Thread: Official John Vee thread
05-09-2026, 05:55 PM
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This update is much more revealing than the last one. There’s a lot going on underneath it psychologically and socially.
A few major things stood out immediately:
1. He’s More Self-Aware Than People Probably Assume
One of the biggest misconceptions internet communities make is:
awkward / isolated person = unintelligent or completely unaware
But John is actually fairly introspective at points.
For example:
he openly admits he quits easily out of frustration
he acknowledges he may “crash and burn” on the weight loss
he recognizes social skills atrophy without practice
he knows his channel isn’t serious content
he understands he uses it partly to stay verbally/socially functional
That’s not someone fully detached from reality.
The line:
“I mostly do this for myself… so I’m comfortable speaking”
is actually pretty insightful.
He’s basically using YouTube/forum posting as a low-stakes exposure therapy/socialization substitute.
2. The Schizophrenia Admission Changes Everything
The biggest new information is obviously the schizophrenia disclosure.
Schizophrenia fundamentally reframes a lot of his behavior:
isolation
paranoia themes
unstable functioning
difficulty maintaining momentum
emotional volatility
social alienation
periodic crashes
And importantly:
he describes it in a relatively grounded way:
diagnosed around 29
psychotic break
recurring episodes every few years
medicated
suicidal thinking during severe episodes
That’s actually a fairly sober description of severe mental illness.
He’s not glorifying it. He’s describing it as terrifying and destabilizing.
3. The Weight Loss / Face Reveal Plan Is Deeply Emotional
The hidden-face strategy is way more psychologically loaded than just:
“I want a transformation.”
It sounds tied to:
shame
identity
wanting redemption
wanting a “reveal”
fear of judgment
The structure is almost symbolic:
disappear
transform privately
return improved
disappear again
continue transforming
That’s less about fitness and more about self-worth.
And honestly, a lot of people — especially isolated men online — quietly fantasize about this kind of transformation arc.
4. The Insurance Training Story Is Extremely Important
This might be the most revealing section in the entire transcript:
“I lasted about 30 seconds.”
“Answered two questions wrong.”
“Yeah, [__] this.”
That is not laziness in the simple sense people online use it.
That sounds more like:
catastrophic frustration tolerance
shame-triggered avoidance
inability to emotionally absorb failure
possible cognitive overload/anxiety
People watching from the outside say:
“just keep studying.”
But internally, he may experience failure with overwhelming emotional intensity.
That can happen with:
ADHD
schizophrenia-spectrum conditions
chronic shame
long-term isolation
learned helplessness
5. He Wants Respect More Than Fame
Very important distinction.
He repeatedly frames things around:
dignity
being perceived correctly
respect
competence
leadership
not appearing pathetic
Even the high school “leader of the friend group” story mattered emotionally to him. You can tell.
That memory stuck because it’s evidence — in his mind — that:
“I wasn’t always a loser.”
That’s psychologically significant.
6. His Relationship With the Forum Is Dangerous but Also Stabilizing
The MISK/forum ecosystem is probably doing two opposite things simultaneously:
Harmful:
reinforces humiliation
encourages spectacle behavior
feeds insecurity
keeps him identity-locked as a “character”
Helpful:
gives social contact
gives routine
gives accountability
gives audience/community
lets him practice communication
Without it, he might become more isolated.
That’s the weird paradox of internet subcultures.
7. His Thinking About Addiction Was Surprisingly Mature
His advice to the recovering addict was actually pretty decent:
small goals
daily wins
reduction over perfection
proving capability to yourself
gradual progress
That’s not the advice of someone completely irrational.
Same with:
“socializing is like a muscle.”
That’s true.
8. But There Are Still Concerning Traits
There are definitely areas where his worldview becomes distorted:
extreme fixation on weight/appearance
hostility/defensiveness
black-and-white thinking
romanticized isolation
contempt toward certain people
low frustration tolerance
identity tied heavily to shame/status
And some comments toward women/weight clearly come from his own insecurity being projected outward.
Overall Read on John
At this point, I’d describe him as:
psychologically wounded,
socially isolated,
intermittently insightful,
emotionally dysregulated,
but not unintelligent or completely detached.
A few major things stood out immediately:
1. He’s More Self-Aware Than People Probably Assume
One of the biggest misconceptions internet communities make is:
awkward / isolated person = unintelligent or completely unaware
But John is actually fairly introspective at points.
For example:
he openly admits he quits easily out of frustration
he acknowledges he may “crash and burn” on the weight loss
he recognizes social skills atrophy without practice
he knows his channel isn’t serious content
he understands he uses it partly to stay verbally/socially functional
That’s not someone fully detached from reality.
The line:
“I mostly do this for myself… so I’m comfortable speaking”
is actually pretty insightful.
He’s basically using YouTube/forum posting as a low-stakes exposure therapy/socialization substitute.
2. The Schizophrenia Admission Changes Everything
The biggest new information is obviously the schizophrenia disclosure.
Schizophrenia fundamentally reframes a lot of his behavior:
isolation
paranoia themes
unstable functioning
difficulty maintaining momentum
emotional volatility
social alienation
periodic crashes
And importantly:
he describes it in a relatively grounded way:
diagnosed around 29
psychotic break
recurring episodes every few years
medicated
suicidal thinking during severe episodes
That’s actually a fairly sober description of severe mental illness.
He’s not glorifying it. He’s describing it as terrifying and destabilizing.
3. The Weight Loss / Face Reveal Plan Is Deeply Emotional
The hidden-face strategy is way more psychologically loaded than just:
“I want a transformation.”
It sounds tied to:
shame
identity
wanting redemption
wanting a “reveal”
fear of judgment
The structure is almost symbolic:
disappear
transform privately
return improved
disappear again
continue transforming
That’s less about fitness and more about self-worth.
And honestly, a lot of people — especially isolated men online — quietly fantasize about this kind of transformation arc.
4. The Insurance Training Story Is Extremely Important
This might be the most revealing section in the entire transcript:
“I lasted about 30 seconds.”
“Answered two questions wrong.”
“Yeah, [__] this.”
That is not laziness in the simple sense people online use it.
That sounds more like:
catastrophic frustration tolerance
shame-triggered avoidance
inability to emotionally absorb failure
possible cognitive overload/anxiety
People watching from the outside say:
“just keep studying.”
But internally, he may experience failure with overwhelming emotional intensity.
That can happen with:
ADHD
schizophrenia-spectrum conditions
chronic shame
long-term isolation
learned helplessness
5. He Wants Respect More Than Fame
Very important distinction.
He repeatedly frames things around:
dignity
being perceived correctly
respect
competence
leadership
not appearing pathetic
Even the high school “leader of the friend group” story mattered emotionally to him. You can tell.
That memory stuck because it’s evidence — in his mind — that:
“I wasn’t always a loser.”
That’s psychologically significant.
6. His Relationship With the Forum Is Dangerous but Also Stabilizing
The MISK/forum ecosystem is probably doing two opposite things simultaneously:
Harmful:
reinforces humiliation
encourages spectacle behavior
feeds insecurity
keeps him identity-locked as a “character”
Helpful:
gives social contact
gives routine
gives accountability
gives audience/community
lets him practice communication
Without it, he might become more isolated.
That’s the weird paradox of internet subcultures.
7. His Thinking About Addiction Was Surprisingly Mature
His advice to the recovering addict was actually pretty decent:
small goals
daily wins
reduction over perfection
proving capability to yourself
gradual progress
That’s not the advice of someone completely irrational.
Same with:
“socializing is like a muscle.”
That’s true.
8. But There Are Still Concerning Traits
There are definitely areas where his worldview becomes distorted:
extreme fixation on weight/appearance
hostility/defensiveness
black-and-white thinking
romanticized isolation
contempt toward certain people
low frustration tolerance
identity tied heavily to shame/status
And some comments toward women/weight clearly come from his own insecurity being projected outward.
Overall Read on John
At this point, I’d describe him as:
psychologically wounded,
socially isolated,
intermittently insightful,
emotionally dysregulated,
but not unintelligent or completely detached.
05-10-2026, 03:08 PM
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He sounds like someone whose life partially “froze” after serious mental illness emerged in early adulthood.
That happens more often than people realize.
A lot of internet viewers interpret people like John as:
“lazy weird guy lol”
when the reality is often closer to:
untreated/undertreated mental illness + shame + isolation + years of drifting + lost identity.
That doesn’t excuse everything he says or does. But it explains a lot more of the picture.
That happens more often than people realize.
A lot of internet viewers interpret people like John as:
“lazy weird guy lol”
when the reality is often closer to:
untreated/undertreated mental illness + shame + isolation + years of drifting + lost identity.
That doesn’t excuse everything he says or does. But it explains a lot more of the picture.
05-10-2026, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad⏩
check @12:25 i sent in a question about u and john had some good advice for u
He sounds like someone whose life partially “froze” after serious mental illness emerged in early adulthood.
That happens more often than people realize.
A lot of internet viewers interpret people like John as:
“lazy weird guy lol”
when the reality is often closer to:
untreated/undertreated mental illness + shame + isolation + years of drifting + lost identity.
That doesn’t excuse everything he says or does. But it explains a lot more of the picture.
That happens more often than people realize.
A lot of internet viewers interpret people like John as:
“lazy weird guy lol”
when the reality is often closer to:
untreated/undertreated mental illness + shame + isolation + years of drifting + lost identity.
That doesn’t excuse everything he says or does. But it explains a lot more of the picture.
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05-10-2026, 03:22 PM
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The part about the mental illness mainfesting itself in my 20s fucking up my life really resonated with me.
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Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad⏩
Deep
He sounds like someone whose life partially “froze” after serious mental illness emerged in early adulthood.
That happens more often than people realize.
A lot of internet viewers interpret people like John as:
“lazy weird guy lol”
when the reality is often closer to:
untreated/undertreated mental illness + shame + isolation + years of drifting + lost identity.
That doesn’t excuse everything he says or does. But it explains a lot more of the picture.
That happens more often than people realize.
A lot of internet viewers interpret people like John as:
“lazy weird guy lol”
when the reality is often closer to:
untreated/undertreated mental illness + shame + isolation + years of drifting + lost identity.
That doesn’t excuse everything he says or does. But it explains a lot more of the picture.
05-11-2026, 06:26 AM
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The reality of living with mental illness
My experience with schizophrenia.
My experience with schizophrenia.
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05-12-2026, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted By johnvee73⏩
This video is a personal account of living with schizophrenia, detailing the onset of the illness and its impact on the creator's life.Overview of DiagnosisOnset: The creator was diagnosed at approximately age 29 after entering a state of psychosis while working [00:32].Impact on Life: The diagnosis "derailed" his life. He initially attempted to start over out West but ended up in a homeless shelter in Ontario, eventually returning home [01:00].Treatment: His family doctor initially placed him on medication under the guise of treating anxiety, only later revealing it was for schizophrenia [01:50].Symptoms and ExperiencesDelusions of Grandeur: During intense psychotic episodes in his late 20s and early 30s, he believed he had heightened senses or superhero powers [02:49]. He also experienced religious delusions, believing he was a divine figure sent on a mission with the ability to heal the sick or predict the future [03:28].Paranoia: He struggled with the belief that a secret organization was monitoring him via satellite and plotting his capture [05:21].Behavioral Changes: The illness led to periods of neglecting personal hygiene and disrupted sleep patterns, often involving roaming the streets at night in distress [04:14].Mental Health Crisis: The severity of his delusions at one point led him to plan for suicide to escape perceived surveillance [05:43].ReflectionsThe creator describes his life as being "partially paralyzed" since his late 20s due to the manifestation of the illness [06:34]. He concludes by emphasizing the "harsh, brutal reality" that comes with managing a severe mental illness [07:03].
The reality of living with mental illness
My experience with schizophrenia.
My experience with schizophrenia.
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05-12-2026, 07:10 AM
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My experience with obesity
Just going over my experience with becoming very overweight.
Just going over my experience with becoming very overweight.
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05-12-2026, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted By johnvee73⏩
In the video "My experience with obesity," the speaker, John Vee, provides a candid and introspective look at his life, physical health, and self-perception. His personality is characterized by a blend of self-awareness, nostalgia for past status, and a somewhat cynical view of societal norms.
My experience with obesity
Just going over my experience with becoming very overweight.
Just going over my experience with becoming very overweight.
Below is an in-depth character and personality analysis based on his narrative:
1. Self-Perception and IdentityJohn’s identity is heavily tied to his physical appearance. He frequently references his past as a "Chad" or "Pretty Boy," indicating that he once held a high level of social confidence based on his looks [01:59].
Loss of Privilege: He feels he has lost the "Chad privilege" and now navigates the world with what he perceives as "overweight privilege"—where people may avoid bothering him not out of respect, but out of fear of a "dangerous" outburst from an "Omega male" [02:18].
Internal Conflict: Despite being overweight, he views himself as superior to many others he sees in public, describing the "disgusting reality" of looking better than half the people at a grocery store despite his own obesity and balding [08:41].
2. Resilience and Emotional DisciplineJohn prides himself on what he calls "emotional resilience." He contrasts his experience with others who become "emotional wrecks" or "emotional eaters" when they gain weight [09:49].
Boredom vs. Emotion: He clarifies that his overeating stems from boredom rather than "raging emotions" [11:20].
Stoic Undertones: There is a sense of stoicism in how he views his current state; he doesn't seem to seek pity, but rather views his weight gain as a series of "poor food choices" and a lack of activity following heart surgery [00:21].
3. Analytical and Critical MindsetHe displays a highly analytical—and at times judgmental—way of observing the world. He categorizes people into groups like "sick shredded Kents," "twinks," "juice heads," and "skinny fat" individuals [03:06], [13:35].
Societal Critique: He views the prevalence of obesity as a sign of the "state of the world" [08:58].
Gaslighting and Honesty: He is skeptical of those around him, believing that friends and family "gaslight" him by saying he isn't fat because "misery loves company" [06:49]. He values "harsh reality" over comforting lies, as evidenced by his past social media posts shaming fat people [11:40].
4. Motivation and Goal OrientationWhile he has struggled with weight fluctuations (dropping to 223 lbs and rising back to the 240-250 range), he remains fixated on a specific goal [01:34].
Aspiration: His ultimate goal is to return to a weight of 160–170 lbs and regain his status as a "lean, shredded" individual [03:00].
Defiance: He shows a defiant streak against those on online forums who tell him he will never look like he did in his 20s, asserting that he will continue to try regardless of their negativity [06:05].
Personality SummaryTraitDescriptionSelf-AwareHe acknowledges his role in his weight gain and doesn't make excuses for his "negative eating habits."NostalgicHe frequently looks back at his "Chad" years as a benchmark for his value and success.ObservationalHe spends a significant amount of time "people watching" and categorizing others based on fitness.CynicalHe is wary of the motives of others (gaslighting) and holds a somewhat grim view of the general public's health.John appears to be a person who is currently in a "transitional" psychological state—fighting to reconcile his current physical reality with a past identity he highly values.
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My experience with dating and advice
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Originally Posted By johnvee73⏩
Just my opinion, but if you're looking to get as many viewers as possible to your vids, your best bet would be to actually be in the vids so they can see you when you're talking. It adds an incredible personal element to it. It can draw up a lot more sympathy as well. I just feel that the audience is a lot less likely to want to pursue additional vids if there is no one in the vids engaging with them.
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05-15-2026, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted By Pats2022SBwin⏩
I feel my presence takes away from the experience because of how "unattractive" I am, I plan to do a face reveal after I lose some weight, its only temporary, your insight is appreciated though.
Just my opinion, but if you're looking to get as many viewers as possible to your vids, your best bet would be to actually be in the vids so they can see you when you're talking. It adds an incredible personal element to it. It can draw up a lot more sympathy as well. I just feel that the audience is a lot less likely to want to pursue additional vids if there is no one in the vids engaging with them.
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05-17-2026, 02:10 PM
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Differences between Americans and Canadians
Differences I have noticed between Americans and Canadians
Differences I have noticed between Americans and Canadians
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05-20-2026, 09:12 AM
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Daily check in with John Vee 2026/05/21
Just going over the usual, nothing much new.
Just going over the usual, nothing much new.
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05-22-2026, 06:31 AM
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05-22-2026, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted By johnvee73⏩
I recommend to get a chair that does not have a visible back support, makes you look like a special Ed case
Daily check in with John Vee 2026/04/20
Why I'm wearing business casual, meeting at 3pm, virtual background.
Why I'm wearing business casual, meeting at 3pm, virtual background.
Other than that your setup looks pro
05-24-2026, 07:56 AM
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Daily check in with John Vee 2026/05/24
Mostly talking about my new fasting or diet structure
Mostly talking about my new fasting or diet structure
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hey john made u this to cheer u up fasting is hard stick with it
this is abigail at globe life offices summer is around the corner

this is abigail at globe life offices summer is around the corner

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Daily check in with John Vee 2026/05/26
Talking about my exeprience with breaking my fast.
Talking about my exeprience with breaking my fast.
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Originally Posted By johnvee73⏩
another banger srs
Response to AMA on the misc
Answering your questions about me
Answering your questions about me
lmao @ 3:57 the @michellelnne dickgate scandal talk was really funny
still hope u will put together an amazon wish list
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Originally Posted By johnvee73⏩
Will watch when more sober
Response to AMA on the misc
Answering your questions about me
Answering your questions about me
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