the 10 grim favours, got a bunch of rares from the cache and hit lvl 10.
Thanks for letting us know what it's like when the skip campaign option. Plan on doing it during Season 1 I suppose, either for a necro, rogue, or barbarian. People always complain about the barbarian (and druid) early leveling, maybe skip campaign option makes it more tolerable.

Spoiler!


Bruh I didn't even really think about it, but so true. Donan should've had a final square off with Astaroth in Hell for sure. A decent cinematic where he held down the fort to enable the player to get to Lilith or something, where it was clear he was losing maybe, final words w/ him and Lorath saved for post-Lilith fight. But maybe the death-by-furniture was a more surprising twist, definitely wasn't expecting it at least. Probably saved Blizzard some $$$ not investing in a Astaroth vs Donan cinematic and such though.

Neyrelle's story driven by death of mother, desire to learn and be horadrim, taking adventurous but foolish actions from time to time, loss of arm, all was well done IMO. And her wandering off with Mephisto at the end actually seemed like something she'd do with all the character development and getting to know her. Everyone and their mom knows it's a fantastic setup for a DLC.

Lorath's deal with the tree was kinda dumb. I get the urgency, I get the emotions and desire to self-sacrifice a bit for speed (especially after watching everyone else lose something.... Donan's son, Neyrelle's arm, and more), since Lilith is always multiple steps ahead of our characters the whole time. Plot had always been "catch up to Lilith and Elias", then "oh no they killed people and setup demonic/cultist influence", it became an obvious patternistic loop by Act 3. But regarding Lorath, I guess it sets up the expansions' story later for him to die and have his head next to Elias on the tree eventually.

Prava should've absolutely died. Total carnage occurred, that cinematic with her being overwhelmed by demons should've been the final nail on the coffin she was totally helpless. Dumb she lived. They should've done the cinematic a little different to make more sense of how she lived, unless they plan to touch on that later in the expansion in a flashback or something. They're just keeping her alive for the later expansions I guess.
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Originally Posted By Visel
Thanks for letting us know what it's like when the skip campaign option. Plan on doing it during Season 1 I suppose, either for a necro, rogue, or barbarian. People always complain about the barbarian (and druid) early leveling, maybe skip campaign option makes it more tolerable.
Full disclosure, you only get like half a dozen waypoints and have to explore the rest of the map. This is what mine looks like after just starting.

Account wide renown unlocks (skill points, potions etc.) remain unlocked.

post 1684361133 06-10-2023, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble
Full disclosure, you only get like half a dozen waypoints and have to explore the rest of the map. This is what mine looks like after just starting.

Account wide renown unlocks (skill points, potions etc.) remain unlocked.

Thanks for showing this.

I've seen people argue though that mainstory is optimal to leave on because of its massive EXP. And of course you'll breeze through main story first if you already have mount and some of the other unlocks that you mentioned. Do you feel like the Tree of Whispers is sufficient exp gain from 1-50?
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Originally Posted By Visel
Thanks for showing this.

I've seen people argue though that mainstory is optimal to leave on because of its massive EXP. And of course you'll breeze through main story first if you already have mount and some of the other unlocks that you mentioned. Do you feel like the Tree of Whispers is sufficient exp gain from 1-50?
Don't think xp gain will be an issue, but imo even if somehow the campaign gave more xp/hour (doubt it, since nolifing/resetting dungeons seems to be the fastest way to level), having a mount from the very start instead of the beginning of Act 4 would more than compensate for it timewise.

My rogue with its perma speedboost from Dark Shroud - plus the mobility skills - can run past mobs no problem but it was still way slower than on horseback, plus on a mount you don't have to deal with those annoying ass bug swarm or whatever mobs that die in one hit but will blitz and slow you down as soon as they pop up on your screen. There were quite a few times when I just wanted to go from A to B asap and without getting bogged down with unwanted fights. So safe to say it's an even bigger boon on low mobility classes.
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beat campaign at 44 using twisting blades rogue, did some tree quests until 49, beat the dungeon to get to nightmare, and then did some helltides to 50+1 paragon.

probably gonna have to read through maxroll rogue guide to see what i want to do: either twisting blades build, or twisting blades/traps. right now the rogue feels kinda weak. i can kill most of the stuff i face, but there is a danger of dying if i'm not paying attention. my gear is still mostly old stuff from lvl 30-40. this is my main issue right now, because there are so many attributes to deal with, so i don't know if i should switch items or not. i can't even remember last time i switched my jewelry.

twitch.tv is having some drops promos for a month. this week they have some rogue weapon visuals, some backpack thing (instead of the pre-purchase wolf puppy), and something else. next week they're having something else. you have to watch a participating streamer for 3-6 hours. i just open the channel up in a different tab, and walk away from the computer or minimize the browser when i'm doing something else. i think the final visual will be a horse.
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post 1684365573 06-10-2023, 01:29 PM
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At last torment 4 unlocked and got my first ancestral gear going. Need to get to level 70 ASAP though, these nightmare dngs lvl 20+ are brutal as of now


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Dang, grats brah! What are your stats now, AP and so on?
post 1684366593 06-10-2023, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble
Dang, grats brah! What are your stats now, AP and so on?
Thanks broseph, here they are:

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Asking for a refund. **** this ****. After the Lilith cutscene, game starts its usual horse **** where it runs at 10 frames the entire time during the fight making it basically impossible to do ****. Killed her the first time, then in the second half where she comes back died half way through because the game was just ****ting itself at single digit frames and stuttering its ass off so bad. This is horse **** for an $80 game.
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS
Asking for a refund. **** this ****. After the Lilith cutscene, game starts its usual horse **** where it runs at 10 frames the entire time during the fight making it basically impossible to do ****. Killed her the first time, then in the second half where she comes back died half way through because the game was just ****ting itself at single digit frames and stuttering its ass off so bad. This is horse **** for an $80 game.
You might've posted it before so sorry, but what's your build (assuming PC)?

I had no issues so far, except 3 times where rubberbanding / disconnecting happened. Thankfully didn't occur during any important fights though.
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS
Asking for a refund. **** this ****. After the Lilith cutscene, game starts its usual horse **** where it runs at 10 frames the entire time during the fight making it basically impossible to do ****. Killed her the first time, then in the second half where she comes back died half way through because the game was just ****ting itself at single digit frames and stuttering its ass off so bad. This is horse **** for an $80 game.
sounds like ur computer is chit lol

my computer is 4 years old and it runs fine
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS
Asking for a refund. **** this ****. After the Lilith cutscene, game starts its usual horse **** where it runs at 10 frames the entire time during the fight making it basically impossible to do ****. Killed her the first time, then in the second half where she comes back died half way through because the game was just ****ting itself at single digit frames and stuttering its ass off so bad. This is horse **** for an $80 game.
I don't believe it is your system. It's likely latency if you are getting rubberbanding.


First try going into the settings and turn down the FPS to 60. Mine was set to 120!!

Whats likely happening is when you go into town, you are getting bad latency. This is the communication back-and-forth between you and the server. When I had a cable modem, the fix is getting a modem that bypassed my Internet providers throttling. During peak time, Internet providers will throttle, and this will destroy you in an online game. I went from constantly having yellow and orange latencies (very high) to constant green after my modem swap.

We are currently switching our Internet provider because the current one is so bad. I am rubberbanding all over the place
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Originally Posted By adamsz
sounds like ur computer is chit lol

my computer is 4 years old and it runs fine
Yes, my 5600X, 32GB memory, and 4070Ti is definitely the issue. I run the game at 160+ FPS on ultra settings at 1440 without even having to use DLSS with zero issues when the game isn't ****ting itself.
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Originally Posted By Kraken
I don't believe it is your system. It's likely latency if you are getting rubberbanding.


First try going into the settings and turn down the FPS to 60. Mine was set to 120!!

Whats likely happening is when you go into town, you are getting bad latency. This is the communication back-and-forth between you and the server. When I had a cable modem, the fix is getting a modem that bypassed my Internet providers throttling. During peak time, Internet providers will throttle, and this will destroy you in an online game. I went from constantly having yellow and orange latencies (very high) to constant green after my modem swap.

We are currently switching our Internet provider because the current one is so bad. I am rubberbanding all over the place
It's not rubber banding. I'm literally looking at my FPS just go into single digits for no reason when I go into or out of cutscenes, into/out of town, into menus, etc. Then it will randomly go back to 160+ FPS. Sometimes it only does it for 10 seconds, sometimes it's minutes.
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS
It's not rubber banding. I'm literally looking at my FPS just go into single digits for no reason when I go into or out of cutscenes, into/out of town, into menus, etc. Then it will randomly go back to 160+ FPS. Sometimes it only does it for 10 seconds, sometimes it's minutes.
Anything over 60-80 is overkill. No reason to be above that.

Perhaps you could make sure everything is updated, including your graphics card. You could also contact blizzard directly and sometimes they can help you troubleshoot. Open a ticket and give them your system information.
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS
It's not rubber banding. I'm literally looking at my FPS just go into single digits for no reason when I go into or out of cutscenes, into/out of town, into menus, etc. Then it will randomly go back to 160+ FPS. Sometimes it only does it for 10 seconds, sometimes it's minutes.
i have a 3090 and 1440p ultrawide qd-oled and it runs this game at like 160-180fps all ultra.. and to save energy/heat I capped the fps at 120 just for smoothness sake because honestly anyone running this game at 200-300 fps is just wasting power and unnecessary heat

i just think you are having some sort of driver confliction issue with previous driver installs. maybe a complete driver wipe with Display Driver Uninstaller and reinstall again with latest drivers, if the same issue happens some people use slighty older drivers.. despite what people say about nvidia, their drivers have issues just visit their subreddit and see all the issues people have.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comm...faqdiscussion/

check out all the complaints, mine on latest drivers run perfectly fine on all the games i play
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Originally Posted By rocketfish
i have a 3090 and 1440p ultrawide qd-oled and it runs this game at like 160-180fps all ultra.. and to save energy/heat I capped the fps at 120 just for smoothness sake because honestly anyone running this game at 200-300 fps is just wasting power and unnecessary heat

i just think you are having some sort of driver confliction issue with previous driver installs. maybe a complete driver wipe with Display Driver Uninstaller and reinstall again with latest drivers, if the same issue happens some people use slighty older drivers.. despite what people say about nvidia, their drivers have issues just visit their subreddit and see all the issues people have.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comm...faqdiscussion/

check out all the complaints, mine on latest drivers run perfectly fine on all the games i play
I might have to try rolling back. I’m on the latest driver and I just did DDU like 4 months or so ago when I got this card.
I’m just having a hard time believing it’s hardware or driver related and not just the game when it only does it when you open/close menus, go to/leave town, go in/out of cutscenes.
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS
I might have to try rolling back. I’m on the latest driver and I just did DDU like 4 months or so ago when I got this card.
I’m just having a hard time believing it’s hardware or driver related and not just the game when it only does it when you open/close menus, go to/leave town, go in/out of cutscenes.
as for the cutscenes there is a setting that reduces the FPS for the cinematic cutscenes, i disabled that so it stays smooth, as far as go to/leave town and menu's i'm not sure
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finished campaign

finished first 3 renown objectives in each zone for the skill points

did my first cap stone dungeon

what should I focus on now until 70 and the 2nd cap stone dungeon?

started with chain lightning but it felt pretty weak by end of campaign. Switched to ice shards today, def feels better but I think I need some more aspects and chit.
Awesome pics. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
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Originally Posted By adamsz
finished campaign

finished first 3 renown objectives in each zone for the skill points

did my first cap stone dungeon

what should I focus on now until 70 and the 2nd cap stone dungeon?

started with chain lightning but it felt pretty weak by end of campaign. Switched to ice shards today, def feels better but I think I need some more aspects and chit.
The ice shards build is very good with the way your other skills will synergize with it.


For instance for frozen enemies ice shards will deal 25% more damage, when you have a barrier up ice shards will always treat enemies as frozen, as well Ice shards will always ricochet off of frozen enemies. I've been using it melts.

Hoarding up enemies and then casting frost nova will not only make them frozen but vulnerable, then you case ice shards and everything on the screen just explodes.

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Playing TB rogue, first experiences after finishing WT3 capstone and dinging 51:

- feels like trash is overtuned while bosses are undertuned
- did a round of Tree quests and killed a world boss, these felt pretty ok
- tried Helltide, kept getting clapped if I didn't pay attention for a sec, got a chest piece and bailed
- decided to run a T1 NM dungeon to see what's up. Yeah, fuk that. Picked one with an affix where you gotta hide under a shield during the periodic thunderstorm that chunks your health, would not be an issue normally but then of course mobs put their oneshot bullschit under the shield that is conveniently also the size of the shield. Also got a small room with spiked traps and like 5 elite fatso zombies that charge and explode on death (both basically oneshots), plus some ranged ****s for good measure. Blew like 7 of my revives right there until I got the zipzapping around down, not the easiest with the added thunderstorm mechanic
- oneshot the boss on my last life, and didn't get a single gear upgrade from the whole dungeon, got some leggo dagger that was like 80 ilvls below what I'm using right now (at least got weapon upgrades previously)

Feels like I'm going to need more gear. Drops/itemization are whack though, if I switched my 450ilvl rare chest that I've had for about 15 levels to a 690 sacred legendary I would lose like 230 AP out of 2.3k I got right now. No, the leggo power wouldn't help either.
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Need to do the capstone dungeon but I’m strongly considering switching everything up to go thorns.
post 1684422563 06-11-2023, 12:29 PM
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Running a chain lightning sorc currently. Way better than werewolf druid. I need more max mana tho. How do i get more max mana?
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post 1684432993 06-11-2023, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted By TalonBrah
Running a chain lightning sorc currently. Way better than werewolf druid. I need more max mana tho. How do i get more max mana?
The only thing I'm aware of is Static Surge paragon board, which gives some rare nodes for +8 max mana, also will probably be one of the main paragon boards you want in general due to the extra damage to stunned enemies and such I presume.

I've been following Max Roll's Arc Lash build since early access... currently at stage 2/4 for the end game build, which emphasizes on ball lightning. In maybe 10-15 levels I'll reach stage 3/4 for burning w/ firebolt enhancement, then finally eventually stage 4/4 for max emphasis on ball lightning.
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It's amazing how incredibly boring they were able to make every quest and every thing you do. Nothing at all seems memorable.
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